Unvaccinated employees at Toronto hospital network told they will be fired

[mdo2886]

Speaking of bright ... mRNA vaccines were first theorized in the early 1990's so ... a little more than 12 years. They became commercially viable and tested in the late 90's - early 00's. took me 2 minutes to Google that.

So ... the mRNA vaccine format is not new, the technology is not new. It is modified based on the virus it is designed to prevent but the science behind it is peer reviewed, effective and safe.

They have not been tried among a general population of humans for long term effects. Which is why they were approved under emergency conditions and all companies were given a guarantee of zero liability.

Even the Pfizer CEO is not fully vaxed. Wake up man!

 

[Leimonis]

Even the Pfizer CEO is not fully vaxed. Wake up man!

Can I clarify are we talking about him in reality or in the ultra right media?
https://www.reuters.com › article
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Pfizer CEO received his second dose of the COVID-19 vaccine on March 2021
Aug. 6, 2021 — “BREAKING REPORT: Pfizer ceo's israel visit canceled because he's NOT FULLY vaccinated.. Are you paying attention? ” reads a tweet ( here ) ...


https://apnews.com › article › fact-c...
Pfizer CEO was fully vaccinated in March - AP News
Aug. 5, 2021 — CLAIM: The CEO of Pfizer had to cancel a planned trip to Israel because he was not fully vaccinated. AP'S ASSESSMENT: Missing context.

https://amp.usatoday.com/amp/5524692001

 

[TimeOutCalled]

So ... he has been vaccinated, twice as of last spring. Once a liar always a liar. Why trust anything you say? Why do you feel it necessary to lie to make your point? I research mRNA vaccine history and you prefer to just make stuff up?

The mRNA concept has been in use long term (assuming long term is measured in years), every new strain of flu is a variant and the vaccines are modified to minimize the effect (not cure) of that variant. So no, the Covid vaccine has not been in use long term because Covid has only been around a couple of years. But mRNA vaccines have been around 10+ years in one modified form or another.

What the blazing fuck makes people like you lie, misinform and obfuscate? Explain that after you wake up, troglodyte.

They have not been tried among a general population of humans for long term effects. Which is why they were approved under emergency conditions and all companies were given a guarantee of zero liability.

Even the Pfizer CEO is not fully vaxed. Wake up man!

 

[northofsixty]

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What the blazing fuck makes people like you lie, misinform and obfuscate? Explain that after you wake up, troglodyte.
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Maybe because they are delusional small minded individuals with a tenuous at best grasp on reality that cling to their beliefs as the world around them constantly proves them to be completely and spectacularly wrong - but that is something their warped view of the world will never let them acknowledge or accept. Prime examples of this kind: sp free, canada-man, Tee Jay, seagerbuzz, mdo2886, small hatchet and all like them.

 

[basketcase]

So ... he has been vaccinated, twice as of last spring. Once a liar always a liar. Why trust anything you say? Why do you feel it necessary to lie to make your point? I research mRNA vaccine history and you prefer to just make stuff up?

The mRNA concept has been in use long term (assuming long term is measured in years), every new strain of flu is a variant and the vaccines are modified to minimize the effect (not cure) of that variant. So no, the Covid vaccine has not been in use long term because Covid has only been around a couple of years. But mRNA vaccines have been around 10+ years in one modified form or another.

What the blazing fuck makes people like you lie, misinform and obfuscate? Explain that after you wake up, troglodyte.

I get them wanting to avoid big pharma vaccines because of hypothetical medical risk and instead endorse a Merck neurotoxin mean for horses and dogs.

 

[ShockNAwww]

 

[squeezer]

They have not been tried among a general population of humans for long term effects. Which is why they were approved under emergency conditions and all companies were given a guarantee of zero liability.

Even the Pfizer CEO is not fully vaxed. Wake up man!

How do you survive in everyday life?

 

[mdo2886]

So ... he has been vaccinated, twice as of last spring. Once a liar always a liar. Why trust anything you say? Why do you feel it necessary to lie to make your point? I research mRNA vaccine history and you prefer to just make stuff up?

The mRNA concept has been in use long term (assuming long term is measured in years), every new strain of flu is a variant and the vaccines are modified to minimize the effect (not cure) of that variant. So no, the Covid vaccine has not been in use long term because Covid has only been around a couple of years. But mRNA vaccines have been around 10+ years in one modified form or another.

