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Qatari Red Crescent office bombed by Isreal

toguy5252

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You are aware that your source say it was a Qatari Red Cross office, not a hospital right? You also ignored that this source says it was "CLOSE TO" a medical clinic. That doesn't stop you from claiming that Israel is targeting hospitals.
Of course he knows. He has conceded on another thread that a hospital was not bombed. he is a completely dishonest poster at least when it comes to Israel.
 

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Tell us where you had this experience.
2 + years Iraq

as an example approx 50% of mosques had significant arms cashes almost all had some weapons many were used by the militias as defense points due to thick walls but no match for air armor (usually bradley) or artillery

most of the fighting was in civilian buildings depending on what part of the city
 

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You made a claim now back it up
No, targeting hospitals, school, media outlets and media outlets are all recognized as war crimes by the Geneva Convention and fit the definition of 'terrorism' of deliberately targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure. That's a given.

The only way that its not terrorism is if the IDF proves they were legit targets with serious evidence and not just press releases.

Its like if someone was a gun nut and used one of their multiple, illegal, semi automatics to shoot someone here in Canada then you've committed murder and you'd have to provide evidence yourself that there was some justification for it because the evidence would show you as a gun collecting murderer. You would have to prove it. Just saying you thought it was a Palestinian isn't enough. Similarly, if you were seen by the CRA to be a freeloading tax evader who moved around their assets and incomes to avoid taxes, you'd have to prove to the CRA that you weren't.

In this case Israel clearly fired weapons that hit schools, hospitals, media outlets and residential towers and buildings. All of which individually are war crimes and terrorism.
And until Israel has proven that those were legit targets and didn't result in disproportionate violence to civilians, they are committing war crimes and acting as terrorists.

Its not me, its Israel and Netanyahu that now have to prove they are not terrorists.

So stop defending terrorism.
Stop defending apartheid
 

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2 + years Iraq

as an example approx 50% of mosques had significant arms cashes almost all had some weapons many were used by the militias as defense points due to thick walls but no match for air armor (usually bradley) or artillery

most of the fighting was in civilian buildings depending on what part of the city
Thats hard to believe. No Western military gives such blanket approval to use military force. Especially a low level foot soldier.
 

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Thats hard to believe. No Western military gives such blanket approval to use military force. Especially a low level foot soldier. You don’t strike me as the sharpest pencil.
blanket approval once you had PID you were good to go

you had approval to fire on anything if the enemy was using it for military purposes we were not supposed to destroy infrastructure unless in defense or to engage enemy but try and limit damage if possible

use of force was allowed to protect yourself your unit and friendly forces


I never claimed I called anything in I watched it happen many times you radio it in if approved they send support depending on what if any is available

how many years in the military were you?
 
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Of course they are known to hide weapons in schools and certain other places that the Palestinians children and families have then paid the price. Hamas is considered to be a terrorist organization by the EU, USA, Japan, Canada and Israel. Others like Australia and New Zealand consider only it's military wing to be a terrorists. All the other nations ensured that the UN General Assembly do not recognize it to be a terrorist Org but a Representative of The Gaza. But remember that Menachim Begin the former PM and his Irgun Organization were designated as terrorists by The Occupying Britain. Yet he became the PM. Similarly The PLO was also a designated terrorist organization by Israel and The USA. But funny enough The UN still considers them as a Representing the Palestinians. So this is all political crap. All that the majority of people around the Globe want this whole crisis to be resolved. Hamas and Israel both have to be condemned for using those bombs / jets and only the citizens have to pay the price for it. When are you going to condemn Israel as well in the manner in which they have bombed civilian homes and for Fundamentalist reasons evicted Palestinians who have been living in that region for decades and not known to be involved in any acts of violence??
I'm not asking UN's opinion, I'm asking your opinion...Hamas, fires rockets from heavily populated areas using civilians as shields, firing rockets AT civilians without legit targets, wants all Jews dead...what do you think is their end game? Are they terrorists or not, what's your take?
 

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I'm not asking UN's opinion, I'm asking your opinion...Hamas, fires rockets from heavily populated areas using civilians as shields, firing rockets AT civilians without legit targets, wants all Jews dead...what do you think is their end game? Are they terrorists or not, what's your take?
Obviously Freedom Fighters.

Who can have any doubts? Unless you want to play ostrich and pretend you don’t know the real reasons.
 

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Obviously Freedom Fighters.

Who can have any doubts? Unless you want to play ostrich and pretend you don’t know the real reasons.
So the only way to achieve their freedom is to annihilate the Jews?
 
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I'm not asking UN's opinion, I'm asking your opinion...Hamas, fires rockets from heavily populated areas using civilians as shields, firing rockets AT civilians without legit targets, wants all Jews dead...what do you think is their end game? Are they terrorists or not, what's your take?
In my opinion you post hateful nonsense that's not close to reality.

Hamas offered a ceasefire about a week ago but Netanyahu refused.
He wanted to keep killing.

 

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I'm not asking UN's opinion, I'm asking your opinion...Hamas, fires rockets from heavily populated areas using civilians as shields, firing rockets AT civilians without legit targets, wants all Jews dead...what do you think is their end game? Are they terrorists or not, what's your take?
As I mentioned if you consider Israel to have voted a terrorist like Menachim Begin as a PM and acknowledge it, then yes Hamas are a terrorist group as well.
So are we on the same page as well in that respect??

Gideon Levy is a Jewish Journalist. He is not afraid to speak the truth:

Is Gideon Levy the most hated man in Israel or just the most heroic?
For three decades, the writer and journalist Gideon Levy has been a lone voice, telling his readers the truth about what goes on in the Occupied Territories.

 
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From CBC:
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It's funny to see you post an article that says:
Hamas began firing rockets eight days ago in retaliation for what it said were Israeli rights abuses against Palestinians in Jerusalem. The current hostilities are the most serious between the militant group and Israel in years.
But you're happy to ignore anything you don't like.
 

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It's funny to see you post an article that says:
Hamas began firing rockets eight days ago in retaliation for what it said were Israeli rights abuses against Palestinians in Jerusalem. The current hostilities are the most serious between the militant group and Israel in years.
But you're happy to ignore anything you don't like.
Yes, like I said.
They acted in response to the evictions in Jerusalem followed by Israel's repeated attacks on Al Aqsa, as the quote you used says.

Thanks for confirming I'm right again.
 

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Except you admitted that Israel wasn't. Your own sources admit the sites were damaged by attacks close by.
No they didn't.
20 media outlets were deliberately destroyed.
14 families were wiped out entirely in their homes.
multiple hospitals, 50 schools.

The state terrorism of Israel is by far worse a crime than Hamas'.
That's the reason why you and Israel refuse to bring in the ICC, because you all know that Israel is in far deeper shite.
Not to mention apartheid.

 
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