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Is seeing SPs actually more cost-effective than dating in Toronto?

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I was reading this article here: https://dailyhive.com/toronto/cost-date-night-toronto and it states that

On average in 2019, date night in Canada cost $127. But in Toronto, that romantic night will cost an average of $150. In Vancouver, the same date is $149.
Which I thought was interesting because from my estimation, the average cost of seeing an escort in 2021 for 30 minutes would be $160 with the range being $150 - $250 and the average cost of seeing an escort for 1 hour would be $300 with the range being $250 - $400 which is all more than the average cost of a romantic night in Toronto according the to article. I have very limited expierence in wine and dining women so I am asking men who has dating expierence if dating is in fact more cost-effective than seeing SPs. If so, I would to give dating another shot as an attempt to save money and meet beautiful women at the same time.
 

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i think it depends on what type of girls you want to attract and date. But in general the hotter the civic woman you date, the cost will be more. However there are many variables like if you are good looking guy and smooth talker and hit the woman the right note, you can get by without expensive date. But in no matter what, dating require alot of time and effort just in relationship which cannot be measured by money. If you are contend just having woman around to fullfill sexual need and don't want to have kids in the future, paying SP is better option. But if you want a life long partner to spend time with, there is no choice but to spend time and money on date.
 

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No question for me, dating is much better and less expensive. But again, for me, the actual sex was not as important to me than the overall experience and human interaction. Having a few thousand dollars more in my pocket is something that I have come to enjoy. Oh, and the sexual aspect of my current relationship is amazing.
 
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Yeah it's cheaper. And the sex is way better and no wasting your energy on head games.

Of course when your in relationship. You feel get "free" sex. But you pay for it with you time. And granted if it's a monogomous relationship everyone gets boring in the bedroom at some point. And if she divorces you, you pay for it too. Which just makes it an different form of prostitution.

End of the day.....You always pay for it in one form of currency or another.

I was reading this article here: https://dailyhive.com/toronto/cost-date-night-toronto and it states that



Which I thought was interesting because from my estimation, the average cost of seeing an escort in 2021 for 30 minutes would be $160 with the range being $150 - $250 and the average cost of seeing an escort for 1 hour would be $300 with the range being $250 - $400 which is all more than the average cost of a romantic night in Toronto according the to article. I have very limited expierence in wine and dining women so I am asking men who has dating expierence if dating is in fact more cost-effective than seeing SPs. If so, I would to give dating another shot as an attempt to save money and meet beautiful women at the same time.
 

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This video says it all. I don't know how but this popped up 4 days ago on my list now I am passing it down. Weird the universe has a funny way of guiding people.

 

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I was reading this article here: https://dailyhive.com/toronto/cost-date-night-toronto and it states that



Which I thought was interesting because from my estimation, the average cost of seeing an escort in 2021 for 30 minutes would be $160 with the range being $150 - $250 and the average cost of seeing an escort for 1 hour would be $300 with the range being $250 - $400 which is all more than the average cost of a romantic night in Toronto according the to article. I have very limited expierence in wine and dining women so I am asking men who has dating expierence if dating is in fact more cost-effective than seeing SPs. If so, I would to give dating another shot as an attempt to save money and meet beautiful women at the same time.
As said , too may variables. It can be cheaper, if the end goal is sex. If fetish sex is wanted, and the taboos of such discussions, escorting can be much cheaper.
However, if flirting and the chase is desired, that is free outside of escorting so dating is much cheaper.
Id say they are generally very different experiences. Even a sex club is much different most of the time to an sp, as are pornstars and dancers etc. In the case where they tend to overlap, escorting is more cost time management effective. You can order what you like, looks, attitude etc and go on all the dates to the opera you want with sex after (or during) However, the pool of ladies that can emulate a date experience and are very attractive is very rare - at least one that is made to order.

Hell and there is drama for both. In my case an escort was moving and asked me to keep her kids kepsakes and she never returned to the area to collect them. So I am bound to watch over this sentimental stuff perhaps forever - life is full of drama.
 

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Honestly, and I mean no disrespect but you are not going to hook up with the type of women you want in the civie world.

Based on your posting history, you want to date girls who are 9s &10s. If I recall, you like the stripper, big tits, big ass, look. You also have some seriously deep seeded insecurities that would make trying to date these women harder for you and if you keep getting rejected without fixing those insecurities, I’m afraid of how that will take its toll on your mental and emotional state.

Again, I mean this respectfully and with compassion for your situation. Maybe I’m remembering your posts wrong but based on what I think I remember, I would suggest some internal work while seeing SPs, until you are truly ready to even try the real dating world.
 

