Is Joe Biden after 10 months: Worst president ever?

[Frankfooter]

What does this article have to with inflation? If I criticize you for a non sequitur, some partisans here jump in to defend you like we're on some team wearing uniforms.

I was going to wait for someone else on the team to reply, but they said they're all busy.
So, inflation is the bad news story across the right wing echo chamber while job growth is the good news story elsewhere.
Which means that inflation, which is a global problem, may not be as big an issue when the economy is taking off.

 

[WyattEarp]

Taking this at face value - because I'm having a busy day - how is this the fault of a president who has been in office less than 1 year?

I think I have been consistent in saying that this is currently a Federal Reserve issue. They will have to sort out all the money printing. There's no point in discussing the impact of Build Back Better on inflation unless it gets raised again.

I tend to think supply chain issues will sort themselves out some time this year. This will help alleviate inflationary pressure. Perhaps not soon enough for the Democrats' prospects in the midterms fairly or unfairly. If inflation persists into the last two years of the Biden term, then Republican politicians and media critics can analyze which policies exacerbated the problem.

 

[WyattEarp]

I was going to wait for someone else on the team to reply, but they said they're all busy.
So, inflation is the bad news story across the right wing echo chamber while job growth is the good news story elsewhere.
Which means that inflation, which is a global problem, may not be as big an issue when the economy is taking off.

The Federal Reserve says inflation is a problem. They are preparing for interest rate hikes. Rate hikes can possibly trigger a recession.

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I guess I am just getting used to the idea that when you don't have anything to add or respond to my comments, you will respond with a non sequiter.

 

[WyattEarp]

The limited government argument is a red herring and has nothing at all to do with this issue. This nis an issue of public safety which most people would agree is part of the function of government. Like police and the army and speed limits etc. I don't care if you want to kill yourself but don't take me and other with you and do not nuke my access to hospitals and health care more difficult and expansive because they are too busy looking after you and treating you for something which is largely avoidable. Not really that complicated.

Funny thing, I came across this article shortly after your post. I have many friends in California who don't like the political trends in the Golden State. Several of them are self-defined Democrats. In the United States, taxes go up and regulation increases under Progressive Democrats. How would you like to wake up to this every new year?



(side note: the member danmand has criticized Conservatives for having simplistic campaign messages on lower taxes. The reality is taxes really don't go down. It's just a constant battle to maintain the level of taxes and regulation because Progressives have more and more programs that will improve the world.)

On our sister board MERB awhile back, I did a breakdown between U.S. and Canadian government spending. If you backed out healthcare spending, U.S. and Canadian government spending was very close. Since most working Americans get their health insurance through their employers, you have to adjust for this difference. Seniors, the poor and now with Obamacare more people get their health insurance through the U.S. government. Hopefully, the healthcare coverage captures everyone. If they fall through the cracks, it might likely be personal negligence.

If you think the government should be the sole payer or sole provider for healthcare, then this isn't satisfactory to you. If you think the government should set healthcare prices, this definitely isn't satisfactory to you.

 

[mandrill]

Funny thing, I came across this article.shortly after your post. I have many friends in California who don't like the political trends in the Golden State. Several of them are self-defined Democrats. In the United States, taxes go up and regulation increases under Progressive Democrats. How would you like to wake up to this every new year?

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(side note: the member danmand has criticized Conservatives for having simplistic campaign messages on lower taxes. The reality is taxes really don't go down. It's just a constant battle to maintain the level of taxes and regulation because Progressives have more and more programs that will improve the world.)

On our sister board MERB awhile back, I did a breakdown between U.S. and Canadian government spending. If you backed out healthcare spending, U.S. and Canadian government spending was very close. Since most working Americans get their health insurance through their employers, you have to adjust for this difference. Seniors, the poor and now with Obamacare more people get their health insurance through the U.S. government. Hopefully, the healthcare coverage captures everyone. If they fall through the cracks, it might likely be personal negligence.

