Kyle Rittenhouse speaks to Tucker Carlson in first TV interview

[mandrill]

Kyle Rittenhouse, American Vigilante

After he killed two people in Kenosha, opportunists turned his case into a polarizing spectacle.

www.newyorker.com

Good article

Much recommended. The best article I've read so far.

 

[redshank]

There was no violence or killings by those individuals. If there was please explain!!

How about this darling Hero of the Alt Right Wingers:

So I guess if someone doesn't kill 2 people then Blackface is fine. JT will be thrilled to hear that

A jury found Rittenhouse innocent

The fight is stupid teenage stuff where Rittenhouse was wrongly defending his sister during a fight between 2 girls. The fact a grown man is making this an issue is laughable

 

[mandrill]

He took the stand and spoke before a judge and jury while being grilled by a federal prosecutor. And won.

Didn't have to do much. The videos acquitted him just fine.

A trial isn't a dick-swinging duel. It's about the jury finding the truth. All they had to do is watch the videos. It was all there. KR just had to take the stand and explain what happened in the videos and emphasize that he was scared. It was an easy, inevitable trial to win.

 

[mandrill]

The world nowadays

This is a problem

These aren't

So what's up, Shanky. You upset the "world" makes giving the white power salute a problem?

I also think the "world" makes Justin wearing blackface a problem btw. Although 20 years ago, it would have been dumb and edgy (in a bad way) and not clearly over the line. Justin keeps getting elected anyway because most people don't want a CPC government. I don't think many voters like the blackface routine.

But why do you think it's wrong to stigmatize the White Power salute?

 

[bver_hunter]

So if I decide to walk around with a gun during a riot, and someone who is unarmed hits me with a skateboard, I can kill them?

Deadly force is only supposed to be used when you are in fear for your life, not an asskicking. Kyle was afraid of a buttkicking or a black eye.

He was being pursued AFTER he was witnessed murdering someone.

Thank god not everyone in the riot was armed, because everyone would feel threatened at some point and everyone would be dead.

I thought the defence he used was only allowed if you are not already in the comission of a crime? Which he was.

No kid should be walking around with a gun, especially an assault rifle, during a riot.

I think the ruling in this case is going to cause a shitstorm of problems for the US now. It has set a precedent, a bad one.

Absolutely true as the USA is now the laughing stock of the earth with such Constitution Laws being interpreted in different ways, depending upon the State that the trials occur. Unprecedented to see a Judge pick on the Prosecutor in the manner in which this Judge overruled him. At that stage many experts realized that the case was done and dusted.
Now it would have been illegal for KR to carry such a weapon in the State of his residence but it was legal in Kenosha. Truly after he killed his first victim, and if these protesters wanted KR dead the guy with the skateboard could have shot him while chasing him as he had a gun in his possession. Instead he clearly wanted to arrest KR and hitting him timidly with the skateboard and then pointing the gun was part of that arrest. But the manner in which it was interpreted in Court of course got the jury to side with KR in this manner, especially with the crocodile tears and that staged sobbing in Court.

 

[mandrill]

So I guess if someone doesn't kill 2 people then Blackface is fine. JT will be thrilled to hear that
A jury found Rittenhouse innocent
The fight is stupid teenage stuff where Rittenhouse was wrongly defending his sister during a fight between 2 girls. The fact a grown man is making this an issue is laughable

The relevance is that Rittenhouse isn't the All American hero many make him out to be. The vid of KR beating up a girl was excluded from the trial because it's not relevant to the trial.

IDK, Shanky. Is it a contest between killing two people OR wearing blackface? Where are you getting that, bud? If that's the choice, I'd go with the blackface. No one ever killed anyone by wearing blackface. But I've already commented on that in my post above.

 

[bver_hunter]

Here our hero gives another interview.

He says he has no interest in politics and will not accept any internship that has been offered to him. Said he doesn't want to be used for a cause. He has enrolled at Arizona State where he hopes to take nursing.

Also says he fired his past lawyers because of their Qanon Beliefs and election fraud statements. He calls them insane.

Goes on to state that his formers attorneys set up the meeting with the proud boys in the bar. He didn't even know what the ''okay'' symbol signified at the time. He was told at the time that the guys in the bar were going to help him with his security. Said when he found out who they were he didn't want anything to do with them.