AndrewX

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Dating is cheaper, you don't always have to go to fancy places.
 

jcpro

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Dating is cheaper, you don't always have to go to fancy places.
It's also more time consuming and as the old saying goes- time is money.
 

AndrewX

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It's also more time consuming and as the old saying goes- time is money.
Yes and there can be more drama too, if you're looking for a quickie SP or MP is the way to go. But there's no GF experience.
 
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Also, let's not forget stage of life. When younger, chasing girls in bars, the thrill attached when you meet someone and take them home (not sure that even happens anymore) was a rush. In the 70's and 80's you could get laid (if that was your goal) and not even have to buy a drink. If you want a relationship, and not just sex, then there are dating apps and all the associated naus. If you are polite, clean, and a good tipper, you can get pretty good quality sex way cheaper with a person who does it for a living. To quote Steve Martin: "I believe that sex is one of the most wholesome, beautiful, natural things that money can buy". And, the nicer you are, the nicer the people you deal with will be as a rule. Doesn't matter what service they provide.
 
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Personally i think dating is cheaper, and big time this depends on the girl. my ex would be happy just to spend time with me and alot of the dates i wouldn't even spend over 30$ and thats if i was paying, half the time she would pay... but finding a girl like that these days is a needle in a haystack, so until you find that needle SPs are probably the cheaper and easier option
 

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Honestly, and I mean no disrespect but you are not going to hook up with the type of women you want in the civie world.

Based on your posting history, you want to date girls who are 9s &10s. If I recall, you like the stripper, big tits, big ass, look. You also have some seriously deep seeded insecurities that would make trying to date these women harder for you and if you keep getting rejected without fixing those insecurities, I’m afraid of how that will take its toll on your mental and emotional state.

Again, I mean this respectfully and with compassion for your situation. Maybe I’m remembering your posts wrong but based on what I think I remember, I would suggest some internal work while seeing SPs, until you are truly ready to even try the real dating world.
Might as well say:

NO disrespect, but you're a looser 🤣

Hope I didn't hurt your feelings, asshole 🤣🤣🤣
 
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Might as well say:

NO disrespect, but you're a looser 🤣

Hope I didn't hurt your feelings, asshole 🤣🤣🤣
I never once said anything about him personally other then he has insecurities. I know plenty of hot women who think down on themselves and their looks. Doesn’t mean it is true. That is what insecurities usually are. False negative sense of self.

He just needs to work on that. But not once did I call him a loser or an asshole. Or even imply anything about his personal character. He could be a great guy, a good looking guy, great job, etc who doesn’t think he is. Women also like funny, honest, caring, trustworthy, etc and he could be all those. I don’t know.

He needs to know his strengths and project those if he wants to score the type of women he seems to be after. High insecurity is not going to work regardless of looks, money, etc.

So no - I didn’t call him a loser or asshole because I didn’t say anything against him. I just said he needs to get rid of his insecurities. Which are not a reflection of him personally.
 
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I never once said anything about him personally other then he has insecurities. I know plenty of hot women who think down on themselves and their looks. Doesn’t mean it is true. That is what insecurities usually are. False negative sense of self.

He just needs to work on that. But not once did I call him a loser or an asshole. Or even imply anything about his personal character. He could be a great guy, a good looking guy, great job, etc who doesn’t think he is. Women also like funny, honest, caring, trustworthy, etc and he could be all those. I don’t know.

He needs to know his strengths and project those if he wants to score the type of women he seems to be after. High insecurity is not going to work regardless of looks, money, etc.

So no - I didn’t call him a loser or asshole because I didn’t say anything against him. I just said he needs to get rid of his insecurities. Which are not a reflection of him personally.
Well, that joke flew over your head.

Ok... I don't think any guy on this website wants to hear that he needs to work on self improvement to be more successful with ladies.

You wanna be helpful??? Give him a free session and teach him how to give best cuni or something like that. I assure you it'll go a looong way for his self esteem and self improvement.
 

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Well, that joke flew over your head.

Ok... I don't think any guy on this website wants to hear that he needs to work on self improvement to be more successful with ladies.

You wanna be helpful??? Give him a free session and teach him how to give best cuni or something like that. I assure you it'll go a looong way for his self esteem and self improvement.
If that was a “joke” then yes - it went way over my head.

and guy may not want to hear, but then don’t openly post about your life. I post threads about my weight all the time, knowing full well it will open people up to calling me fat, etc. Gotta take the good with the bad.

And I don’t do freebies - being an SP is more cost effect over dating. LOL
 

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