Racism in SP Agencies and MP

[kherg007]

Let's be honest here: almost 20 posts in and this has not been mentioned?

The agency caters to the market. The reason why the market is racist is because clients don't want to see black workers. There is not as much demand. Don't blame the agency, blame yourselves.

If everyone only wanted to see black SPs then I guarantee you every agency would be lining up to find black SPs in their roster.

There's a f_cking reason why strip clubs have a 1,2 black stripper limit. If their complete lineup was only black, they know they will lose clients and people would stop going to that strip club.

Well, not me lol. I adore the ebony ladies. I spend 4 hours in a strip club w ebony ladies and I have to seek immediate medical attention, cuz, as the tv ad says, I'm going to have an erection lasting more than 4 hours lol

There are ladies in this biz who have been turned away (talking as recent as 5-10 years ago) cuz "we already have a black girl" or "they're not popular" without even letting the lady have a shot on her own merits. I think that's all these ladies want. A fair shot, not a summary judgment based on their race before they even get to show their merits.

I see more such ladies in the agencies than when i first started 7 years ago, so it seems progress. But when i hear stories like Leila's it breaks my heart. I have 3 biracial kids. It would infuriate me to see them denied anything they're aspiring to because of their appearance.

Thus progress? Yes, enough progress? Hmmm....

 

[lomotil]

Let's be honest here: almost 20 posts in and this has not been mentioned?

The agency caters to the market. The reason why the market is racist is because clients don't want to see black workers. There is not as much demand. Don't blame the agency, blame yourselves.

If everyone only wanted to see black SPs then I guarantee you every agency would be lining up to find black SPs in their roster.

There's a f_cking reason why strip clubs have a 1,2 black stripper limit. If their complete lineup was only black, they know they will lose clients and people would stop going to that strip club.

Your post underlines an inconvenient truth, just follow the money. The sex trade represents society often at it‘s most visceral level and is unregulated and not subject to the regulations of the Ontario Human Rights Code.

 

[y2kmark]

When it comes to personal services (SP session, massage, lat dance, etc..) discrimination (on whatever basis the customer wants) is fully allowable. Age discrimination is probably the most common...

 

[Escortlover24]

I still believe that there is a great demand for escorts of colour otherwise there would not be so many independent escorts and independent BBWs.

 

[Samranchoi]

Let's be honest here: almost 20 posts in and this has not been mentioned?

The agency caters to the market. The reason why the market is racist is because clients don't want to see black workers. There is not as much demand. Don't blame the agency, blame yourselves.

If everyone only wanted to see black SPs then I guarantee you every agency would be lining up to find black SPs in their roster.

There's a f_cking reason why strip clubs have a 1,2 black stripper limit. If their complete lineup was only black, they know they will lose clients and people would stop going to that strip club.

Ummmm, post #11

#11
So the issue is not agencies, it is their clients. If clients were pounding down their doors like they do to see other women, why wouldn’t they? The market dictates supply. So if anything, the guys in the market seem to be the ones who are racist. A handful of guys who prefer women of colour can’t influence the market. In the same way agencies don’t have a lot of BBW’s. There just isn’t s huge demand for them.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

I'm not trying to be racist, but black providers have a reputation of scamming people on Leolist, so that may negatively affect their business there. Also, look at the percentage of white people in the population vs black people. There are significantly more white people in the GTA, so the proportion of white people in the population most likely matches the amount of white people and black people hired as SPs, MPAs, etc. Now do I have the total stats of how many SWs are white, black , EI, Asian, etc n the Industry? No, I don't.

Something I gotta say here. Reputations only seem to stick on black people and not others

I'm not on the SP scene, but every thread I see about being scammed involves a female or agency that's white. Some of these ladies have been scamming for years, but they never seem to affects other white SP reputations.

Also, Asian ads are 99% bait-n-switch. You show up and it's a 60yo Asian lady, but no one has a problem with it. Everyone gives it a pass.

There's heavy racial bias in this hobby/community/industry

Not midway invaders, but I get your point.

Midway and MDS have a heavy black line-up.

 

[MONTYY]

Heavy racial bias in this hobby/community/industry

If you do not like it, go find another hobby

Maybe you should go push your agenda on other review boards

 

[curr3n_c1000]

If you do not like it, go find another hobby

Maybe you should go push your agenda on other review boards

What are you even talking about?

I made a comment and now you are all offended and triggered. Why don't you leave and find another hobby?

 

[MONTYY]

What are you even talking about?

I made a comment and now you are all offended and triggered. Why don't you leave and find another hobby?

You are the one taking a stand by calling the industry heavy racial bias, not me.
I could careless the ebony girls are outnumbered. They do not need equal representation.

 

[curr3n_c1000]

You are the one taking a stand by calling the industry heavy racial bias, not me.
I could careless the ebony girls are outnumbered. They do not need equal representation.

You don't like what I say, then go kick rock.

 

[lomotil]

Something I gotta say here. Reputations only seem to stick on black people and not others

I'm not on the SP scene, but every thread I see about being scammed involves a female or agency that's white. Some of these ladies have been scamming for years, but the reputation never affects others reputation.

Also, Asian ads are 99% bait-n-switch. You show up and it's a 60yo Asian lady, but no one has a problem with it. Everyone give it a pass.

