No, Israel is not a settler colonial state, and here's why
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Because she’s an amateur. But she did parrot the comical hasbara talking points that the pro Israel crowd was weaned on.
That is never going to happen. The Palestinians leaders are profiting off the conflict and the chaos. From another site:
-Khalid Mashaal (the leader of Hamas who now lives in Qatar) is worth an estimated $12 billion.
-Yasser Arafat’s wife and daughter both live in Paris and are worth an estimated $6 billion.
-Ismail Hanieh (another Hamas leader) is worth an estimated $3.5 billion.
-Mahmoud Abbas is worth an estimated $1.5 billion.
Despicable. Why would they want peace?
This coming from a guy who threw a tantrum because I used Wiki as a source of facts a few weeks ago on Naomi Wolf.
National Newspapers exist to sell copy. The crazier and more extreme an opinion piece - as opposed to actual hard news reporting - the more it gets argued and dissected and the more copies of the paper get sold. It's economics.
If a country conquers an adjacent territory and keep it for over 50 years, I think the conquering country have a responsibility to treat the conquered people the same as citizens. Certainly, the historic precedence in Europe has been to make people in conquered territories citizens.
I think it is a legal technicality not to call it Apartheid if the conquered people are not given the same right as citizens after that long time. Two generations of people have been born, and grown up after being conquered.
I think it is a legal technicality not to call it Apartheid if the conquered people are not given the same right as citizens after that long time. Two generations of people have been born, and grown up after being conquered.
You might want to work on your memory skills I didn’t throw a Tantrum that would be you anytime someone comments on any legal matter because you believe you’re the only one here qualified. I believe it was several months ago not weeks.
if you don’t like opinions then don’t give yours don’t even bother logging in because this form is somewhere people give opinions.
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Israel did not conquer the West Bank. Jordan did in 1948, occupied it including the East Jerusalem. It engaged in the wholesale destruction of everything Jewish including the places of worship, destroyed the Jewish Quarter, expelled the Jews and even destroyed Jewish cemeteries. It denied Jews access to the holy sites and demanded a certificate of baptism from tourists to make sure that no Jewish foot will ever cross the line. Anti sniper walls had to be erected to prevent the Arabs from shooting into Jewish areas and the border had to be constantly watched to prevent the Arab raids into Israel. In 1967 Jordan lost the West Bank in their war of aggression and disenfranchised the Arabs living there. Unlike Jordan, Israel did not expel the Arabs and even left the mosque in the Temple Mount untouched. In retrospect, a mistake.
What is your point? That the West Bank has always been part of Israel?
You just proved Apartheid.
Just reminding you how Jordanians became the stateless, poor Palestinians. And no, West Bank is not(yet) Israel proper, so the Arabs there are not living under apartheid.
Now your point is that the Israelis in the west bank are colonial settlers on Jordanian territory.
Your story has holes big enough that you can drive a Mack truck through them.
Some strange details in your account. For example, you said the Jewish Quarter was destroyed….but it still exists. Maybe you exaggerated. I know many buildings were destroyed but I also know that the Haganah were using civilian structures to hide….you neglected to mention that.
Perhaps you can let us know what happened to the Moroccan Quarter and it’s residents immediately after Israeli troop captured Jerusalem.
LOL!!!! The destruction of the Jewish synagogues in the Jordan occupied Jerusalem is a historical fact. There were no fighters in them. Arabs destroyed them after the war ended. Nice try at revisionism.
Why are you evading? I asked you about Haganah members taking shelter in civilian structures that were destroyed. You said the Jewish Quarter was destroyed, but it wasn’t. Why exaggerate?
What happened to the Moroccan Quarter immediately after Israel took control.
Since you decided to bring up synagogues, why don’t you tell us about the Hurva synagogue and how it was used as a military position by the Haganah.
You are being given a chance to come clean. Don’t waste it.
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I'm not playing your antisemite games. There was no fighting and no fighters in the East Jerusalem after the Jordanian take over.
Israel and Jordan have made peace already and Jordan ceded control of the land to Israel until a Palestinian state was negotiated. Also worth noting that Palestinians overwhelmingly don't want to be Israeli.
Funny that a guy who talks about anti-colonial ideas is a European trying to tell other people what they should want.
p.s. Terms have meaning. If you want to criticize the fact that Israel doesn't treat citizens and non-citizens the same then go ahead but it is incorrect to call it Apartheid.
Speaking of evading, why are you not wanting to discuss that Jordan forced every Jew out of territory they conquered at gunpoint? it is worth mentioning that the British led Jordanian army did make some effort to protect captured Jews from Arab militias when they captured 'settlements' but it was absolutely an ethnic cleansing.
We can also discuss how Jordan gave citizenship to West Bank Arabs before revoking it after the PLO went after Jordan's foreign leadership.
Obviously the war in 1948/49 was a nasty conflict but it is dumb to not admit that there were problems on both sides.
Hmmmm. Sound suspiciously like whataboutism. You should look up the definition. You are too funny.
