Is The Israeli Flag the New Confederate Flag?

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Umm, are you ignoring the fact that Israel has been occupying Palestine for 53 years now?
That Israel has wiped Palestine off the map and forced Palestinians to live under a brutal, apartheid, military rule?
The occupation started 30 years before Hamas ever existed, right?

Why are you blaming Hamas for something that started 30 years before they existed?

Frank once AGAIN defending a designated terrorist group hamas
 

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You support them...in fact you justify their actions ....because Israel.
I know, you guys like to blame Hamas for imaginary beheadings, 9/11, Covid, the Jan 6 coup attempt and for apartheid, the occupation and just being in Gaza forcing Israel to kill thousands in case they were hiding under Palestinian kid's pillows or something.

Then, when I say 'that's really stupid' you guys go 'see, he's a Hamas supporter'.
So silly.

Hamas are bad, take the to the ICC.
Israel is bad, take them to the ICC and let them sort out who is responsible for killing more civilians, the occupation, apartheid and the blockade.
 
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I know, you guys like to blame Hamas for imaginary beheadings, 9/11, Covid, the Jan 6 coup attempt and for apartheid, the occupation and just being in Gaza forcing Israel to kill thousands in case they were hiding under Palestinian kid's pillows or something.

Then, when I say 'that's really stupid' you guys go 'see, he's a Hamas supporter'.
So silly.

Hamas are bad, take the to the ICC.
Israel is bad, take them to the ICC and let them sort out who is responsible for killing more civilians, the occupation, apartheid and the blockade.
Israel don't kill civilians at will...during war, civilian casualties are what you consider collateral damage...in fact with Israel's military prowess and technology (that can beat 3-4 neighbors in case they get hostile) Why are there Palestinians...if they're so bound on "killing" Palestinians...why are Palestinians still able to riot? because none of those links you post are factual...they are product of propaganda...in short- Bullshit.
 

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Israel don't kill civilians at will...during war, civilian casualties are what you consider collateral damage...in fact with Israel's military prowess and technology (that can beat 3-4 neighbors in case they get hostile) Why are there Palestinians...if they're so bound on "killing" Palestinians...why are Palestinians still able to riot? because none of those links you post are factual...they are product of propaganda...in short- Bullshit.
This is an imaginary video of Israeli settlers and Israel police acting in concert to abuse Palestinians. Just like the old south.

 

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Israel don't kill civilians at will...during war, civilian casualties are what you consider collateral damage...in fact with Israel's military prowess and technology (that can beat 3-4 neighbors in case they get hostile) Why are there Palestinians...if they're so bound on "killing" Palestinians...why are Palestinians still able to riot? because none of those links you post are factual...they are product of propaganda...in short- Bullshit.
Israel kills 10x as many civilians as Palestinians.
During the Great March of Return Israel intentionally targeted civilian protesters, using snipers on the other side of the Gaza prison walls to shoot them from a safe distance every Friday for a year.
The ICC is presently investigating those killings and the 2014 slaughter, hopefully along with Israeli apartheid and the illegal settlements.

Check the real stats.

This is daily life under Israeli apartheid, with armed 'settlers' backed by the IDF attacking and shooting civilian Palestinians.
Its the occupation that is causing the violence, not the resistance.
 
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Israel kills 10x as many civilians as Palestinians.
During the Great March of Return Israel intentionally targeted civilian protesters, using snipers on the other side of the Gaza prison walls to shoot them from a safe distance every Friday for a year.
The ICC is presently investigating those killings and the 2014 slaughter, hopefully along with Israeli apartheid and the illegal settlements.

Check the real stats.

This is daily life under Israeli apartheid, with armed 'settlers' backed by the IDF attacking and shooting civilian Palestinians.
Its the occupation that is causing the violence, not the resistance.
first civilian deaths are 100% the fault of the terrorist cowards hamas who hide behind women and children and use civilian buildings to launch attacks

second how stupid are these people? lets try and rush the border of another country in an attempt to kill jews and every week they get shot yet they do it again and again

every country is 100% allowed to use force to defend its border

franks use of the terrorist hamas name for the border attacks just shows his continued support of terrorists
 

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“A freedom fighter learns the hard way that it is the oppressor who defines the nature of the struggle, and the oppressed is often left no recourse but to use methods that mirror those of the oppressor.”

