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Frankfooter

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Against nuclear proliferation while making excuses for Iran enriching Uranium 20 times more than regular civilian use.
Iran is negotiating to return to the JCPOA, they are enriching because that's the only card in their hand.
Meanwhile, Israel admits to assassinating scientists and causing nuclear terrorism and it doesn't even register with you.
Until Israel signs the NPT, you have no right to criticize countries that have.
 

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Yes. According to May's IAEA report, Iran already has enough enriched uranium for 3 bombs with a breakout time of 2.3 months. Why are you incapable of condemning them when even the UN agency in charge condemns them?

As I've said repeatedly, Iran can have nukes if they want but they should face the same consequences as North Korea.
They agreed to not pursue nukes and they were still facing the same consequences as n. Korea. How is that a good deal?
 

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Iran is negotiating to return to the JCPOA,...
Maybe you should read what is actually going on instead of just making up your whitewashing claims because all sides including the Iranians say Iran will not return to the JCPOA.

60% has no civilian justification and the IAEA is no longer convinced their program is peaceful but you keep trying to excuse them because you hatred for Israel has you justifying a repressive religious oligarchy possibly working towards nukes.

And it's amazing how often you chose to ignore the reality that if Israel had signed the NPT in 1968, they'd still be an existing nuclear power.

p.s. After all the time you've spent justifying or trying to downplay attacks on Israeli settler civilians, it's interesting you think the scientists on charge of a weapons program are protected civilians.
 

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Maybe you should read what is actually going on instead of just making up your whitewashing claims because all sides including the Iranians say Iran will not return to the JCPOA.
Um...

I know, that you think not being an NPT signatory and instead bombing nuclear facilities and assassinating scientists is the way to go.
But that's just more of your settler colonialism, where you just keep wanting to bomb the locals away.
 

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Um...
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Did you bother reading the articles because Iran has been clear that they will not accept returning to the JCPOA and wants a different deal. Sad that you think an country enriching to 60% while having enough material to make several bombs within 2 months is an appropriate negotiation tactic even after the IAEA has repeatedly condemned them.

Of course equally sad is that you are unable to separate criticism of Iran from your hate-filled Israel agenda.
 

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All the attempts to demonize Iran aside, the
Did you bother reading the articles because Iran has been clear that they will not accept returning to the JCPOA and wants a different deal.
From what I've read they just want the deal they negotiated for in the first place.
The US never held up their end of the deal by ending sanctions, as their part of the treaty demanded.
Even now the US wants Iran to re-enter the deal without ending sanctions first.
Iran now has better centrifuges yet the US is still refusing to honour the sanction relief they agreed to in the JCPOA.

This is what Tehran says.
 

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From what I've read they just want the deal they negotiated for in the first place.
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Maybe try actually reading something other than press releases directly from Iran's government. I could see why you like the article because Iran is blaming Israel for everything just like you do. It is widely known that Biden would accept the original JCPOA if Iran was willing. That's not happening.

According to law they passed, they are required to enrich 120 kg of 20% of which they 've produced 108 kg in 5 months and announced they now have 6.5 kg of 60%. JCPOA was designed to keep Iran's breakout time to around a year. According to the May IAEA report, that time was just over 2 months and based on Iran's recent announcements that will be less.

I'm also not sure what you are trying to say about the centrifuges other than proving my point about Iran not wanting to return. JCPOA said Iran could only use gen-1 centrifuges but Iran is clear they won't accept that.

Of course you have no issue if Iran has a much enrichment capacity as the US despite only having 1 reactor and no issue they have enough enriched uranium for at least 2 bombs because...Israel....
 

Frankfooter

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Maybe try actually reading something other than press releases directly from Iran's government. I could see why you like the article because Iran is blaming Israel for everything just like you do. It is widely known that Biden would accept the original JCPOA if Iran was willing. That's not happening.

According to law they passed, they are required to enrich 120 kg of 20% of which they 've produced 108 kg in 5 months and announced they now have 6.5 kg of 60%. JCPOA was designed to keep Iran's breakout time to around a year. According to the May IAEA report, that time was just over 2 months and based on Iran's recent announcements that will be less.

I'm also not sure what you are trying to say about the centrifuges other than proving my point about Iran not wanting to return. JCPOA said Iran could only use gen-1 centrifuges but Iran is clear they won't accept that.

Of course you have no issue if Iran has a much enrichment capacity as the US despite only having 1 reactor and no issue they have enough enriched uranium for at least 2 bombs because...Israel....
Iran is actively in negotiations to reenact the JCPOA.

Israel refused to sign the NPT, allow inspections and continues to brag about killing Iranian scientists and bombing their facilities.
Yet you criticize on Iran.

You don't support peace, you want war with Iran.
 

basketcase

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Iran is actively in negotiations to reenact the JCPOA.
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Iran is in negotiations for a new deal. It's being referred to as JCPOA 2.0.

p.s. I love how you always try and project your fixations about wanting war and destruction on others. If Iran wants to behave like North Korea then they should face the same sanctions as North Korea. Sadly you are so fixated on Israel that you can't comprehend why people would be upset with Iran for constantly moving closer to weapons potential.
 

Frankfooter

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Iran is in negotiations for a new deal. It's being referred to as JCPOA 2.0.

p.s. I love how you always try and project your fixations about wanting war and destruction on others. If Iran wants to behave like North Korea then they should face the same sanctions as North Korea. Sadly you are so fixated on Israel that you can't comprehend why people would be upset with Iran for constantly moving closer to weapons potential.
In what way is Iran acting like North Korea?

Are they illegally occupying another country?
Do they rule through apartheid?
Do they assassinate scientists in other countries?
Did they sign and abide by the NPT and then sign and abide by an additional, voluntary agreement?