Heavy racial bias in this hobby/community/industry


Midway and MDS have a heavy black line-up.

The bias in the sex trade is merely a mirror of what is going on in society in general. You are right on on your comment, just extrapolate it into the general society.

 

[tribunus]

Pretty easy to figure out what the majority want. Just look at the Mirage and HPL rosters.

Some demand for brown chicks. No demand for black chicks. And fat chicks have to go indy.

 

[lomotil]

Pretty easy to figure out what the majority want. Just look at the Mirage and HPL rosters.

Some demand for brown chicks. No demand for black chicks. And fat chicks have to go indy.

This is true and self evident but the beauty of the GTA is that virtually all shades, religions, ethnicity, creeds and colours under the sun are readily available, orifices included.

 

[Racer6]

Something I gotta say here. Reputations only seem to stick on black people and not others

I'm not on the SP scene, but every thread I see about being scammed involves a female or agency that's white. Some of these ladies have been scamming for years, but the reputation never affects others reputation.

Also, Asian ads are 99% bait-n-switch. You show up and it's a 60yo Asian lady, but no one has a problem with it. Everyone give it a pass.

Heavy racial bias in this hobby/community/industry


Midway and MDS have a heavy black line-up.

As indicated earlier, the majority of providers or girls who people see are white. If you have a larger sample size you are bound to have more scammers in that sample set. That explains the larger number of reviews on scammers who are white. Does this mean we give them a pass for being white? Not at all.

Ya. I meant Midway invaders has a lot of black chicks.

 

[moredale7]

@kherg007
Well-known member
Yesterday at 5:58 PM
I think it is attraction full stop not colourism. We are attracted to what we are attracted to. For whatever reason. Dictating preference is what is odious to me. (I know that's not what you're doing btw). But no one should have to defend his or her or their attraction preferences as long as the person attracted to is of the age and mind to consent. Not being attracted to white women is not racist. Not being attracted to any type is not racist. Not hiring them for employment, denying them education, based on ethnicity is racist.

I think the reality is many things cause us to be physically attracted to another. Eyes, body type, hair colour, personality, height, and yes, skin tone, all matter (and are physical). And this is a site devoted to mainly (not exclusively, shout out to FCIB!) men attracted to women such that they are willing to spend resources to share some companionship. Thus they will exercise their preferences however they came about. Some are attracted to lighter complexions. Some of us attracted to the darker complexions. Sometimes it's hair. There are heaps of blokes who go gaga over redheads. Or long hair. Not me. It's a physiology thing.

If this site was about hiring office jobs, then you'd be right. How our preferences come about may be another issue worth discussing. However, it exists, and this forum exists to help people effectively meet those preferences.

The above sentiments reflect my own. Who is anyone under any circumstances to tell me what I like? Discussions on race have their place however when it comes to sexual preferences saying I am racist because I like a particular gender is like calling me a homophobe because I prefer to suck pussy instead of cocks. Like many threads on this board, this one instantly splinters into conflicting tangents that do not directly speak to the original subject resulting in the typical mudslinging we see here. Racism has nothing to do with sexual preference. I know what I like, I know what I want and I don't let anyone's shaming ideological narratives cloud my skies.

I fuck who I want, you don't like that? Jump into a wood chipper.

MD

 

[curr3n_c1000]

As indicated earlier, the majority of providers or girls who people see are white. If you have a larger sample size you are bound to have more scammers in that sample set. That explains the larger number of reviews on scammers who are white. Does this mean we give them a pass for being white? Not at all.

Ya. I meant Midway invaders has a lot of black chicks.

if you are blaming white scammers on 'sample size', then yes that would be giving a pass. In contrast to saying "black providers have a reputation of scamming people on Leolist,".

 

[derrick76]

I'm not trying to be racist, but black providers have a reputation of scamming people on Leolist, so that may negatively affect their business there. Also, look at the percentage of white people in the population vs black people. There are significantly more white people in the GTA, so the proportion of white people in the population most likely matches the amount of white people and black people hired as SPs, MPAs, etc. Now do I have the total stats of how many SWs are white, black , EI, Asian, etc n the Industry? No, I don't.

Where is the reputation you speak of coming from? Who determined/established it? Is it another case of using one black person to judge a whole group, while not doing the same for others, who end up just being the lone wolf? The leo list scams I have encountered have all been White women. However, I've never used that to judge all the White providers, and instead move on to the next after doing a bit of research to mitigate the risk.

 

[derrick76]

You don't like what I say, then go kick rock.

This guy is exposing himself. You can tell he's on some "You don't like the racism here, go back to your country" BS....even if you are from the country, I might add.

 

[Escortlover24]

A provider I know said ''This industry is not inclusive at all.. I’m glad I have people who actually see the best in me beside my skin colour. In 2021, there’s still individuals who aren’t aware of diversity and that everyone is equal. Stop judging a book by its cover. '' It's very telling that its mostly black MPAs and escorts saying this industry is racist.

 

[Jenesis]

You are the one taking a stand by calling the industry heavy racial bias, not me.
I could careless the ebony girls are outnumbered. They do not need equal representation.

It is not necessarily about equal representation but equal opportunity to try and make something of sex work shouldn’t be too much to ask. That is something ebony ladies don’t have.


It’s okay though. You don’t care about the racial issues of others. We get it but don’t get pissy with the people who do and are calling it out for what it is.