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Iran still enriching to 60%

HungSowel

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So your argument is international treaties are pointless?

And yes, a country enriching to 60% deserves to be sanctioned the shit out of, NPT or not.
You are trying to thread a needle such that Israel can do whatever they want because of security concerns and Iran can not. Your hypocrisy is obvious and your best attempts to hide the obvious is also obvious.
 

basketcase

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You are trying to thread a needle such that Israel can do whatever they want because of security concerns and Iran can not. Your hypocrisy is obvious and your best attempts to hide the obvious is also obvious.
Sad that you have joined franky's pathetic agenda. Not everyone tries to connect everything to their pet obsession. In the real world the idea of morals isn't determined by geopolitical alliances.

If Iran wants to be a nuclear power then can but they will face the same kind of economic sanctions as North Korea.
 

basketcase

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Just establishing that your complaints about Iran are only based on your incredibly partisan views about Israel and not based working towards peace.
Israel should shut up about Iran and the NPT until they sign the treaty themselves.
You too.
Seems you're projecting your obsessive behaviour on others again. It seems morally disgusting that you are okay with Iran hiding nuclear material and enriching 200% beyond civilian needs.
 

HungSowel

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Sad that you have joined franky's pathetic agenda. Not everyone tries to connect everything to their pet obsession. In the real world the idea of morals isn't determined by geopolitical alliances.

If Iran wants to be a nuclear power then can but they will face the same kind of economic sanctions as North Korea.
I know that you know that I know that you know that Iran is already under heavy sanctions akin to North Korea.
 

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Sad that you have joined franky's pathetic agenda. Not everyone tries to connect everything to their pet obsession. In the real world the idea of morals isn't determined by geopolitical alliances.

If Iran wants to be a nuclear power then can but they will face the same kind of economic sanctions as North Korea.
I doubt iran will complete a nuke they will be stopped.
 
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basketcase

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I know that you know that I know that you know that Iran is already under heavy sanctions akin to North Korea.
That's not surprising since they are both engaged in similar amounts of nuclear enrichment.

If Iran wants to withdraw from the treaty they can but as long as they want to remain in the treaty, there is absolutely no justification for enriching to 60%.

If Iran wants nukes then their regional rival Saudi Arabia will want them. Hardly a situation that inspires optimism.
 

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Seems the IAEA has changed its description of Iran to no longer being able to verify Iran's nuclear program is peaceful.

Technical discussions between the IAEA and Iran have not yielded the expected results, and the lack of progress in clarifying the Agency’s questions concerning the correctness and completeness of Iran’s safeguards declarations seriously affects the ability of the IAEA to provide assurance of the peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear programme, Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi said today in his opening statement to the quarterly session of the IAEA Board of Governors.

 

Happyhomer

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What is wrong with Iran having nukes? I am sure that they would be very responsible with them. Iran is a stable peace-loving nation with strong, honest and accountable leadership. *green font*
 

Frankfooter

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Were you not able to understand the initial post or does your anti-nuclear agenda not see a problem with 60% enriched Uranium?
I see, so you think enriching to 60% is an 'extreme nuclear action' but you have no problem with a country stealing nuclear material, assassinating scientists or actually selling the bomb to an apartheid state.

As someone who is totally against Israel signing the NPT, you really have no right to say what any other country does while they are signed on.
 

basketcase

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I see, so you think enriching to 60% is an 'extreme nuclear action' ...
Yes. According to May's IAEA report, Iran already has enough enriched uranium for 3 bombs with a breakout time of 2.3 months. Why are you incapable of condemning them when even the UN agency in charge condemns them?

As I've said repeatedly, Iran can have nukes if they want but they should face the same consequences as North Korea.
 

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Yes. According to May's IAEA report, Iran already has enough enriched uranium for 3 bombs with a breakout time of 2.3 months. Why are you incapable of condemning them when even the UN agency in charge condemns them?

As I've said repeatedly, Iran can have nukes if they want but they should face the same consequences as North Korea.
Why, because Israel is trying to sabotage the US/Iran talks to reenter the JCPOA.
Iran is negotiating with what they have in their hands, but they are negotiating and have shown good faith.
Netanyahu, and you here, have argued for years for war with Iran.

