What’s with all the attitude by SP’s

Jasmina

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Honestly, if I got a weird vibe or found the texter offputting, I would just block and move on. No need to send info if I have no intention of meeting them. Was that harsh? Meh, maybe but this is our bodies and our peace of mind. I didn't take needless chances and my instincts were usually right. The couple times I went against them were baaad experiences. That's probably the one message I would pass on to newcomers to the business, TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS.

I encourage ladies to use text replacement on their phones.

You create an acronym and phrase. Then when you type acronym, the phrase types out automatically. It saves you from having to type your rates and services over and over and you can type them out in one nice polite response and no matter how annoyed you are, you come across as customer oriented and polite.

Won’t work for all questions but will for the most frequently asked ones. Rates, services, locations, hours working, restrictions and an all booked/not working/not available message. To list a few.
 

Robert Mugabe

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So it turns out SP's are just like women. who knew? Feel like that song by the Byrds. To everything is a season. Turn Turn Turn. Just lost my bestist. Best woman ever. She got sick of me and kicked me to the curb. Won't find another like her. Talk about attitude. Beeeotch.
 
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Jasmina

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Aww, sorry to hear you are going through that. It sucks!

So it turns out SP's are just like women. who knew? Feel like that song by the Byrds. To everything is a season. Turn Turn Turn. Just lost my bestist. Best woman ever. She got sick of me and kicked me to the curb. Won't find another like her. Talk about attitude. Beeeotch.
 

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...Yada, Yada TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS.
No, trust your intuition. This is learned behavior. Humans don't have instincts.

Instinctive behavior is present at birth, (unacquired), complex, (as opposed to a reflex), unlearned, (inherited genetically), possessed by all members of the species, and automatic, (no conscious thought is required).

A living being cannot have both instincts and free will.
 
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Jasmina

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Instinct: an innate, typically fixed pattern of behavior in animals in response to certain stimuli.

Such as beig able to sense and react to predators.

Check.

No, trust your intuition. This is learned behavior. Humans don't have instincts.

Instinctive behavior is present at birth, (unacquired), complex, (as opposed to a reflex), unlearned, (inherited genetically), possessed by all members of the species, and automatic, (no conscious thought is required).

A living being cannot have both instincts and free will.
 

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Honestly, if I got a weird vibe or found the texter offputting, I would just block and move on. No need to send info if I have no intention of meeting them. Was that harsh? Meh, maybe but this is our bodies and our peace of mind. I didn't take needless chances and my instincts were usually right. The couple times I went against them were baaad experiences. That's probably the one message I would pass on to newcomers to the business, TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS.
Oh I agree move on and block and to trust your gut.

I was speaking more about avoiding getting annoyed and burn out of consistently reply the same thing over and over.

Also, you can politely decline some appointments that have nothing to do with bad feelings. Text replacement helps with that.

I personally can not imagine typing out “me rates are Xxx and Yyy” 20 thousand times a day. Especially when the price is in the ad or on the website. I just know I would get annoyed easily so this would help that for me. Figure it would help for others.
 
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Instinct: an innate, typically fixed pattern of behavior in animals in response to certain stimuli.

Such as beig able to sense and react to predators.

Check.
You weren't born with that ability; it was acquired through experience. You needed to learn what a predator is before you could be wary of them. Animals with that instinct, like a squirrel, are born with that ability. A dog doesn't have that instinct; little puppies want to be friends with everyone. Little kids that grow up in a loving home have to be taught to not immediately trust an adult whom they don't know. You know the red flags in a text or phone conversation because most predatory people have a similar modus operandi.

Many women, (and feminine men), interpret language based on keywords, tone of voice, or body language in face to face conversations, or the other person's emotional reaction to a verbal stimulus. Masculine man to masculine man conversations tend to be exchanges of information where the content of what's spoken is much more important than the presentation. Knowledge is power, so a masculine man will listen to another, if the other is sharing useful information. He'll tune out the other guy if he doesn't know anything of value, or just wants to share his emotional state. Guys really don't care how other guys whom they don't know are feeling, but they'll prick up their ears if a stranger tells them how to unclasp a bra with one hand, provided that they didn't already know.
 

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Meh, maybe but this is our bodies and our peace of mind. I didn't take needless chances and my instincts were usually right. The couple times I went against them were baaad experiences. That's probably the one message I would pass on to newcomers to the business, TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS.
Funny thing about this statement...applies to both parties...in context...
 

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The bottom line is that people need to take accountability for what comes out of their own mouth. Both on the SP and the client side.

Making excuses doesn't cut it.
 
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Funny thing about this statement...applies to both parties...in context...
A lot in this industry applies to both sides. Which is part of the struggle and why there is such an “us vrs them” thing that happens.
 

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A lot in this industry applies to both sides. Which is part of the struggle and why there is such an “us vrs them” thing that happens.
There will always be...there are bad apples on both sides...not everything is a cake walk and there will always be an unsatisfied party on both sides...I commend hobbyists that toftt to see new providers and SW that risk it all to see new clients because there are risks involved...
 
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There will always be...there are bad apples on both sides...not everything is a cake walk and there will always be an unsatisfied party on both sides...I commend hobbyists that toftt to see new providers and SW that risk it all to see new clients because there are risks involved...
Soooooo commend them. Totally agree. I don’t think I could do it.

I mean seeing new clients with no screening. And if I was a guy - there is no way I would TOFTT. Even reading reviews, you still don’t always know what you are going to get on the other side of the door.

It is a scary world on both sides. I totally agree.
 
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Occasionally have encountered a rude response. That’s where my communication ends and I move on to someone more customer oriented. Though to avoid misunderstanding/ rude replies I keep my questions brief and to the point. I don’t try to engage in a long text exchange. “Hi X, I saw your ad/website and thought you liked and sounded great. Can you tell me about your rates/ location/ restrictions/ extras? I’m interested in making an appointment on date:time.”
Small talk, and repeated detailed questions, especially if already on an ad or website smells like a tire kicker/ time waster to most girls. So don’t be like that. Time texting/ talking/emailing where there is little chance an appointment costs them money.
Thank you! Perfect intro text. I also suppose that if you read the website you won't ask for details and go straight to the point. You will get the sex of your life.

Mental foreplays are as important as the physical ones. How you treat someone, your tone and manner ect. Is so important for us. We need to feel safe. If we do, we are more willing to go above and beyond for you.
 
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As one who had seen some of the inquires made by “potential clients”, I can understand how some of the responses back to them garner responses that they may not like. Absolute stupid questions and comments and it becomes obvious they have no desire to book an appointment and are probably getting off during the text conversation.

OP starts a thread about responses and rates. My guess is that he probably started to ask for a lower rate and we all know how the conversation will end up 9.5 times out of 10.
 
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Honest reply. LOL.

Don’t think that is an SP/client exchange but if it is, the guy deserved the answer he got. Stupid questions get stupid answers.


OP starts a thread about responses and rates. My guess is that he probably started to ask for a lower rate and we all know how the conversation will end up 9.5 times out of 10.
This is why we need more context. We can’t say for sure what questions he asked or how he asked them.
 
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