Says if he could go back he would have stayed home that night.

He thinks this case had nothing to do with race and everything to do with self defense.

He believes everybody has the right to peacefully protest for change. On Tucker Carlson he supported BLM.

He has retained civil attorneys to handle any potential lawsuits he might have going forward.

Man he is composed. I like at the end where he says he learned he's a lot stronger than he thought......

Only you would buy such an excuse after he clearly displayed that "Okay" signal. There were different excuses for it then.
No way his actions were about "supporting" BLM. Wonder why they do not bring up the time that he punched a girl several times on the street? Well because he is the "hero" of the alt right.
I get it!!

 

[redshank]

So what's up, Shanky. You upset the "world" makes giving the white power salute a problem?

I also think the "world" makes Justin wearing blackface a problem btw. Although 20 years ago, it would have been dumb and edgy (in a bad way) and not clearly over the line. Justin keeps getting elected anyway because most people don't want a CPC government. I don't think many voters like the blackface routine.

But why do you think it's wrong to stigmatize the White Power salute?

You're out of the loop on this and your reaction is exactly what the trolls that started this wanted.

OK sign is under siege: How the squeaky-clean hand gesture was twisted by trolls and acquired racist undertones

Barack Obama has done it. So have Oprah Winfrey, Ronald Reagan, Malcolm of “Malcolm in the Middle,” Mike Tyson and Beyoncé.

www.unionleader.com

These are kids that are "Edgelords" on the internet doing stupid stuff and waiting to see what kind of reaction they can get from "Normies" Pathetic but that's what it is

 

[mandrill]

You're out of the loop on this and your reaction is exactly what the trolls that started this wanted.

OK sign is under siege: How the squeaky-clean hand gesture was twisted by trolls and acquired racist undertones

Barack Obama has done it. So have Oprah Winfrey, Ronald Reagan, Malcolm of “Malcolm in the Middle,” Mike Tyson and Beyoncé.

www.unionleader.com

These are kids that are "Edgelords" on the internet doing stupid stuff and waiting to see what kind of reaction they can get from "Normies" Pathetic but that's what it is

You missed the discussion I had on this farther up the thread. You should go check it out.

 

[mandrill]

Rittenhouse verdict celebrated on right-wing social media as green light for killing protesters

The exultation on right-wing social media following Kyle Rittenhouse’s acquittal has been sickeningly predictable: Mainstream conservatives loudly valorize Rittenhouse as a “hero,” while more extremist voices, applying the same logic, demand that more...

www.dailykos.com

 

[Tomoreno]

Rittenhouse verdict celebrated on right-wing social media as green light for killing protesters

The exultation on right-wing social media following Kyle Rittenhouse’s acquittal has been sickeningly predictable: Mainstream conservatives loudly valorize Rittenhouse as a “hero,” while more extremist voices, applying the same logic, demand that more...

www.dailykos.com

Please post some links of leftist media that still keep lying about facts of Rittenhouse case.

Or even better... try finding those that admitted to lying and apologized for slander.

 

[mandrill]

Please post some links of leftist media that still keep lying about facts of Rittenhouse case.

Or even better... try finding those that admitted to lying and apologized for slander.

Read the linked piece and if you find any lies or falsehoods in it, we can discuss.

What it says is that the Far Right media is using the Rittenhouse case as a call to violence and suggesting that the verdict will insulate those who utilize gun violence in the future.

 

[Valcazar]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464743404731052036

Quite the "joke". Every Proud Boy, Oathkeeper and 3%-er photo or video I've ever seen has the same "joke". You'd think they'd find another "joke". But it's always the same "joke".

And it just seems to be righties who enjoy the "joke".

And even if it is a "joke", hasn't it become a sign of the Far Right anyway? I mean, they all do it. All the time.

So - assuming it's a "hoax" - isn't the fact that it's a "hoax" that's just done by White Supremacists to troll lefties simply mean that it's a white supremacist sign.

