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Some students sound like they might be brain dead rich kids, a privileged class, who through connections may go on to be captains of industry or politicians which explains a lot.
 

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Some of these kids are so stupid I’m sure the parents paid money, bribed somebody, or used their connections to get them accepted there.
 

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You think these guys are stupid, try talking to someone doing a graduated degree in gender studies at UoT……
What are they on about??
 

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Genie Bouchard is Mt Royal blue blood, her tennis career is over. This clip explains a lot...Petra Kvitova (to name one) went in for a smooch.

 
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Why are you people obsessed with gender studies, or any other sound bite you hear from Tucker?
Honestly? Because career wise it either leads to a few who can get academic jobs, a few who can get government jobs, a few who can get private sector consulting jobs, and the majority nothing.

And in all cases the sole purpose of the position is to tell people what they are doing wrong, that they are bad people, and to create divisions in the sexes. I have yet to meet a single person(and I've met my share) in the "field" that wasn't self-righteous, arrogant, dismissive, and constantly looking to point out any transgression from their orthodoxy.

They are more atkin to an inquisitor than people looking to expand human rights.
 

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Honestly? Because career wise it either leads to a few who can get academic jobs, a few who can get government jobs, a few who can get private sector consulting jobs, and the majority nothing.

And in all cases the sole purpose of the position is to tell people what they are doing wrong, that they are bad people, and to create divisions in the sexes. I have yet to meet a single person(and I've met my share) in the "field" that wasn't self-righteous, arrogant, dismissive, and constantly looking to point out any transgression from their orthodoxy.

They are more atkin to an inquisitor than people looking to expand human rights.
I have not taken a Gender Studies class, and I highly doubt that you have. So I doubt you know what they actually teach.

It's mostly white men bitching about it.
 
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Many young people in university think they will achieve a high level of greatness in their field. Knowing what is taught is not enough, it is innovation that sets one student apart from the rest.

Years ago I knew a guy that was accepted into the NHL, he thought he was on his way to great stardom and riches. He was out in a few years. Years later I am at a car dealership buying a car, the salesman tries to impress me by telling me he was in the NHL. He mentions he at that time played hockey in the old timers league and mentions a couple of big stars. I ask him about my old schoolmate and he told me that he was now managing his father in-laws store. To compare this situation with the young kids in university, some will achieve greatness and some will be mediocre in their endeavors.
 

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I have not taken a Gender Studies class, and I highly doubt that you have. So I doubt you know what they actually teach.

It's mostly white men bitching about it.
I didn't say I took any. One of my social circles crosses over into that realm. I have had the pleasure at parties to be in on the conversations. They are at times eye rolling.

The intentions start out as positive. But between the professors who brook no dissent from their writings to the hardcore seeking to make sure every damn man knows how bad they are the students tow a very volatile line of reasoning.

In my younger days it resulted in bemusement and of course hinted mockery while I hit on them fun and reaction. Later on patience(no need to be a bad sort at a party) and avoidance of the worst ones.

I perfectly fine with equality of the sexes. It's why I get invited in the first place. You think they would tolerate a misogynist? But there is hate filled core to the teachings. To deny that is not to have been listening.
 
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I didn't say I took any. One of my social circles crosses over into that realm. I have had the pleasure at parties to be in on the conversations. They are at times eye rolling.

The intentions start out as positive. But between the professors who brook no dissent from their writings to the hardcore seeking to make sure every damn man knows how bad they are the students tow a very volatile line of reasoning.

In my younger days it resulted in bemusement and of course hinted mockery while I hit on them fun and reaction. Later on patience(no need to be a bad sort at a party) and avoidance of the worst ones.

I perfectly fine with equality of the sexes. It's why I get invited in the first place. You think they would tolerate a misogynist? But there is hate filled core to the teachings. To deny that is not to have been listening.
So you haven't taken a course, have you read any material taught in these courses? Or by prominent feminists?
 

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So you haven't taken a course, have you read any material taught in these courses? Or by prominent feminists?
I was on the recieving end of a some lectures both at social gatherings and a few panel discussions I attended. At times they seem to have their own language. So really the purpose isn't to educate the general public. But to sound academic. I can tell the difference.

It would be one thing if it was say a part of a greater curriculum. Probably law school, business school, engineering for a semester. Places where teaching equity would be beneficial and carry over into greater society. But these courses tend to be echo chambers for a doctrine based education not subject to debate. So serve little purpose but regurgitation of a few professors and other academics writings.

And other than the above examples as a major lead nowhere in a career. But cost thousands anyway.

Bets many private sector employers(other than a few multinationals trying to look good) would toss redumes out with this as a major, knowing HR would be inundated with complaints.
 

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I was on the recieving end of a some lectures both at social gatherings and a few panel discussions I attended. At times they seem to have their own language. So really the purpose isn't to educate the general public. But to sound academic. I can tell the difference.

It would be one thing if it was say a part of a greater curriculum. Probably law school, business school, engineering for a semester. Places where teaching equity would be beneficial and carry over into greater society. But these courses tend to be echo chambers for a doctrine based education not subject to debate. So serve little purpose but regurgitation of a few professors and other academics writings.

And other than the above examples as a major lead nowhere in a career. But cost thousands anyway.

Bets many private sector employers(other than a few multinationals trying to look good) would toss redumes out with this as a major, knowing HR would be inundated with complaints.
That answer tells me all I need to know.
 
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That answer tells me all I need to know.
Yup. I have some common sense about it, and its purpose. And your dismissal of a fair take on it says all I need to know as well. Along with your obsessive compulsive thread starting.

You are very good at regurgitation of others opinions, but lack some critical thinking skills to make them your own. That's may define you in some circles as educated, but it doesn't make you any smarter than someone who can memorize multiplication tables.

True philosophical discussion allows for dissent.
 
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Yup. I have some common sense about it, and its purpose. And your dismissal of a fair take on it says all I need to know as well. Along with your obsessive compulsive thread starting.

You are very good at regurgitation of others opinions, but lack some critical thinking skills to make them your own. That's may define you in some circles as educated, but it doesn't make you any smarter than someone who can memorize multiplication tables.

True philosophical discussion allows for dissent.
You pretty much admitted that you don't know what you were talking about. You do realize that, right?
 
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You pretty much admitted that you don't know what you were talking about. You do realize that, right?
No I didn't. Far from it. You just are incapable of outside the box thinking. Or you would actually be able to come up with threads that didn't require another persons opinion. You think just bevause someone wrote it on the internet it must be true. And you think just because a tenured professor said it must be true.

The point of a university education is to encourage critical thinking. To spark discussion, opposition and argument. Especially in philosophy. From every interaction I had with gender studies studrnts and teachers its quite the opposite.
 
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No I didn't. Far from it. You just are incapable of outside the box thinking. Or you would actually be able to come up with threads that didn't require another persons opinion. You think just bevause someone wrote it on the internet it must be true. And you think just because a tenured professor said it must be true.

The point of a university education is to encourage critical thinking. To spark discussion, opposition and argument. Especially in philosophy. From every interaction I had with gender studies studrnts and teachers its quite the opposite.
You're just talking about people who you've met.

You don't know any of the material, meaning your assumptions about the subject are meaningless.
 
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