2020-21 Canadiens Thread
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That is not a system of any moniker. Every team wants to find players who excel in goal, defense and offense. You try to put together the best roster you can. A "Montreal system"? That truly is funny if you think that it is a system unique to Montreal or anyone. Like I said you made this whole Montreal system up. There is no such thing.
BTW, is almost 30 years of no Stanley cups "recent"? In 1998 people were already mocking the Leafs.
Not one Leaf fan has said anything remotely close to that.
"Cautious optimism". "But the playoffs are different." "Who knows what will happen." "They could start losing tomorrow." "They're playing better.....for now."
All comments about the Leafs on winning streaks, playing a different style than previous years, holding on to leads, etc. are all tempered with quotes from the line above. Not a single fan here has posted anything remotely close to planning a parade. Find us some quotes that intimate that. Where do you get this hyperbolic interpretation from? Oh! I forgot. You drink the Habs kool-aid. It disrupts your sense of reality and comprehension.
There's a huge task ahead facing Jeff Gorton and the new yet to be announced new GM. I hope they follow the traditional Montreal model/system.
1) Find a new star goalie like Roy or Price.
2) Find a new star defenseman or two like Robinson and Savard.
3) Find a star centre. I think Suzuki is a good 2nd (not 1st) line centre.
4) Find a couple of Selke type forwards like Gainey and Carbonneau.
A tall order but it has been done before.
Canadiens will rely on front-office tandem led by Jeff Gorton (msn.com)
1) Find a new star goalie like Roy or Price.
2) Find a new star defenseman or two like Robinson and Savard.
3) Find a star centre. I think Suzuki is a good 2nd (not 1st) line centre.
4) Find a couple of Selke type forwards like Gainey and Carbonneau.
A tall order but it has been done before.
Canadiens will rely on front-office tandem led by Jeff Gorton (msn.com)
Yes and no. The current Leaf team for example is built from the forwards back to defense and then goal.
For as long as I remember the Montreal system/model/template has always been start with the goalie, then defense and then forwards. They always try to get forwards who play a "200 feet" game and one or two Selke types.
BTW: In the last 47 years, 3 Montreal goalies stand out.
Price (12 years)
Roy (10 years)
Dryden (8 years)
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They need you as GM. The last time they had a GM that used that formula was 1986. (In 1993 Roy single-handedly stole the Cup. They were an extremely mediocre team.)
Question for you: Why have they not used that simple system for the last 35 years? If you know how it works why don't they?
You are way overstating that Montreal Canadiens should be given credit for it...
You forgot Jacques Plante and Bill Durnan...they didn’t build teams around Ken Dryden, they were “The Flying Frenchman”, Guy Lafleur and the offence, Dryden might have been the weakest part of the team.
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There were five future Hall of Famers on the 1985-86 team. The template/model/system is fairly simple, the really hard part is to find the right players.
After the 1988-89 season, Gainey retired and Robinson left for L.A.
After the 1989-90 season, Chris Chelios left.
After the 1993-94 season, Guy Carbonneau left.
Half-way through the 1995-96 Patrick Roy left.
In those 7 years the Habs lost 5 Hall of Famers. That is hard to replace.
Carey Price arrived in 2007-8 and there has been some playoff successes, including the Stanley Cup Finals in 2021 but no Cup.
After the 1988-89 season, Gainey retired and Robinson left for L.A.
After the 1989-90 season, Chris Chelios left.
After the 1993-94 season, Guy Carbonneau left.
Half-way through the 1995-96 Patrick Roy left.
In those 7 years the Habs lost 5 Hall of Famers. That is hard to replace.
Carey Price arrived in 2007-8 and there has been some playoff successes, including the Stanley Cup Finals in 2021 but no Cup.
Gainey and Carbonneau Hall of Famers eh...Robinson was 37 and a long way from his prime, not that hard to replace.
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It was strength down centre not middle, and it had nothing to do with defence and goalies...it was the Jean Beliveau story.
In our hot stove league we always talked about "strength down the middle", goalie, defense and forwards.Strength down centre: The Jean Béliveau story
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It was strength down centre not middle, and it had nothing to do with defence and goalies...it was the Jean Beliveau story.
He is actually a Montreal boy (I think Verdun). Spent years toiling for the then hapless Rangers before joining the Habs. I think it was his years with the Habs that got him into the HOF.