But of course the "joke" is that it's a real White Power sign, dressed up as a joke. So the boys can do their white power shit and then deny it afterwards and say "It's a joke".

https://i1.wp.com/www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/roger-stone-proud-boys-flash-white-supremacist-power-symbol-e1612643931512.png?resize=520%2C289&ssl=1

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

 

[Tomoreno]

Read the linked piece and if you find any lies or falsehoods in it, we can discuss.

What it says is that the Far Right media is using the Rittenhouse case as a call to violence and suggesting that the verdict will insulate those who utilize gun violence in the future.

I've read this thread and replies in it. Majority of people who share left views keep repeating lies and false narrative, even after the trial and after all facts are already known.

Good luck trying to convince me and others that you're just posting an article. You and your comrades were wrong about this case, about truth and facts, but you can't admit it or let it go. It's eating you from the inside, so you keep posting BS articles and opinions to soothe your aches.

 

[mandrill]

Vigilantes are not patriots (msn.com)

 

[mandrill]

I've read this thread and replies in it. Majority of people who share left views keep repeating lies and false narrative, even after the trial and after all facts are already known.
Good luck trying to convince me and others that you're just posting an article. You and your comrades were wrong about this case, about truth and facts, but you can't admit it or let it go. It's eating you from the inside, so you keep posting BS articles and opinions to soothe your aches.

Really?.....

Go read my posts in this thread and in the other locked threads. I predicted all along that KR would be acquitted and cheered the verdict - because I think it's clearly the correct verdict in the case.

I've frequently expressed sympathy for the situation that KR was in that night and his current situation attempting to get back to a normal life.

I do think he has - or at least had - white supremacist views, based on the photos of him giving the white power salute with the Proud Boys. That doesn't cancel out my belief that the verdict was correct or my sympathy for him.

How is the verdict "eating me from the inside"?.... I WELCOMED the verdict. It's legally and morally the correct resolution of the trial.

I have frequently said that the acquittal will give rise to an escalation in street violence. Prove me wrong.

I recently posted that the killings that night had little to do with "protecting the community" and were the result of two opposing set of vigilantes meeting on the street. The facts bear me out 100%.

I believed the narrative that KR illegally possessed the gun and illegally took it across a state line. OTOH, I thought those points were minor and had little to do with the trial or the overall fact picture of KR. I accept that my belief was wrong. IDGAF because I always felt those facts were legally irrelevant and they didn't influence my opinion.

So, I'm waiting for your comeback.

 

[bearjew]

Really?.....

Go read my posts in this thread and in the other locked threads. I predicted all along that KR would be acquitted and cheered the verdict - because I think it's clearly the correct verdict in the case.

I've frequently expressed sympathy for the situation that KR was in that night and his current situation attempting to get back to a normal life.

I do think he has - or at least had - white supremacist views, based on the photos of him giving the white power salute with the Proud Boys. That doesn't cancel out my belief that the verdict was correct or my sympathy for him.

How is the verdict "eating me from the inside"?.... I WELCOMED the verdict. It's legally and morally the correct resolution of the trial.

I have frequently said that the acquittal will give rise to an escalation in street violence. Prove me wrong.

I recently posted that the killings that night had little to do with "protecting the community" and were probably the result of two opposing vigilantes attempting street justice. The facts bear me out 100%.

So, I'm waiting for your comeback.

He has said from almost day one that Kyle would be acquitted.

The evidence showed Kyle was in the right. I don't think the DA should have even tried to convict based on the evidence and video, waste of time and money.


I disagree it will escalate violence as the laws have not changed. Each event will be investigated just like always.

 

[Tomoreno]

I believed the narrative that KR illegally possessed the gun and illegally took it across a state line.

1) Possession of the gun wasn't illegal
2) He didn't take it across state line

Both of your claims are false. You should know that by now.

 

[mandrill]

1) Possession of the gun wasn't illegal
2) He didn't take it across state line

Both of your claims are false. You should know that by now.

Yes, I just said that and commented on it. Read the post I just made.

 

[Jasmina]

He used past tense. He admitted he misunderstood. And for some reason admins are removing comments that indicate it doesnt matter, his having the gun at a "friends" across the state line already IS NOT BETTER. In fact, it proves pre-meditation to murder.

1) Possession of the gun wasn't illegal
2) He didn't take it across state line

Both of your claims are false. You should know that by now.