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mandrill

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then perhaps we need more like the us system where for a crime you describe above you spend decades in jail

you get x amount for drug crimes then added on for each additional crime no deals no pleas, full penalty

we need to gain control now or lose it forever these thugs are getting bolder and bolder
The War on Drugs has certainly stopped Americans using drugs, hasn't it?

Those long sentences work a treat!
 

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then perhaps we need more like the us system where for a crime you describe above you spend decades in jail

you get x amount for drug crimes then added on for each additional crime no deals no pleas, full penalty

we need to gain control now or lose it forever these thugs are getting bolder and bolder
Actually I think legalization, decriminalization and treating addiction as a health issue and not a criminal matter is the better option. Hella cheaper too. Legalize it and the criminals are out of business.

But gun crime? Now that should be one where they roast them.
 

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The War on Drugs has certainly stopped Americans using drugs, hasn't it?

Those long sentences work a treat!
they do

please tell me how YOU would shoot up a childs birthday party if you were serving a 50 year sentence? its pretty hard to shoot anyone when your serving time in a penitentiary
 
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Actually I think legalization, decriminalization and treating addiction as a health issue and not a criminal matter is the better option. Hella cheaper too. Legalize it and the criminals are out of business.

But gun crime? Now that should be one where they roast them.
legal weed has NOT put a dent in criminal control of it if anything its made it easier
 
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legal weed has NOT put a dent in criminal control of it if anything its made it easier
Um. What it and Covid did was in fact make the dealers fight over a much smaller slice of the pie. And when it all opens again that slice will be smaller. It was only just legalized. It takes time to get rid of it all. And there is a business still to smuggle to the usa in exchange for guns. As they legaluze there that market will dry up.

The dealers are also selling Meth, Coke, MDMA, Heroin, Fentynal, etc. But criminalizing possession results in less going for rehab. Studies have shown this. Look up Portugal and what they are doing.

It does work.
 

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Um. What it and Covid did was in fact make the dealers fight over a much smaller slice of the pie. And when it all opens again that slice will be smaller. It was only just legalized. It takes time to get rid of it all. And there is a business still to smuggle to the usa in exchange for guns. As they legaluze there that market will dry up.

The dealers are also selling Meth, Coke, MDMA, Heroin, Fentynal, etc. But criminalizing possession results in less going for rehab. Studies have shown this. Look up Portugal and what they are doing.

It does work.
I disagree why would you buy legal weed from the government its inferior and way more expensive then buying from your regular "criminal" dealer
 

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I disagree why would you buy legal weed from the government its inferior and way more expensive then buying from your regular "criminal" dealer
Because it isn't inferior, more choice, a full line of edibles and lots of people actually prefer to buy legal. Why do you think so many are in business?

Wait five years. The market will settle, prices will drop and the dealers will be limited to a few late night at the club business. Hell the clubs may get licensed by then and then run them out too.
 

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Because it isn't inferior, more choice, a full line of edibles and lots of people actually prefer to buy legal. Why do you think so many are in business?

Wait five years. The market will settle, prices will drop and the dealers will be limited to a few late night at the club business. Hell the clubs may get licensed by then and then run them out too.
maybe but the price wont drop it will go up the government will tax it and tax it like they do with booze
 
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Sure.....how many bootleggers do you see operating? Thats the point.
tons guy next door smokes everyday he told me he bought once from legal store never again crappy product and too expensive so he buys black market

hell I can legally grow 3 plants per property I own so I can grow many plants and sell it if I wanted to the selling is against the law but growing is legal

here is one I found in a 1 second search

Police bust grow-op in northern Ontario, seize $12M in illegal cannabis | CTV News

so the illegal market has not been touched
 

NotADcotor

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Remember according to BLM, silence is violence and silence is compliance.
Little kids being shot. Where are the mass demonstrations going on for weeks, where is the wide spread rage.

Their own words. BLM doesn't give a fuck about black people, they are in fact complaint in their deaths and part of the violence.

BLM is built on a pile of bullshit and too many people are terrified to look into or report on it because they might be called racist.
Black people are 2.5 times more likely to be killed by pork, but they are also 2.5 times more likely to commit non lethal violent crime and about 4 times more likely to MDK... thankfully for them BLM doesn't think BLM.


Actually Bagilson, I think everybody's life matters and murder is bad no matter who does it and who the victim is.
Really, everybody? I donno, I think Hitler did a pretty good thing when he killed Hitler. Pity he didn't do it a couple of decades earlier.
Godwin's Law for the win.
 

Butler1000

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People bootleg alcohol and smuggle both alcohol and cigs

Why do you think legalization could possibly put a weed dealer out of biz?


Fuck here article from 2021 about government concern over Canadian bootlegging

Bootlegging as in bathtub gin. As in moonshine. As in prohibition. Cripes I bring back multi bottles from the USA on trips. But its legally created product.
 

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tons guy next door smokes everyday he told me he bought once from legal store never again crappy product and too expensive so he buys black market

hell I can legally grow 3 plants per property I own so I can grow many plants and sell it if I wanted to the selling is against the law but growing is legal

here is one I found in a 1 second search

Police bust grow-op in northern Ontario, seize $12M in illegal cannabis | CTV News

so the illegal market has not been touched
For now.

Its only been a year(covid bring a disruption) Come back in 5-10 and look at the market.
 

NotADcotor

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As I understand it wrt weed [I don't use so don't care much] the roll out was pretty much a pile of vomit and human feces.
If they allowed places that sold tobacco to sell it to sell weed from day one I'd suspect the black market would be much less.

Also selling something legally but taxing the fuck out of it isn't much different from just making it illegal. As I understand it, a very sizable percentage of smokes in the province are black market. It isn't a failure of legalization, it's legal barriers via other means.
 

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So black on black crime is not white men's concern, but if white man says "ok then, let them kill each other " Charle will be screaming racism.

Yet according to Charle, black on black crime is white men's fault.

It shouldn't be black or white issue. It should be criminal against citizen issue.
People of color are margalized into "bad areas" due to socio-economics reasons.

Butler has no idea why people react the way they do, because he does know what it's like to live in an area where gangs have control.

 
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Charlemagne

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Someone ask Canada-man why his people tend to be the usual suspects in these types of cases.
 

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Bootlegging as in bathtub gin. As in moonshine. As in prohibition. Cripes I bring back multi bottles from the USA on trips. But its legally created product.
Smuggling alcohol is same diff as smuggling tobacco or weed
Which is what you seem to think legalizing will somehow eliminate

Other poster was even laughing at your naivety in thinking state sponsored weed could ever possibly get cheaper
 

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One of the guys arrested so far has firearms prohibition orders already which means he’s done this before which reinforces my position that if he was in jail for decades this wouldn’t of happened
 
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Butler1000

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Smuggling alcohol is same diff as smuggling tobacco or weed
Which is what you seem to think legalizing will somehow eliminate

Other poster was even laughing at your naivety in thinking state sponsored weed could ever possibly get cheaper
Just wait. The dealers are now cutting into the govt cut. You think they are going to take that from a bunch of street punks?
 
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