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Transgender swimmer Lia Thomas' teammates 'uncomfortable' sharing locker room with her

Robert Mugabe

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Trans athletes could improve their cred if the chopped their bits of and returned to the ring or the pool or the wrestling mat as "women" competing against men. That would show em. Makes about as much sense.
 
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Women's change rooms are for people with female anatomy. If he still has his meat and 2 veggies he can't be in there. Also if he is still attracted to females he probably had no intentions of losing the veggies. There should be Trans Olympics like paralympics and special Olympics. Also the thong bikini has gotta go.

They also just released new policies anyway so his career may be over.

 
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Funny how the term Transphobic is misused at every opportunity to leverage an agenda, the second someone's opinion doesn't suit the transgender narrative they are branded labeled, and shamed as transphobic and not worthy of being heard or even considered.

Just as your parting sentiments conveniently show, imagine our world where differences of opinions are silenced, what a brilliant evolutionary idea.

I won’t engage with comments that are transphobic virtue signalling ,,,,,,yawn
This quote should be a Terb sticky.
Thanks for that moredale7 (y)
 
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I'm not transphobic, homophobic or any other type of phobic. I could care less how people choose to identify.

My position is I don't feel it's fair that a person grew up a male, went through puberty as a male but then one day decided they identify as a female. And now they think it's somehow fair to compete against biological females in a sport where physical size and strength is paramount to winning.

It's so far from an even playing field, it's not even funny.
 
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Somebody wrote:"why have separate locker rooms?"

When I was a student in Copenhagen, it was somewhat of a talking point that male and female students shared locker room at the Physical Education Institute at Copenhagen University.

As far as I remember the students were not converted to salt pillars.
 

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... An SP I used to chat with told me a story of a guy would used her services to be degraded and humiliated. He would wear a diaper…. Blah blah blah, you get the drift. One session, he had a heart attack, while in a diaper, and 9/11 needed to called, and that’s how he was taken to the hospital.

Turns out he faked the heart attack because the humiliation of the 9/11 responders, and trip to the hospital in the diaper was exhilarating...

TERB thread: Man Who Posed as "Special Needs" to Get adult diaper Changed by women as a fetish kink now faces New Charges
 

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This guy (yes, I said guy) isn't a transexual.

He's male and he knows he can't compete against other male athletes and win, so he's taken the "I am a transwoman" route. I would call him a "shemale". Sorry, I know that's politically incorrect, but it describes him much better than a male to female transexual.

Now if on the other hand he wanted to have the necessary surgeries (breast implants, genital removal and reconstruction to female genitals, etc.) then I would be more open to calling him a woman. But he will not do that because he knows all he has to do is stop taking his testosterone suppressing drugs and he will revert back to being his old self. If he wants to be a trans woman, then he needs to commit to the program.

Until then, he's just a drag queen.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if trans start showing up in pro tennis, a big money sport.

Back in the day, prize money was divvy up based on revenue generated. Since the men's draw generated more revenue, the men's prize money was a larger pot.

Billie Jean King complained "NOT FAIR", all revenue generated should go into one pot and then split equally between the men and the women.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if trans start showing up in pro tennis, a big money sport.

Back in the day, prize money was divvy up based on revenue generated. Since the men's draw generated more revenue, the men's prize money was a larger pot.

Billie Jean King complained "NOT FAIR", all revenue generated should go into one pot and then split equally between the men and the women.
Actually, the women in professional tennis don't have to work as hard as the men to receive equal pay. Men's matches are three out of five sets, and women's are two out of three. Men's tennis is also much more aggressive; many points are won on service aces and forced errors resulting from the players using the whole court. Women's tennis is often volleying from the baseline, and hoping that the opponent can't return the ball over the net within the boundary lines.

I don't enjoy watching professional tennis. The referees take too much guff from prima donna players questioning judgement calls. If the refs had had the stones to discipline John McEnroe when he started that, there wouldn't be so many others emulating him. Refs blow calls sometimes, usually an equal number for each player, so they even out. An emotionally mature person accepts the decision of the appointed arbitrator, whether or not they agree with the decision.
 
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This guy (yes, I said guy) isn't a transexual.

He's male and he knows he can't compete against other male athletes and win, so he's taken the "I am a transwoman" route. I would call him a "shemale". Sorry, I know that's politically incorrect, but it describes him much better than a male to female transexual.

