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I have never agreed with the catchall term 'BBW' being used to describe any and all women size 16 or larger, regardless of their height, body shape or facial appearance. Many plus-sized women can legitimately be described as beautiful by an impartial critic; many more than that do not deserve the first B.

The physical state of being larger than average, in and of itself, does not make a woman beautiful. Without recent accurate photographs, many men will err on the side of caution; if a woman describes herself as a BBW, the mental picture is often 'morbidly obese'.

Many fit and attractive young women whose natural body shape is not thin develop eating disorders because they don't want to be included in the same group as the huge couch potatoes. While the public intent of the 'two tier' ambiguous group definitions, ('thin' and 'big beautiful woman'), is to boost the self esteem of the obese and facially unremarkable by including them in a group to which they don't rightfully belong, all too often the 'bbw' tag just serves to confer elite status upon the thin, not all of whom are beautiful, in the opinions of many.

Women who are considered beautiful by others usually do not use that term to describe themselves.
 

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Started in this industry at 100 pounds

I am now 160 ? Still just as busy if not busier independent, agency, online, spa you name it. Anywhere I go money and clients flow to me regardless of my weight or size.

Ironically enough I had someone complain I was losing too much weight recently.
My weight changes from time to time
And I still have regulars from when I was considered tiny. I am chubby and booked often including with elite agency

Do what you want that with that information
 
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I am curious why do so few agencies and spas hire BBW, I only know of two agencies that hire them, discreet dolls and sassy angels. Is it due to the agency finding BBW not attractive, or is it that most agencies think clients do not want to pay for a BBW.
Can't speak for agencies, but their are plenty of spas with bigger women working. Trust me, I've had my share. :cool:

Unfortunately, this is a very discriminating industry on both sides.
 
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For the record, I DON'T have a small penis, except when it's flaccid. I'm 6'2" tall, I can palm a basketball, and I wear size 14 shoes. My junk is proportional with my over size. I'm not packing 'Uncle Milty' meat, but I'm not Jude Law, either. I've never felt inadequate standing in a communal shower, even if the water was cold.

This thread is about why plus-sized women are under represented in Agencies. The usual suspects always have multiple posts in these types of threads: plus-sized Indy providers who assume that everything said is specifically aimed personally at themselves. Whenever anyone does a physical job professionally, some criticism of their performance and/or fitness is inevitable. While some of the ladies reading might not agree with the explanations and opinions I'm expressing, they are consistent with the way many, if not most, guys think.
 
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However in Italy she was being openly harassed,(by today's standards). Italians couldn't get enough of her large build. They were openly approaching her on the street. She was flattered. Go figure.
Stephen Hawkings professed an inability to figure out women, who are we???
 
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You girls kind of derailed this whole thread because you took it very personally.

The topic was: why is there very few BBW in agencies.

The answer is simple: not enough demand.

If I was running a Baskin Robins or Dairy Queen, I wouldn't stock up on Dill Mango, Avocado or other exotic flavors. Sure someone will buy now and then, but I'd rather stock up on vanilla and chocolate.
I don’t see “us girls” taking it too seriously. I see, myself at least, already stating what you just said like 4/5 posts in.

A thread often changes direction when it is a silly and obvious question and answer. I think that is what has happened here.
 
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When I joined the agency I was 115 pounds. I was making a killing in money every shift. I burned out and I lived off my savings for a few years during this time I gained 55 pounds of not being active enough. So I called the agency and she said ok you can come back to work they put my picture at the bottom of the website id only get calls at 3am and they knew id do them because I needed cash bad again. I Had a hormonal issue and my weight was not coming off a few clients made me feel good and said they loved my body. Even I was shocked because of the stigma I was facing with 50 other ladies. So one guy said you should go independent and I thought nah I dont want to go on on my own.So I called the manager and I said look your not giving me enough work and she was quiet. I said is it ok if I do an ad on back page for me but ill put my calls through the agency she says ok. I had no idea how this would turn out. Then my phone started blowing up every hour and I couldn't keep up that the agency had to send different girls to some calls I couldn't do. so that week I moved up a row on the site then I started getting regulars and more new calls constantly the ladies thought I was fat and I learned that my body type was so thick and in demand when im doing solo ads. So I kept doing ads but this time I had the agency answer my calls for me I even made my personal website . in 1 year and a half I went to the 1 one spot for a few weeks then I stayed constant in number 2 spot for many years I was always I demand even in dry spells and then the agency started hiring bbw ladies like it was going out of style . I had no idea that a chubby woman in her 30s would land number 2 spot over 20 year olds with athletic bodies. So it taught me something that its ok to have some extra curves and I started embracing my weight ....not only was I one of the oldest but the fattest of the 50 ladies. So then I thought wow all these people who told me im not miserable not having a spinner body dont know what there talking about .Then I went indy and raised my rates I was now making more than the hottest 20 year old at agency and it was mind boggling. For years I suffered with constant diets and yo yp diets lose gain lose gain and then I just said fuck it im staying curvy plus getting older its harder to lose.i had better clients then I did when I was a toothpick which I dont know why that is. Guys wanted dinner dates and more conversation and the funniest thing of it all is they loved feeding me lunch dinner dessert snacks id joke and say im on a diet they'd say just have a nice dinner with me . I realized that my body type was the average Canadian woman's body type which is over weight and for some reason guys felt very comfy with my look of imperfections. it must be true cause look at all the married men that say there wife gained weight yet they never leave her. lol anyway thought id share my story of being a bbw at an agency I kicked ass in money as bbw.
 
