Crazy footage of Hamas rocket attack on Tel Aviv

richaceg

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The board is very lucky to have on official spokesperson for Hamas here to represent their views.
You think I'm wrong? Tell me what's the end game for Hamas.Tell me they are moving towards peace with Israel...
 

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You think I'm wrong?
Yes.

I think there are racists and zealots on both sides but like basketcase said, most just want to get on with their lives.
Instead the people of Gaza have been living under near starvation levels for over a decade, with wars on them every few years.

You think they'd rather be out getting shot at or be able to live freely and peacefully?

This was a 'protester' from the Great March of Return in 2019. He was later shot and killed by Israeli snipers.
Kind of representative of the Gaza, don't you think?

That's why I support sanctions to end apartheid instead of more war and death on both sides.




 

richaceg

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Yes.

I think there are racists and zealots on both sides but like basketcase said, most just want to get on with their lives.
Instead the people of Gaza have been living under near starvation levels for over a decade, with wars on them every few years.

You think they'd rather be out getting shot at or be able to live freely and peacefully?

This was a 'protester' from the Great March of Return in 2019. He was later shot and killed by Israeli snipers.
Kind of representative of the Gaza, don't you think?

That's why I support sanctions to end apartheid instead of more war and death on both sides.




so you think hamas will move towards peace with Israel?
 

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This is the latest update as to the homeless as a result of the senseless bombings from the UN Special Coordinator:

U.N. Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process Tor Wennesland said Sunday that at least 181 Palestinians, including 52 children, have been killed and 1,200 injured in airstrikes. At least 34,000 have been left homeless. In Israel, nine Israelis, including two children, and one Indian national were killed, and over 250 injured, he said.

Really sad that something that is avoidable such as these senseless bombings on both sides really requires all the nations around the world to pressure them to come to a permanent ceasefire truce. Very sickening that children and families had to pay the price for it and are the real victims. This decades old issue with a Stateless Palestinian homeland is the most pathetic failure of the UN, and NATO countries to not impose their influence to resolve it once and for all.
 

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This is the latest update as to the homeless as a result of the senseless bombings from the UN Special Coordinator:




Really sad that something that is avoidable such as these senseless bombings on both sides really requires all the nations around the world to pressure them to come to a permanent ceasefire truce. Very sickening that children and families had to pay the price for it and are the real victims. This decades old issue with a Stateless Palestinian homeland is the most pathetic failure of the UN, and NATO countries to not impose their influence to resolve it once and for all.
Your numbers are sadly a bit older.
Mine are from Al J and the middleasteye


About half of the deaths in Gaza have been to women, children and the elderly. All deaths on both sides are tragedies, but Gaza is suffering through 20x the number of deaths and way more injuries.

What's different this time is that the leaders are being accosted by constituents and party members like this, Tlaib just confronted Biden after Biden wished her grandmother in the West Bank well.

 
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No, its not in the new charter.
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Interesting. You say Israel is apartheid because a meaningless clause saying Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people but you have no issue with Hamas declaring all of historic Palestine to be not just Palestinian land but Islamic land. It also quite clearly says they will continue the "resistance" (what Canada defines as terrorism) until they have freed the land from "zionists".


1. The Islamic Resistance Movement “Hamas” is a Palestinian Islamic national liberation and resistance movement. Its goal is to liberate Palestine and confront the Zionist project. Its frame of reference is Islam, which determines its principles, objectives and means.

The Land of Palestine
2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah in the north to Umm al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

3. Palestine is an Arab Islamic land. It is a blessed sacred land that has a special place in the heart of every Arab and every Muslim.
 

basketcase

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There was no conflict in Gaza until Netanyahu ordered the Al Aqsa stormed repeatedly and the evictions of Palestinians to continue in Jerusalem.
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So once again you argue against your rights groups and claim that Hamas rockets are a legitimate response to evictions and breaking up a riot.

And just a week or two ago you kept claiming you never tried to justify the terror rockets.
 

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Interesting. You say Israel is apartheid because a meaningless clause saying Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people but you have no issue with Hamas declaring all of historic Palestine to be not just Palestinian land but Islamic land. It also quite clearly says they will continue the "resistance" (what Canada defines as terrorism) until they have freed the land from "zionists".


1. The Islamic Resistance Movement “Hamas” is a Palestinian Islamic national liberation and resistance movement. Its goal is to liberate Palestine and confront the Zionist project. Its frame of reference is Islam, which determines its principles, objectives and means.

The Land of Palestine
2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah in the north to Umm al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.

3. Palestine is an Arab Islamic land. It is a blessed sacred land that has a special place in the heart of every Arab and every Muslim.
Its no different from the Likud Charter, Netanyahu's charter.
And this whataboutism is tiring.
Why can't you articulate a way forward, why can you only justify bombing people and treating them like subhumans?

a. “The Jordan river will be the permanent eastern border of the State of Israel.”

b. “Jerusalem is the eternal, united capital of the State of Israel and only of Israel.
The government will flatly reject Palestinian proposals to divide Jerusalem”

c. “The Government of Israel flatly rejects the establishment of a Palestinian Arab state west of the Jordan river.”

d. “The Jewish communities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza are the realization of Zionist values. Settlement of the land is a clear expression of the unassailable right of the Jewish people to the Land of Israel and constitutes an important asset in the defense of the vital interests of the State of Israel. The Likud will continue to strengthen and develop these communities and will prevent their uprooting.
 
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