DoFo says another lockdown 'on the 'table'

TeeJay

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Maybe you should look into the WHO.
There are literally no connections beyond any bizarre conspiracy theories you may be about to spout

Has the UN ever discussed them? Sure. But they are a COMPLETELY different org

It is really funny whenever you make a mistake; it is so hard for you to admit you are wrong even when it is such an obvious mistake eh?

Here history of WHO knock yourself out

 

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There are literally no connections beyond any bizarre conspiracy theories you may be about to spout

Has the UN ever discussed them? Sure. But they are a COMPLETELY different org
It is really funny whenever you make a mistake; it is so hard for you to admit you are wrong even when it is such an obvious mistake eh?
Here history of WHO knock yourself out

I apologize upfront for the length of this post but felt it necessary to layout the relationship between the UN and WHO in a little more detail.
Are they "different" organizations - yes. Are they organizations with a close working relationship established through each other's organizing legal frameworks - absolutely.

I am not sure what TJ would accept as a there being a clear connection between the UN and WHO but I think most reasonable people would think the following details confirm a close working relationship.

Fact Number One - WHO is listed by the UN as one of the specialized agencies as established under the UN Charter

Articles 57 and 63 of the United Nations Charter state
Article 57
  1. The various specialized agencies, established by intergovernmental agreement and having wide international responsibilities, as defined in their basic instruments, in economic, social, cultural, educational, health, and related fields, shall be brought into relationship with the United Nations in accordance with the provisions of Article 63.
  2. Such agencies thus brought into relationship with the United Nations are hereinafter referred to as specialized agencies.
Article 63
  1. The Economic and Social Council may enter into agreements with any of the agencies referred to in Article 57, defining the terms on which the agency concerned shall be brought into relationship with the United Nations. Such agreements shall be subject to approval by the General Assembly.
  2. It may co-ordinate the activities of the specialized agencies through consultation with and recommendations to such agencies and through recommendations to the General Assembly and to the Members of the United Nations.
The World Health Organization Constitution states that

ACCEPTING THESE PRINCIPLES, and for the purpose of co-operation among themselves and with others to promote and protect the health of all peoples, the Contracting Parties agree to the present Constitution and hereby establish the World Health Organization as a specialized agency within the terms of Article 57 of the Charter of the United Nations.

Another excerpt from the WHO Constitution

CHAPTER II – FUNCTIONS
Article 2 In order to achieve its objective, the functions of the Organization shall be:
(a) to act as the directing and co-ordinating authority on international health work;

b) to establish and maintain effective collaboration with the United Nations, specialized agencies, governmental health administrations, professional groups and such other organizations as may be deemed appropriate;

And yet another excerpt from the WHO Constitution related to the obligations of the World Health Assembly which is the annual meeting held to determine WHO's direction (and TJ the WHO must consult with the UN before finalizing the date of this annual assembly - so that would seem to indicate a close relationship)

(i) to consider recommendations bearing on health made by the General Assembly, the Economic and Social Council, the Security Council or Trusteeship Council of the United Nations, and to report to them on the steps taken by the Organization to give effect to such recommendations;

(j) to report to the Economic and Social Council in accordance with any agreement between the Organization and the United Nations;

I have provided links to the WHO Constitution and the UN Agreement that confirms WHO as a UN Special Agency and details the working relationship including the sharing of data, human resource policies, the fact that the UN can request WHO to undertake specialized studies, the fact that WHO must provide reports to the UN on actions taken by WHO on health initiatives requested of it by the UN, and that WHO must consult the UN on the location of WHO's headquarters.

So TJ the UN has done just a little bit more than "discussing" WHO and there is absolutely a long standing formal working relationship between the UN and WHO confirmed in both organization's Charters and Constitutions despite what you inferred from reading a one page "History" on WHO's website.

Links should you care to read in a bit more detail.


 
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@northofsixty
Canada works with the WHO
Yet are totally separate entities
Canada had a hand in creation of UN
Yet are totally separate entities

I personally think basket made a typo and substituted the abbreviation UN for the WHO in error and I am mocking him for it at this point

But regardless of who founded the WHO (UN did, again I even linked to history above) membership in UN does not guarantee membership in WHO
There is an application process

And (for obvious reasons) many of their goals are aligned but they are certainly independent
(again as an analogy; the working relationship between Doug Ford and Justin Trudeau. Sure they have very similar goals but they can also take very different paths to get there)
 

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Dougie Ford is going to shut down non essential retail next.

Everyone of the decision makers in the Gov't + Healthcare is only reading the racing form and not watching the race...
 

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Dougie Ford is going to shut down non essential retail next.

Everyone of the decision makers in the Gov't + Healthcare is only reading the racing form and not watching the race...
Here is why it's a race to bring the numbers down and get vaccines in arms!!!!!!

 

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Here is why it's a race to bring the numbers down and get vaccines in arms!!!!!!