‘[o]ver and over again, we had used all the non-violent weapons in our arsenal – speeches, deputations, threats, marches, strikes, stay-aways, voluntary imprisonment – all to no avail, for whatever we did was met by an iron hand’

Nelson Mandela (1918-2013)
 
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“A freedom fighter learns the hard way that it is the oppressor who defines the nature of the struggle, and the oppressed is often left no recourse but to use methods that mirror those of the oppressor.”

‘[o]ver and over again, we had used all the non-violent weapons in our arsenal – speeches, deputations, threats, marches, strikes, stay-aways, voluntary imprisonment – all to no avail, for whatever we did was met by an iron hand’

Nelson Mandela (1918-2013)
you two just keep supporting designated terrorists hamas you are both terrorist supporters you make excuses for them and defend them again and again

I do hope CSIS takes an interest in your support of terror groups maybe it should be brought to their attention?
 

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Well Jews are people too. And there are many extremely well educated jews who do not accept hypocrisy and believe in equal rights for all.
Of course in your view, not accepting hypocrisy and equal rights involve making excuses for Hamas terrorism, blaming the parents of victims of Hamas, and demanding the Palestinians accept an idea supported by only 6%. In essence, you and franky complaining about equal rights is farcical when you deny the Palestinians their right to reject the unworkable idea of starting with a One State. A couple generations of peace between Israel and Palestine may result in some kind of economic union but as of now, the Palestinians (who you pretend to support) hate the idea.
 

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there's no international support...only way to achieve peace is removing Hamas...US, Canada and the rest of the world knows who the real problem is in the region...
Franky wants to pretend hamas rejecting the concept of peace shouldn't interfere with demanding Israel make peace.
 

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Really, as a Palestinian?
yes. I know you guys hate listening to Palestinians when they interfere with your agenda but poll after poll has most Israeli Arabs wanting to remain Israeli in a Two State peace.
 

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Knee capping is better than beheadings that your beloved Hamas seems eager to do to any Israeli they can get their hands on...and stop spreading propaganda...that never happened...
Wait, are you saying Franky is a hypocrite and displays a transparently racist double standard?

But he's lucky in this conflict because not only is he obsessed with Israel existing, he seems to think Palestinians aren't capable enough to deserve criticism.
 

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Umm, are you ignoring the fact that Israel has been occupying Palestine for 53 years now?
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Again you're trying to pretend it's Israel's fault that the PLO refused to make peace and when they started to become a little more moderate, Hamas broke away to continue the demand for a Islamic, Jew free caliphate.
 
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Of course in your view, not accepting hypocrisy and equal rights involve making excuses for Hamas terrorism, blaming the parents of victims of Hamas, and demanding the Palestinians accept an idea supported by only 6%. In essence, you and franky complaining about equal rights is farcical when you deny the Palestinians their right to reject the unworkable idea of starting with a One State. A couple generations of peace between Israel and Palestine may result in some kind of economic union but as of now, the Palestinians (who you pretend to support) hate the idea.
I am not demanding anything. Its really up to them in the end, but that is how I see the scenario unfolding. Yes if you send you children to a city where a civil war is ongoing, to represent an extreme element of that civil war, and they end up getting killed by one of the parties in that war, then YES you have failed to protect your children and stupidly sent them into harms way. Its not like the ENTIRE WORLD didn't know about it. Yes Hamas exists becaused of oppression just like the ANC arose out of oppression. Many people including jews see the reality and truth of this.
 

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I love how you need to avoid actual discussion by stupidly claiming this.
I love how you think that even when 45% of Israelis agree with HRW, the UN and B'tselem and say Israel is apartheid, you still pretend its imaginary.
 
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