Now if on the other hand he wanted to have the necessary surgeries (breast implants, genital removal and reconstruction to female genitals, etc.) then I would be more open to calling him a woman. But will not do that because he knows all he has to do is stop taking his testosterone suppressing drugs and he will revert back to being his old self. If he wants to be a trans woman, then he needs to commit to the program.

Until then, he's just a drag queen.
Political Correctness Is...

Having to play along with a gay man in drag's charade that he's actually a woman.

Except Lia is not gay. This is closer to Andy Kaufman's intergender wrestling.
 

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All too often, the word 'discrimination' is replaced by 'criticism'.

I saw a piece on 60 Minutes many years ago about 'gender reassignment' of infants. Back in the day, if a male child was born with congenitally malformed genitals, it was common practice for some pediatricians to remove the child's externals, and 'sculpt' a functional vagina instead, and the child was to be raised as a girl, very similar to the procedure used following the botched circumcision which turned Bruce into Brenda. The teenagers interviewed for the segment were clearly boys in all aspects, other than the gender printed on their birth certificates, and they were angry about the life-altering decision someone had made on their behalf.
 

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To me transphobia is referring to Lia as a man. I welcome discussions (and disagreements!) if someone can manage to not be a twerp about it. Not agreeing with me isn’t transphobia. I frankly welcome discussions and as an ex competitive swimmer have a personal interest in how the introduction of non cis athletes play out!

Cis women still own the sport, and podium placements have very little trans athletes. I find it’s easy to use someone who isn’t considered “passing” as an example to argue against trans athletes competing in their respective category. I never see anyone hold issue with trans men (biologically female) athletes competing in the mens category because they have a deemed disadvatage.

I truly do not believe people would fake being trans and face this level of scrutiny, and extensive testing and investigations to earn the chance at the podium. As iiiiif their competition doesnt execute their own investigations to remove them from competing??

No female professional athlete wakes up and says oh gosh darn those trans people make my dreams pointless. I will admit I know nothing of Lia’s competition history though— my point is she has the right to compete as a woman.

Re: the locker room, i do not doubt that it’s a shock, undoubtedly everyones first encounter, and this will be navigated over time.

In the end i’m genuinely interested in a mature discussion that doesnt take the easy way out pandering to disagreeing with me being “politically correct”. I’m reading eagerly and learning all the same as you grinches! 🤝
To me transphobia is referring to Lia as a man. I welcome discussions (and disagreements!) if someone can manage to not be a twerp about it. Not agreeing with me isn’t transphobia. I frankly welcome discussions and as an ex competitive swimmer have a personal interest in how the introduction of non cis athletes play out!

Cis women still own the sport, and podium placements have very little trans athletes. I find it’s easy to use someone who isn’t considered “passing” as an example to argue against trans athletes competing in their respective category. I never see anyone hold issue with trans men (biologically female) athletes competing in the mens category because they have a deemed disadvatage.

I truly do not believe people would fake being trans and face this level of scrutiny, and extensive testing and investigations to earn the chance at the podium. As iiiiif their competition doesnt execute their own investigations to remove them from competing??

No female professional athlete wakes up and says oh gosh darn those trans people make my dreams pointless. I will admit I know nothing of Lia’s competition history though— my point is she has the right to compete as a woman.

Re: the locker room, i do not doubt that it’s a shock, undoubtedly everyones first encounter, and this will be navigated over time.

In the end i’m genuinely interested in a mature discussion that doesnt take the easy way out pandering to disagreeing with me being “politically correct”. I’m reading eagerly and learning all the same as you grinches! 🤝
I know this post may upset some and I won’t engage with comments that are transphobic.

Looks like you're transhypocrite, snatching the gold in the virtue signaling contradict yourself Olympics.

When are you fighting MIke Tyson?


Bloviated nonsense
 
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Back in the day, prize money was divvy up based on revenue generated. Since the men's draw generated more revenue, the men's prize money was a larger pot.

Billie Jean King complained "NOT FAIR", all revenue generated should go into one pot and then split equally between the men and the women.
Ummm, relevance to trans athletes?

I wouldn't be surprised if trans start showing up in pro tennis, a big money sport.
I wouldn't be either since tennis was possibly the very 1st sport in which this issue of trans players came up (I'm guessing mid-70's) and was highly publicized. I believe that the person involved was a doctor.

I'm not sure if you've heard of wikipedia, but there's a wealth of info there if you want to research it. If you find something maybe you could post the link for us.
 
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