Israeli snipers attack Gaza children
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You are blind if you believe that. People blindly hate Jews. And they are very obvious about it too.
Ot seems the only country that the gay community, the labour unions, the right, the left, etc. protest against is Israel.
Have you ever seen a protest for women’s rights in Saudi Arabia? Women until the last 5 years could not vote, drive, be in public alone, etc. They still have extremely limited rights.
No rights for the LGBTQ* in Iran or most countries in the world. Not a peep. Yet there is a group Queers Against Israel dedicated to harassing Israel to ‘free’ Palestinians. The irony is immense and extensive given that Hamas would burn them alive.
These are just a few examples of obvious hatred against anything involving Jews. Personally, I don’t get it.
Ot seems the only country that the gay community, the labour unions, the right, the left, etc. protest against is Israel.
Have you ever seen a protest for women’s rights in Saudi Arabia? Women until the last 5 years could not vote, drive, be in public alone, etc. They still have extremely limited rights.
No rights for the LGBTQ* in Iran or most countries in the world. Not a peep. Yet there is a group Queers Against Israel dedicated to harassing Israel to ‘free’ Palestinians. The irony is immense and extensive given that Hamas would burn them alive.
These are just a few examples of obvious hatred against anything involving Jews. Personally, I don’t get it.
Queers Against Israeli Apartheid is disbanded.
Queers Against Israeli Apartheid - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Oh, and if you think that all Jews back apartheid the way you, contact, cantaro and basketcase do, I have a course I'd love you to take.
Really, you all should stop trying to conflate the Jewish people with the love of apartheid, Liminal is right, all you're doing is boosting the spectre of antisemitism.
Back to Hebrew School: Unpacking Zionism & Apartheid
For many American Jews — whether we had formal Jewish education or not — this moment has challenged some of our fundamental beliefs about Israel and Judaism. Many of us were told that to be Jewish was to have a connection to and support the state of Israel. Many of us were taught that Zionism should be a core part of our identity and that apartheid was a slur word. We invite you to join us in an (in-person) open space for Jews to talk honestly about these difficult topics. You are welcome whether you’ve been thinking about these topics for years or if you are only now grappling with them.
Congrats! Did someone point out the irony to them?Queers Against Israeli Apartheid is disbanded.
Queers Against Israeli Apartheid - Wikipedia
Israel is the only country in Mideast or Africa with an annual pride parade. And you can acknowledge your sexual orientation publicly. Yet they still hate on the Jews.
So you're saying you can love the gays as long as you hate the Palestinians?
Wait, maybe you're trying to argue that you can't be racist if you have a pride march.
No, maybe its apartheid doesn't count if you can sneak a pride march past your really religious types.
Whatever.
As far as I can tell, HRW or anyone else doesn't seem to think having a pride march excuses apartheid.
But feel free to read the report and show me wrong on that one.
A Threshold Crossed
The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...
Which is?
You want equal rights but you ignore the fact that there are actually Palestinians in Israel and prefer under Israel rules...do you know this or ignorant about it?
That’s about the only accurate thing you said.
What a friggin bizarre argument. Israel should get a pass on ethnically cleansing millions of Palestinians, stealing their land, subjecting them to a brutal and ongoing military occupation, killing their kids and subjecting them to apartheid because of a Pride March?
Have you been to the Middle East? You seem to have no idea what's going on there...Unless you're an Arab, you won't have equal rights...If you're a woman, you won't have equal rights...if you're gay, run....try it...you just might have a change of heart...So you're saying you can love the gays as long as you hate the Palestinians?
Wait, maybe you're trying to argue that you can't be racist if you have a pride march.
No, maybe its apartheid doesn't count if you can sneak a pride march past your really religious types.
Whatever.
As far as I can tell, HRW or anyone else doesn't seem to think having a pride march excuses apartheid.
But feel free to read the report and show me wrong on that one.
A Threshold Crossed
The 213-page report, “A Threshold Crossed: Israeli Authorities and the Crimes of Apartheid and Persecution,” examines Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. It presents the present-day reality of a single authority, the Israeli government, ruling primarily over the area between the Jordan River and...www.hrw.org
Come on. You are much brighter than that. You can’t see the irony of LGBTQ* groups only protesting against Israel while there are absolutely no gay rights in the Mideast or Africa? It shows the level of hatred against Jews.
Don’t pretend to be dense.
Don’t pretend to be dense.
I would hazard a guess and say he has never been he’s one of those armchair general guys who thinks they know more than anyone even those actually there,Because they read some article or saw tweet
Frank is an expert at telling everyone else what they want what they should think and what they should do
He knows what the Palestinians want more than the Palestinians themselves
Is this what they taught you on your Birthright trip?
The Gaza slaughter in 2014, under investigation by the ICC.
The March of Return in 2019, under investigation by the ICC.
Netanyahu's attack on Gaza this year, also under investigation.
That doesn't even include the occupation, the settlements and apartheid.
Nothing you or anyone has accused Hamas of doing is anywhere near as bad as any of those acts.
And no, Palestinians do not support the status quo, one state apartheid solution.
The pure comedy of you making the exact same claims that gave rise to Queers Against Israeli Apartheid as an attack on them is amazing, but I'm sure way above your comprehension.
From the wiki page:
QuAIA formed shortly after the 2008 iteration of Israeli Apartheid Week at which queer activists had a discussion about "pinkwashing", or the use of gay rights as a propaganda tool to justify Israel's policy toward Palestine.[1]
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Sadly you guys think it's okay to blame the victim because they're Jews, just like some posters did about the random Jews being attacked over Gaza.
If the towers host significant military infrastructure they are (and yes, your rights groups and the UN have repeatedly condemned Hamas for hiding within civilian population, hospitals, schools, and the like). But you're right about civilian protesters and children; they aren't military targets. That said, civilians actively engaged in attacks on police will face consequences.
Of course you want to protect civilians engaged in violent acts of 'protest' while trying to pretend Jews in the West Bank are all legitimate targets because a few of them are terroristic assholes.
Sadly you can't read or understand surveys because that's not what the data says.
But I'm still trying to understand how you think Israel forcibly assimilating Palestinians against their will is going to solve anything.
Yes. There are protests about numerous countries and an active charity trying to rescue LGBTQ people from oppressive countries.
What it does show is that for some people like Franky, human rights aren't the issue, simply his obsession with Jews in the Middle East.
Like every country including Canada, Israel has its problems but when it comes to this conflict, the solution can only be found by both Palestinian and Israeli leadership fixing their issues.