What the blazing fuck makes people like you lie, misinform and obfuscate? Explain that after you wake up, troglodyte.

If you were intelligent and had some ability to read through the lines as opposed to hurl lame insults you would read that he took the second dose 3 days after he was barred entry to Israel. So, caught red handed and I am betting that it was saline!

Did I ever say anything about actual MRNA technology? These particular vaccines are completely untested for long term effects.

By your idiot logic any new vaccine of kind doesn’t need to be put through a normal rigorous testing process with double blind studies - the technology is proven so start injecting!

I suppose you also buy the CDC’s “full approval” when such full approval by normal standards is impossible. And the pharma companies should now have some liability right? Nope.

You are beyond saving, cuck.

 

[mdo2886]

How do you survive in everyday life?

I am in Toronto twice a week or so, I would be happy to show you and give you a course in manners.

 

[mandrill]

I am in Toronto twice a week or so, I would be happy to show you and give you a course in manners.

If you're going to fight with Squeezer, he shall insist you fight properly masked and be fully vaxxed before the engagement. As would I.

And that hand sanitizer must be appropriately and liberally applied before each and every barrage of fisticuffs. .

 

[squeezer]

I am in Toronto twice a week or so, I would be happy to show you and give you a course in manners.

LMFAO, ya whatever tough guy. You're a clown challenging someone from behind a keyboard.

 

[TimeOutCalled]

On August 25th you said straight out "Even the Pfizer CEO is not fully vaxed."

Now, you admit he was vaccinated in April (which you clearly knew and chose to ignore). Then, once caught in a your lie, you say it was probably saline.

Once a liar, always a liar. You'll say anything to make a point but your credibility is shot. Your rage stems from getting caught with your pants on fire. In your world, do people just generally swallow your lies, because apparently you're somewhat disquieted by it?

And vaccines are modified yearly, sometimes twice yearly to deal with our annual flu variants. So yes, not all Vaccines are put through rigorous testing with double blind studies once their initial efficacy and safety has been proven.

So ... let's re cap, you are wrong about the history and efficacy of the vaccine; you're a liar who, once caught, lashes out rather than learns; and when corrected decides he's also a mind reader who's pretty sure the Pfizer exec really took saline.

You're basically a misinformed, conspiracy theorist with anger management issues. Have I missed anything?

If you were intelligent and had some ability to read through the lines as opposed to hurl lame insults you would read that he took the second dose 3 days after he was barred entry to Israel. So, caught red handed and I am betting that it was saline!

Did I ever say anything about actual MRNA technology? These particular vaccines are completely untested for long term effects.

By your idiot logic any new vaccine of kind doesn’t need to be put through a normal rigorous testing process with double blind studies - the technology is proven so start injecting!

I suppose you also buy the CDC’s “full approval” when such full approval by normal standards is impossible. And the pharma companies should now have some liability right? Nope.

You are beyond saving, cuck.

 

[basketcase]

Its a simple case of risk reward. My own chances of dying from Covid are better than 1 in 65,000. Quite logical to not take an untested product with odds like that!

Same could be said about seatbelt mandates but obviously the courts have upheld those laws.

 

[basketcase]

how do you feel about people who believe that Earth is round vs those who believe it's flat?

Except as a gateway to other conspiracy theories, flat earth idiots aren't really harming society the way that those refusing to listen to the science on covid are.

 

[Leimonis]

LMFAO, ya whatever tough guy. You're a clown challenging someone from behind a keyboard.

Besides, he knows you wouldn’t want to breath the same air he breathes.

 

[shack]

Its a simple case of risk reward. My own chances of dying from Covid are better than 1 in 65,000. Quite logical to not take an untested product with odds like that!

It is quite illogical to think that you have any idea what you are talking about.

It is illogical to think that death from covid of 1:65,000 is a greater risk than 1:9,000,000 chance of death (6 dead from approx. 50M vaccine doses) in Canada from the vaxx. That is a 15 fold increase in odds for you.

Which does not include idiotically ignoring the long term effects of covid, the extra strain on hospitals of treating covid, the chance of passing on the disease to others, etc.