Its almost like you want them to get the bomb to justify getting the US to attack them.
If you were against war and nuclear war you'd have started by demanding Israel sign the NPT and then arguing for Iran to rejoin the JCPOA, whose inspections made sure they weren't building nukes.
Instead you're against the NPT and treaties and sounds like you just want someone to attack Iran and soon.
 
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basketcase

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Why, because Israel is trying to sabotage the US/Iran talks to reenter the JCPOA.
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So once again you try to pretend Israel is all powerful and is forcing Iran to do what they're doing. Pathetic.

Iran is continuing to enrich to 60%, continuing to produce Uranium metal, continuing to install more centrifuges, continuing to ignore IAEA questions about illegal sites, continuing to deny IAEA access to verification videos. The IAEA has said they can no longer confirm Iran's nuclear program is peaceful

But here you are, so obsessed with Israel, that you happily accept Iran's actions in direct violation about your stated position on nuclear weapons.

p.s. the negotiators and IAEA say that Iran won't re-join the old deal (but I'm sure you'll claim Israel is making them say that).
 

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So once again you try to pretend Israel is all powerful and is forcing Iran to do what they're doing. Pathetic.

Iran is continuing to enrich to 60%, continuing to produce Uranium metal, continuing to install more centrifuges, continuing to ignore IAEA questions about illegal sites, continuing to deny IAEA access to verification videos. The IAEA has said they can no longer confirm Iran's nuclear program is peaceful

But here you are, so obsessed with Israel, that you happily accept Iran's actions in direct violation about your stated position on nuclear weapons.

p.s. the negotiators and IAEA say that Iran won't re-join the old deal (but I'm sure you'll claim Israel is making them say that).
Until you agree that Israel should also sign and abide by the NPT, your criticisms are to be ignored.
You're just warmongering to justify an attack on Iran instead of supporting signing treaties that will de-escalate.
 

basketcase

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Until you agree that Israel should also sign and abide by the NPT, your criticisms are to be ignored.
You're just warmongering to justify an attack on Iran instead of supporting signing treaties that will de-escalate.
Pathetic that you keep basing your world view on Israel. Sure, Israel should sign the NPT. You keep missing the fact that they were a nuclear power when the NPT was created so will be allowed to keep nukes.


What it telling about your obsession (other than the 18 hours a day you spend on terb) is you are happy Iran is doing all this shit simply because you think it harms Israel. Of course you dream of a world where Iran's Mullahs control nuclear weapons which will inevitably lead to MBS wanting his own.
 

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So once again you try to pretend Israel is all powerful and is forcing Iran to do what they're doing. Pathetic.

Iran is continuing to enrich to 60%, continuing to produce Uranium metal, continuing to install more centrifuges, continuing to ignore IAEA questions about illegal sites, continuing to deny IAEA access to verification videos. The IAEA has said they can no longer confirm Iran's nuclear program is peaceful

But here you are, so obsessed with Israel, that you happily accept Iran's actions in direct violation about your stated position on nuclear weapons.

p.s. the negotiators and IAEA say that Iran won't re-join the old deal (but I'm sure you'll claim Israel is making them say that).
Don’t forget Frankie believes Israel controls Iran and Egypt you can’t forget Egypt.

there was a man who in the 1930s and 40s believed the Jews controlled everything too….
 
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basketcase

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So why so many threads only on why Iran should re sign the 'voluntary additional protocols' and none on why Israel should at least sign the NPT at all?
One thread is "so many"?

But sure, keep up being against nuclear proliferation except when they hate Israel's existence as much as you do.


There is no rational excuse for Iran to enrich to 60%. Thankfully for you, you never worry about morals.
 

Frankfooter

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But sure, keep up being against nuclear proliferation except when they hate Israel's existence as much as you do.
I'm all for Iran and Israel both signing the NPT and both being held to additional protocols.
Why won't you join me to stand against nuclear proliferation.

You should also take a stand against nuclear terrorism, states attempting to blow up nuclear facilities and assassinating scientists.
 
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basketcase

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I'm all for Iran and Israel both signing the NPT and both being held to additional protocols.
Why won't you join me to stand against nuclear proliferation.
Against nuclear proliferation while making excuses for Iran enriching Uranium 20 times more than regular civilian use.
 
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