If you think the government should be the sole payer or sole provider for healthcare, then this isn't satisfactory to you. If you think the government should set healthcare prices, this definitely isn't satisfactory to you.

Wyatt, 100's of new laws go into effect every year in every jurisdiction, if you factor in small regulatory changes. If you count every section of a reg or a statute as a separate "law", you're probably up in the 10's of thousands. That's in every jurisdiction in every country in the developed world.

And explain how the US health care system is better again. This should be fun.

And the people who don't have health care coverage through their workplace? Would these be single moms by any chance?.... I guess getting pregnant counts as "personal negligence" in Republican-land.

How about recently graduated college students who have not yet found a decent job and don't have the $$$ for health insurance?... Lotta "personal negligence" there as well?

I could go on and on with that list of "personally negligent" persons, couldn't I?

 

[Frankfooter]

The Federal Reserve says inflation is a problem. They are preparing for interest rate hikes. Rate hikes can possibly trigger a recession.

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I guess I am just getting used to the idea that when you don't have anything to add or respond to my comments, you will respond with a non sequiter.

Inflation is a global problem but its rise in the US is offset by an economy that is taking off.
When it gets so bad that reporting on all aspects of the economy is now a 'non-sequitur' to rants that are clearly just partisan rants, then there isn't much point in pretending you are here for dialogue, is there?

 

[toguy5252]

Funny thing, I came across this article shortly after your post. I have many friends in California who don't like the political trends in the Golden State. Several of them are self-defined Democrats. In the United States, taxes go up and regulation increases under Progressive Democrats. How would you like to wake up to this every new year?

View attachment 112467

(side note: the member danmand has criticized Conservatives for having simplistic campaign messages on lower taxes. The reality is taxes really don't go down. It's just a constant battle to maintain the level of taxes and regulation because Progressives have more and more programs that will improve the world.)

On our sister board MERB awhile back, I did a breakdown between U.S. and Canadian government spending. If you backed out healthcare spending, U.S. and Canadian government spending was very close. Since most working Americans get their health insurance through their employers, you have to adjust for this difference. Seniors, the poor and now with Obamacare more people get their health insurance through the U.S. government. Hopefully, the healthcare coverage captures everyone. If they fall through the cracks, it might likely be personal negligence.

If you think the government should be the sole payer or sole provider for healthcare, then this isn't satisfactory to you. If you think the government should set healthcare prices, this definitely isn't satisfactory to you.

What in the world does any of that have to do with anything which was in the original post or my response? I will give you a hint. nothing other than you attempting to divert.

 

[jcpro]

 

[dirtydaveiii]

What do you have like 100 posts on this thread? Does.biden invade you every thought?

 

[Frankfooter]

What do you have like 100 posts on this thread? Does.biden invade you every thought?

Biden Derangement Syndrome.

 

[jcpro]

What do you have like 100 posts on this thread? Does.biden invade you every thought?

Can't wipe his ass, doesn't know what year it is, wants to vaccinate busses.... I love it.

 

[WyattEarp]

What in the world does any of that have to do with anything which was in the original post or my response? I will give you a hint. nothing other than you attempting to divert.

I'll have to disagree. I believe your first sentence in your post that started my response in this thread was:

toguy5252: "What used to be the GOP has abandoned any pretense that they have any interest in governing."

I simply gave you an answer on how U.S. Republicans view government and their bias against an expanding role for the government. You have millions of Canadians who have similar views of government. It existed before the "stable genius" and it will exist long after his presence in U.S. politics. Then Progressives will have to find another boogeyman to demonize.

I'm not sure what has happened to the political forum, but I have detected a more brazen and aggressive view here. It's not enough to disagree with someone, but the progressives here seem intent on gaslighting those who don't see the world exactly like them and don't use their precise political language.

 

[danmand]

I'm not sure what has happened to the political forum, but I have detected a more brazen and rigid view of politics. It's not enough to disagree with someone, but the progressives here seem intent on gaslighting those who don't see the world exactly like them and don't use their precise political language.

And you have only noticed that from "progressives"?