The risk taking of selfish POS's like you is denying the reward of normalcy to the rest of society.

And you have been proven to be a liar, so LOGIC says do the opposite of what you propose.

 

[mdo2886]

It is quite illogical to think that you have any idea what you are talking about.

It is illogical to think that death from covid of 1:65,000 is a greater risk than 1:9,000,000 chance of death (6 dead from approx. 50M vaccine doses) in Canada from the vaxx. That is a 15 fold increase in odds for you.

Which does not include idiotically ignoring the long term effects of covid, the extra strain on hospitals of treating covid, the chance of passing on the disease to others, etc.

The risk taking of selfish POS's like you is denying the reward of normalcy to the rest of society.

And you have been proven to be a liar, so LOGIC says do the opposite of what you propose.

It seems that even basic reading comprehension is beyond you.

I never compared the odds of death of Covid versus the odds of death from the vaccine. I compared the odds of death from Covid to the possibilities of long term side effects from the vaccines. A 1 in 65,000 chance of death may as well be zero - I will sure as hell take my chances with that than having circulatory, immune or heart issues later on.

You are quite correct that in Canada the reports of adverse affects are low - will this change over time? That is yet to be seen.

It is ironic that a man who spends time on this board worries about spreading a mostly innocuous disease, and more ironic for him to feel like some kind of hero and protector of others while doing so, and while taking a vaccine that suppresses symptoms but doesn’t eliminate spread.

Unreal that you “must get vaxed” dummies can’t make that leap in logic - you yourselves are the actual potential superspreaders since you may be feeling all fine and dandy, with no cough or headache, out in the community passing it on like a chain letter.

 

[mdo2886]

On August 25th you said straight out "Even the Pfizer CEO is not fully vaxed."

Now, you admit he was vaccinated in April (which you clearly knew and chose to ignore). Then, once caught in a your lie, you say it was probably saline.

Once a liar, always a liar. You'll say anything to make a point but your credibility is shot. Your rage stems from getting caught with your pants on fire. In your world, do people just generally swallow your lies, because apparently you're somewhat disquieted by it?

And vaccines are modified yearly, sometimes twice yearly to deal with our annual flu variants. So yes, not all Vaccines are put through rigorous testing with double blind studies once their initial efficacy and safety has been proven.

So ... let's re cap, you are wrong about the history and efficacy of the vaccine; you're a liar who, once caught, lashes out rather than learns; and when corrected decides he's also a mind reader who's pretty sure the Pfizer exec really took saline.

You're basically a misinformed, conspiracy theorist with anger management issues. Have I missed anything?

I am not disquieted whatsoever.

Yes I was wrong about the Pfizer CEO not being fully vaccinated currently. In your world of hobgoblins and conspiracy theorists it is a deliberate lie I am spreading with some nefarious intent.

Do you not think it suspicious that the CEO of the goddam company had not been fully dosed, flew somewhere and was told to turn around, it made media headlines and a few days later he took the shot.

There is simply no way for this vaccine to have been completely and rigorously tested when the average time for approval is longer by many multiples.

I do hope it works out for you.

 

[seagerbuzz]

How do you survive in everyday life?

How do you have time to post on here every minute when you're too busy banging hot women(bullshit) and checking your Pfizer stocks every hour.

 

[shack]

It seems that even basic reading comprehension is beyond you.

I never compared the odds of death of Covid versus the odds of death from the vaccine. I compared the odds of death from Covid to the possibilities of long term side effects from the vaccines. A 1 in 65,000 chance of death may as well be zero - I will sure as hell take my chances with that than having circulatory, immune or heart issues later on.

Unreal that you “must get vaxed” dummies

Hey dummy, you should have.

Either compare deaths to deaths or long term side effects to long term side effects, but to think that death from covid is equal to side effects from the vax is ridiculous. I, completely appropriately, compared deaths to deaths. And even if your numbers are correct (which I highly doubt as you have been shown to be a liar on top of being clued out and politically biased) dying from covid is15 times more likely than dying from a vaxx.

I don't know the numbers as per long term side effects of each but I am confident that there would be a similar ratio. If you are afraid of the side effects you listed above, why are you not afraid of long term respiratory or mental side effects from covid. You should be because your brain is already addled.