First off it is sad this is happening to the family involved in this story. Im sure there are several stories that have similar results.

I don't deny the reason. I question the due diligence and actions of the couple.

There is no mention of what I would call "activities that may have lead to contracting the virus" all this story messages is the result of..

And that's why i consider partial news - fake news.
 

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Since when does covid cause mobility issues?

The reason everyone rolls their eyes and mouths #FakeNews is because Covid has become the new Goldstein

Everything is always Goldstein's fault the news trumpets
 

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First off it is sad this is happening to the family involved in this story. Im sure there are several stories that have similar results.

I don't deny the reason. I question the due diligence and actions of the couple.

There is no mention of what I would call "activities that may have lead to contracting the virus" all this story messages is the result of..

And that's why i consider partial news - fake news.
Since when does covid cause mobility issues?

The reason everyone rolls their eyes and mouths #FakeNews is because Covid has become the new Goldstein

Everything is always Goldstein's fault the news trumpets
There you have! Proof of the $*&%#@ deniers brushing off a family's demise with their BULLSHIT AND NONSENSE!!
 

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There you have! Proof of the $*&%#@ deniers brushing off a family's demise with their BULLSHIT AND NONSENSE!!
So explain how a respiratory illness in any way effects the muscles in your body to impede mobility

You are correct the story is bullshit and nonsense
 

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So explain how a respiratory illness in any way effects the muscles in your body to impede mobility

You are correct the story is bullshit and nonsense
Covid does attacks in different ways. Blood clots are found in 40% of infected individuals. These people went through hell and do not need an internet troll like yourself to try and downplay their tragedy so as you can rewrite the narrative to fit your ridiculous agenda.

The one who is BULLSHIT AND NONSENSE IS YOU!



ENJOY THE LOCKDOWNS!!

If you do actually go away and get stranded I'll say fake news but will be laughing my ass off.
 

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Covid does attacks in different ways. Blood clots are found in 40% of infected individuals. These people went through hell and do not need an internet troll like yourself to try and downplay their tragedy so as you can rewrite the narrative to fit your ridiculous agenda.

The one who is BULLSHIT AND NONSENSE IS YOU!
The blood clots are from the VACCINE not the virus

Covid is a RESPIRATORY issue (same as the flu)
Anything else that happens afterwards is the persons body reacting
 

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The blood clots are from the VACCINE not the virus

Covid is a RESPIRATORY issue (same as the flu)
Anything else that happens afterwards is the persons body reacting
Are you really that daffed and dense that you do not know your ass from your mouth because you seem to always talk out of your wrong pie hole!


 

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The blood clots are from the VACCINE not the virus

Covid is a RESPIRATORY issue (same as the flu)
Anything else that happens afterwards is the persons body reacting
Shit, I just realized you can't read! I'm here to help so please enjoy the virtual lesson.

 
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There are literally no connections beyond any bizarre conspiracy theories you may be about to spout
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So you're afraid to admit that the WHO was founded under the UN?




Funny that the link you provided is pretty clear.
When diplomats met to form the United Nations in 1945, one of the things they discussed was setting up a global health organization.

WHO’s Constitution came into force on 7 April 1948 – a date we now celebrate every year as World Health Day



And going into the actual founding documents...
ACCEPTING THESE PRINCIPLES, and for the purpose of co-operation among themselves and with others to promote and protect the health of all peoples, the Contracting Parties agree to the present Constitution and hereby establish the World Health Organization as a specialized agency within the terms of Article 57 of the Charter of the United Nations.


Of course you want to turn the debate into this because you have proven how out of it you are on everything else in this thread.
 
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So you're afraid to admit that the WHO was founded under the UN?




Funny that the link you provided is pretty clear.
When diplomats met to form the United Nations in 1945, one of the things they discussed was setting up a global health organization.

WHO’s Constitution came into force on 7 April 1948 – a date we now celebrate every year as World Health Day



And going into the actual founding documents...
ACCEPTING THESE PRINCIPLES, and for the purpose of co-operation among themselves and with others to promote and protect the health of all peoples, the Contracting Parties agree to the present Constitution and hereby establish the World Health Organization as a specialized agency within the terms of Article 57 of the Charter of the United Nations.


Of course you want to turn the debate into this because you have proven how out of it you are on everything else in this thread.
I haven't been paying attention.
Why does TeeJay think the WHO isn't connected to the UN? And why would that be important?
 

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680 News saying strong rumour that Ford is gonna announce a 28 day "Stay At Home" order tomorrow, effective 24 to 48 hours after.
 

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680 News saying strong rumour that Ford is gonna announce a 28 day "Stay At Home" order tomorrow, effective 24 to 48 hours after.
It's no rumour; it's Ford and his cabinet himself who leaks all this stuff to the press in advance.

Same report says that all non-essential retail will go back to Curbside pickup; and Big Box stores will now be forced to rope off all the non-essential items - which is what I believe Saskatchewan was doing all along.
 
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