Dangerous Delta COVID-19 Variant Infecting Vaccinated Adults In Israel
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I guess you are tired of being proven wrong.So…a video.
Don’t talk to me.
Post something accurate and it may reduce your responses.
The points in his tweet?
I didn't think it worth bothering, but sure.
"doesn't confer immunity": wrong.
"doesn't limit 'transmission' ": wrong. (nice use of scare quotes though)
"only reduces symptoms w/ a 0.7% ARR": not technically wrong, but deeply misleading
"has 0 longterm safety data and was made by criminal companies": arguing no vaccine should ever be used if developed during an outbreak is a bit nuts. The "criminal companies" is good, though.
"a disease w/ 99.7% survival rate": misleading
So when you see a tweet full of misleading catchphrases and buzzwords like that, you don't develop a high opinion of the writer.
No, there’s nothing misleading about it at all. If Pfizer itself says that the “vaccines” don’t make you immune, don’t stop infection and don’t stop transmission…where are you getting your information from?
The only misleading statistic is the “95% effective” number that gets thrown around.
The absolute risk reduction is LESS THAN 1%.
You’re just a willing mark at this point. There is just no way to justify the risks these shots present.
I do encourage peoples that are old (or oldish, like 50+, the ones who actually dies of it) and peoples with weak immunity system to get it. They need the protection. Once vaccinated they should be protected. End of story. Its not about "free riding". I think its ludacris to want KIDS to get it. I think its out of bounds to try to get 18-30s to get it too. The death risk for them is ridiculously low. Most don't even have any symptoms. I even read something about kids having more chances to die from the flu than covid.
You are a moron! 90% efficacy means 10 folks out of 100 will fall through the crack and get infected. The difference is those 10 folks will mostly not feel very sick with COVID.
Get your facts straight before you spout off nonsense and bullshit.
The problem is those 18 to 30 who you want to leave out will carry the virus and possibly cause mutations and spikes in the fall. We do not need another full lockdown. Do your part if you actually want to see an end to the lockdowns.
Yes, sp free, you've made it very clear you don't understand the science but are proudly going to keep talking despite that.
Give yourself a cookie.
It is though. You may not be thinking about it that way, but you are basing your risk calculation on the fact other people get it so you don't have to.
The flu does tend to be riskier for infants and the very young as far as we can tell. But again, you are encouraging everyone to make an individual choice based on death (and death only) because your individual risk may be better if other people take on more risk for you instead. (And these kids.)
No, the fact is more or less correct. They don't like people using the virus efficiency calculation (because it sounds like a good number) so they use the absolute risk reduction from the trials as if it is a more valid measure. Misleading, yes, but not an incorrect fact.
I think he has already said that he just ignores the lockdowns and sees who he wants anyway, so that isn't really a good argument.
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Not necessarily true. Those who have had covid without knowing or who recovered easily will be just as fine as those who were vaccinated. The "very sick" applies to those 10% who are at risk and vaccinated. And due to the abandonment of the universal testing, we will never know for sure, either way.
CDC Investigating Death of 13-Year-Old That Died After COVID Vaccine
Jacob Clynick received his second dose of the Pfizer vaccine on June 13 and died on June 15. The CDC says it's "premature to assign a specific cause of death."
www.newsweek.com
It’s worth the risk!
That is false! Most of the 10% had very mild symptoms.
Curbing Delta’s force, vaccines keep Israel’s hospitals calm and avert lockdown
‘If we weren’t so well-vaccinated, lockdown would be looming,' says top government adviser; doctors breathe sigh of relief, but worries linger about 'weak spot' in COVID fight
www.timesofisrael.com
Those peoples may cause spike of CASES but they won't be much affected from it. Peoples 18-30 goes trough covid like they go trough a cold most of the time, or have no symptom at all. Some unlucky ones may go trough it like a very bad flu and a tiny tiny low % may die from it but those are very rare. Then peoples who are older and have been vaccinated will be protected if they get in contact with them. Mutations so far have not been proved to be deadlier or anything. Viruses mutate all the time its normal.
No we don't need another lockdown and thats exactly IT, enough with the governements going banana for Covid. It was fine the first time when it was the unknown, its not now !! We have to learn to live with it.
Then do your part and stop the spread! 18 to 30 year olds spread it just like anyone else and some of the receivers of the germs are dumbass folks that refuse the vaccine and are in danger. Mind you, I really don't mind a good solid culling of the dumbasses.
And some unlucky one got hospitalized and admitted to ICUs.
Sure, most would survive but likely live with effects from Covid for the rest of their lives.
At 18-30, with long lives ahead, taking this risk is not worth it. So everyone should get vaccinated, protect your friends and family, and get us out of this pandemic.
If i catch it ill stay home. No worry. I will repeat myself AGAIN, but im not taking an experimental vaccine for such a low danger virus that has been extremely exagerated by the medias and governements.
This is acceptable damage. The complications in the 18 to 40 bracket is MINIMAL. Look, life ain't risk free. I woke up today reading that the Blue Jackets goaltender at only 24 y.o died because he slipt (is that the right word, from slippery?) going out of a hot tub after fireworks gone wrong? What a stupid and terrible way to die. Dude was a millionaire and super young and dies on a freak accident. Thats life.
Anyway. Im pretty much done with this conversation, we just agree to disagree.
That's interesting
www.israelnationalnews.com
Natural infection vs vaccination: Which gives more protection?
Nearly 40% of new COVID patients were vaccinated - compared to just 1% who had been infected previously.
www.israelnationalnews.com
He does not care. He's said it repeatedly.
Once he notices he has symptoms he will stay home, but for the rest of the time he will just infect people without a care in the world.
He doesn't consider it his responsibility to be careful.