 

[WyattEarp]

Inflation is a global problem but its rise in the US is offset by an economy that is taking off.
When it gets so bad that reporting on all aspects of the economy is now a 'non-sequitur' to rants that are clearly just partisan rants, then there isn't much point in pretending you are here for dialogue, is there?

Can you cite a post of mine where I am making partisan rants about inflation or even ranting against the Biden Administration? I think I just offer a different point of view of events. Perhaps I don't cheerlead for the Biden Administration, but that's really about it.

 

[toguy5252]

I'll have to disagree. I believe your first sentence in your post that started my response in this thread was:

toguy5252: "What used to be the GOP has abandoned any pretense that they have any interest in governing."

I simply gave you an answer on how U.S. Republicans view government and their bias against an expanding role for the government. You have millions of Canadians who have similar views of government. It existed before the "stable genius" and it will exist long after his presence in U.S. politics. Then Progressives will have to find another boogeyman to demonize.

I'm not sure what has happened to the political forum, but I have detected a more brazen and aggressive view here. It's not enough to disagree with someone, but the progressives here seem intent on gaslighting those who don't see the world exactly like them and don't use their precise political language.

I agree that the quality and civility of the discourse among some members has deteriorated but i think that it is often difficult to maintain one's civility when the posts become silly and non-responsive. although you have tried tp justify your earlier post which was clearly non-responsive it really does nothing of the sort. just sayin.

Although you have tried to

 

[WyattEarp]

And you have only noticed that from "progressives"?

I think Conservatives here generally just offer differing opinions and criticize progressive views. The posts get absurd when Progressive members don't want to have a discussion and simply try to flame anyone who has a conservative leaning.

When I challenge Frank, I might cite his post as a non-sequiter. However if you follow my recent exchange with Frank, he seems to be making an argument with someone who blames the Biden Administration for currently high global inflation. I'm not sure who that member is.

 

[danmand]

I think Conservatives here generally just offer differing opinions and criticize progressive views.

Try to read the posts in this thread. I will be polite and not mention names.

 

[Butler1000]

Funny thing, I came across this article shortly after your post. I have many friends in California who don't like the political trends in the Golden State. Several of them are self-defined Democrats. In the United States, taxes go up and regulation increases under Progressive Democrats. How would you like to wake up to this every new year?

View attachment 112467

(side note: the member danmand has criticized Conservatives for having simplistic campaign messages on lower taxes. The reality is taxes really don't go down. It's just a constant battle to maintain the level of taxes and regulation because Progressives have more and more programs that will improve the world.)

On our sister board MERB awhile back, I did a breakdown between U.S. and Canadian government spending. If you backed out healthcare spending, U.S. and Canadian government spending was very close. Since most working Americans get their health insurance through their employers, you have to adjust for this difference. Seniors, the poor and now with Obamacare more people get their health insurance through the U.S. government. Hopefully, the healthcare coverage captures everyone. If they fall through the cracks, it might likely be personal negligence.

If you think the government should be the sole payer or sole provider for healthcare, then this isn't satisfactory to you. If you think the government should set healthcare prices, this definitely isn't satisfactory to you.

The simple choice to make is this.

Do you consider Healthcare to be a human right or a commodity?

If the former then Universal. If the latter then the American system.

But by choosing the latter you are clearly stating that money is more important than people. And that you as a person are fine with wealthier people having convenience and access and poorer people possibly dying because they can't afford treatment.

 

[Frankfooter]

Can't wipe his ass, doesn't know what year it is, wants to vaccinate busses.... I love it.

Yes, Desantis is losing it.

 

[Frankfooter]

When I challenge Frank, I might cite his post as a non-sequiter. However if you follow my recent exchange with Frank, he seems to be making an argument with someone who blames the Biden Administration for currently high global inflation. I'm not sure who that member is.

Yes, you jumped into a discussion between jcpro and I and then called it a non-sequitur when I carried on with the discussion you interrupted.
As if discussing economic performance was only about inflation and not any other economic metric like say, jobs.