hold on there. Are you saying dutch, jc, oracle and their friends are not reasonable people?
Sydney Powell says "no reasonable person" would believe her claims about Dominion Voting Machine
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Did you make a typo leaving the "t" off the front of "reasonable"?
I would think that the defense makes sense for an entertainer even if it was in a semi-news format. But when a person makes these claims while speaking as a lawyer, I wouldn't think it appropriate.It’s a Tucker Carlson defence...
Fox News won a court case by 'persuasively' arguing that no 'reasonable viewer' takes Tucker Carlson seriously
Tucker Carlson has a long history of making racist and controversial statements as a primetime host on Fox News.www.businessinsider.com
Unfortunately, "no reasonable person" refers to nearly half the population of the US. Does Sydney have a side hustle with "stop the steal" hats?
The real problem is that her message was not aimed at reasonable people. iI was aimed at the GOP.
I think if an entertainer argues it, it should be allowed on conditions that the entertainer is obligated to have a "fake news" logo on the screen from that point on. Better yet, branded on the forehead.
Had you ever tried a case instead of merely theorizing and speculating, you would understand that you are about 180 degrees off the mark.
Juries are much "smarter" about common sense than most people give them credit for... as a lawyer... it is very difficult to try to deceive a jury and have them believe you... to 1 or 2 jurors, perhaps... to all 12 of them, nearly impossible...
BTW, statements of fact are treated differently from statements of opinion in defamation law. To be protected, in statements of fact, the facts must be true and accurately reported... statements of opinion need only be fair comment on facts reasonably asserted... and what may be considered fair, is very elastic...
For better or worse... Tucker is considered to be a commentator... an entertainer... like a comedian... not a reporter... whereas, as a lawyer she is reporting allegations of facts...
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I think you missed the point of my post.
"No reasonable person believes a word of what a lawyer says" will not be a good defense in front of a judge, because the judge is a lawyer.
A jury made up of reasonable people would agree that "no reasonable person believes a word of what a lawyer says"
Capisce?
As a statement of opinion... that may or may not be fair... as a report of facts... it is neither... true nor accurate...
Perry
The saddest thing of all is about 50 million people still believe the Big Lie, gee, hard to figure out how false extreme views become just oky doky, history repeating itself yet again.
Dump's, er sorry Trump's, real plan was to have a court chuck out key state electorial votes, after all justice and truth are often diametrically opposed in court, if you look at the courts where they filed every single judge was either a past republican appointment with Conservative views or appointed by him. Big legal strategy was really looking for payback from judges for being appointed. It is also why he got the last supreme court judge appointed so "he" would have a majority at the SC so if the case went that far his pals would side with him in a majority ruling. Issue is - Dimrump, sorry, Trump did not realize judges would not break the law for him, his "pals" in business and those he shafted with (my count) 15 business bankrupts are not the same as national fraud.
Here's Powell's motion to dismiss for those who might want an accurate description of her legal position:
The problem is not the GOP, but the entire system.
The U.S. pumps out brain dead lemmings that will eat up the most obvious nonsense and go over the cliff with it.
To boot, both parties are equally culpable for the cynicism and complete loss of confidence in their government
that results in this type of movement.
When a nutty fringe group becomes a major demographic, the blood is not on the hands of one administration.
The U.S. pumps out brain dead lemmings that will eat up the most obvious nonsense and go over the cliff with it.
To boot, both parties are equally culpable for the cynicism and complete loss of confidence in their government
that results in this type of movement.
When a nutty fringe group becomes a major demographic, the blood is not on the hands of one administration.
Because the system was designed... to address people's needs... the needs of society... as they were before the invention of the steam engine.
Society has changed... vastly... but the system has not... over the years there have been minor tweaks... but the system... is fundamentally the same system... especially in the USA... it is still the same Constitution!
Perry
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