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Post #1 from Ask bobistheowl! on another board:

Q: Hey bob! I was reading an Escort's ad, and she didn't give her measurements, but she said she's "size 16". How big is that? - Randy, Vaughn

A: An Escort's advertised dress size is the size she plans to be at the end of Dieting Season, (January 2 until the Thursday before May 2-4 weekend, 'because it doesn't matter in the winter'), minus 2, so she would be a size 18 during Daylight Savings Time, and a size 20 when we're on Standard time.

Q: So she's fat?

A: Kinda, yeah. Sure.

Q: So how big is a real size 16?

A: I don't know. They won't tell us. Book with another Escort who claims to be a size 14 next summer, or one who claims to be size twelve between Christmas and New Years, and let the rest of us know.
 
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Society has never and never will accept fat as sexy. They do now because it sounds good. Many Johns are probably self conscious and feel more comfortable with someone who looks like they do.

Nobody wants to be at the club with a fat chick, and vice versa. I think guys are more aware of their weight and get tired of looking and feeling like a slob. I knew a guy who saw himself in a photo and he was mortified, so he lost mega pounds.

With women they are told just be you, this is who you are, so they accept it more easily.
 
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onomatopoeia

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Society has never and never will accept fat as sexy. They do now because it sounds good. Many Johns are probably self conscious and feel more comfortable with someone who looks like they do.

Nobody wants to be at the club with a fat chick, and vice versa.
Definitely not true. Cave men porn all looks like the Venus of Willendorf:

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And large women were the major sex symbols after World War II, and in the 1950's. Anytime society's emphasis is on fertility rather than recreational sex, the ideal body type for a woman, as defined by media, is larger.
 

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Fame and money makith the ugliest dude attractive. Everyone should know that by know. If he was just some guy working at the car wash he would be getting laid as much as my fat ass.
Same thing with those rockers with faces that could kill an Ogre but get a string of girls.
 
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I don't understand how someone turned this into a body shaming issue. When I'm paying ~$250 to $300 an hour, I get to decide what is attractive to me. In my case, that's height/weight proportionate to curvy, non-smoker, not a drug user, typically not Canadian born, exotic looking, busty and no tattoos. That is my type.

I'm not physically attracted to overweight or fat women, nor super slim/spinner types. Thankfully there is someone for everyone and so much diversity in the GTA.
 
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Wrong. There are multiple plus size model on the cover of the magazine. Some plus size model are now supermodel too like Naomie or Tyra. Meet one of them, Ashley Graham.

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Like Ashley, plus size model and people my size are working out and have zero health problem associated with their weight.

I love the wave of body positism that we have rn in the fashion industry and the escort industry.

You missed it.
Honestly, in the context of hiring an escort and paying for sex, if Ashley Graham (as pictured above) was listed on an agency website I'm not sure how many bookings she'd actually get compared with other equally facially attractive girls of smaller size.
 

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Honestly, in the context of hiring an escort and paying for sex, if Ashley Graham (as pictured above) was listed on an agency website I'm not sure how many bookings she'd actually get compared with other equally facially attractive girls of smaller size.
It was to answer the statement that big girls doesn't do the cover of the magazine.

Now you guys might think it's completly insane but some men really like curvy women and not the opposite. They would not even bother for a skinny girl. Agency do discriminate.

I worked for 3 massage parlor and I was attacked daily with stuff like " it's impossible that you make that much money you must be overly "cochonne" ". Ect. They were sending me mystery client too. Yet I was following the same rules.

Being curvy and successful is not a myth and never has been. Some here needs to get with the program.

 
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