Iran is negotiating and willing to sign a deal guaranteeing they won't build nukes.
If only NK and Israel were willing to come to the table to talk peace.
 
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In what way is Iran acting like North Korea?

Are they illegally occupying another country?
Do they rule through apartheid?
Do they assassinate scientists in other countries?
Did they sign and abide by the NPT and then sign and abide by an additional, voluntary agreement?
Iran funds, arms and trains Terrorists around the world and you’re OK with having them having nukes?
That’s not a surprise you probably hope they destroy Israel and the Jews too
 

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In what way is Iran acting like North Korea?
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Have you not been reading this thread?

Enriching masses of uranium to 3% for 1 reactor, enriching a load to 20% with no reasonable purpose and enriching enough to 60% to make a bomb or two when that level of enrichment has NO peaceful use. Continuing to install more centrifuges and more advanced centrifuges despite only having 1 commercial reactor to provide for. Add to that banning IAEA inspectors and getting caught having undeclared nuclear sites that they refuse to explain. This is pretty much the state North Korea was at immediately before they withdrew from the NPT. There is a reason why the IAEA just changed their description of Iran's program, admitting the can't confirm it is a peaceful program.

Do you know how dumb your double standards when it comes to Israel look? But sure, keep pretending you support disarmament while excusing Iran for starting a new nuclear race in an unstable region.
 

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Iran funds, arms and trains Terrorists around the world and you’re OK with having them having nukes?
That’s not a surprise you probably hope they destroy Israel and the Jews too
Sadly Franky is the kind of guy who would use the excuse of "defending" Al Aqsa if Iran or one of their proxies decided to nuke Jerusalem.
 

Frankfooter

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Have you not been reading this thread?

Enriching masses of uranium to 3% for 1 reactor, enriching a load to 20% with no reasonable purpose and enriching enough to 60% to make a bomb or two when that level of enrichment has NO peaceful use. Continuing to install more centrifuges and more advanced centrifuges despite only having 1 commercial reactor to provide for. Add to that banning IAEA inspectors and getting caught having undeclared nuclear sites that they refuse to explain. This is pretty much the state North Korea was at immediately before they withdrew from the NPT. There is a reason why the IAEA just changed their description of Iran's program, admitting the can't confirm it is a peaceful program.
Nah, you're pushing Israeli talking points again.

NK and Israel both refused to sign the NPT and they both built bombs.
Iran has signed both the NPT and the JCPOA and abided by both until the US pulled out and refused to honour their end of the deal.
Israel has the extra bonus of assassinating scientists and bombing nuclear sites.

In this subject area, Israel is about as benevolent as NK and Iran the only peaceful, non-nuke party.
 

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Nah, you're pushing Israeli talking points again.
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Right, you think Jews control the IAEA too. All the data I posted was directly from IAEA reports. Just another case where you ignore UN agencies when it doesn't fit your obsessive agenda.

And while we are discussing agencies you quote very selectively:


p.s. Invent whatever facts you want but North Korea was an NPT member and were aided by Non-NPT Pakistan in building their weapons systems in exchange for rocket technology. Of course you never mention that India and Pakistan are non-NPT nuclear powers who still have flareups of war. Of course commenting on those two countries doesn't further your anti-Israel crusade.
 

Frankfooter

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Right, you think Jews control the IAEA too. All the data I posted was directly from IAEA reports. Just another case where you ignore UN agencies when it doesn't fit your obsessive agenda.

And while we are discussing agencies you quote very selectively:


p.s. Invent whatever facts you want but North Korea was an NPT member and were aided by Non-NPT Pakistan in building their weapons systems in exchange for rocket technology. Of course you never mention that India and Pakistan are non-NPT nuclear powers who still have flareups of war. Of course commenting on those two countries doesn't further your anti-Israel crusade.
Would you stop with the imaginary tropes and intentional lies? Where have I said anything about anyone controlling the IEA?
Have you no honour?

Iran's leader is a right wing despot, dickwad. I agree.
He, like Israel, should be investigated and Amnesty's reports on both are to be referred.

Oh, and thanks for reminding me that even NK signed the NPT.
That leaves Israel with some lovely country as nuclear despot states.
 

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...Where have I said anything about anyone controlling the IEA?
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Well you just said the IAEA reports are really Israeli talking points.

But here you are arguing that a state that 'elected' by a "right wing despot, dickwad" enriching significant amounts of uranium to 60% and refusing IAEA inspections isn't an issue.
 

Frankfooter

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Well you just said the IAEA reports are really Israeli talking points.

But here you are arguing that a state that 'elected' by a "right wing despot, dickwad" enriching significant amounts of uranium to 60% and refusing IAEA inspections isn't an issue.
As long as they sign the treaty, sanctions are ended and inspections are resumed.
That will lead to peace.

All you want is an excuse to start yet another stupid middle eastern war.
You really shouldn't be allowed to even post on this subject until you agree Israel should sign the NPT and allow full inspections as well.
 

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As long as they sign the treaty, sanctions are ended and inspections are resumed.
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Pathetic that you keep supporting the rights of people you admit are nasty. Why are you incapable of condemning Iran enriching t o 60% which has absolutely NO civilian purposes, hiding nuclear sites, and denying access to UN inspectors?


But we both know you want Iran to have nukes and destroy Israel with them.
 
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Pathetic that you keep supporting the rights of people you admit are nasty. Why are you incapable of condemning Iran enriching t o 60% which has absolutely NO civilian purposes, hiding nuclear sites, and denying access to UN inspectors?


But we both know you want Iran to have nukes and destroy Israel with them.
Frankie will cover his tracks by saying after Iran nukes Israel they should be taken to the ICC
 
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