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GameBoy27

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We will not see HIV or cancer cure in our lifetime.

Dying client is the best kind. Such person and entire family will give everything and they do. Why screw up such cash flow with some silly cure??

Pharma isn't there to fix you. It's all for profit, to keep you alive long enough and milk you like a cow.
Since there's something like 100 different types of cancer, it's not surprising there isn't one magic pill (or vaccine) to cure everyone who gets it. One could say however, many of today's cancer "treatments" are in actual fact a "cures." There's many who've had cancer at one point in their life, only to have it "cured" and go on to live a long, healthy life.

So I don't buy your theory that scientists and drug companies don't want to cure people. They also think about themselves along with their families and friends in their efforts to help people. You can bet they don't want them to die if there's a possibility they can be cured. There's many cancers that were a sure death sentence even 20 years ago, that can now be cured.

A prime example is in the treatment of HIV. If big pharma had some sort of hidden agenda to make greater profits, why would they have invented and released antiretroviral medications? These drugs maintain an undetectable viral load which poses effectively no risk of sexually transmitting the virus to an HIV-negative partner. If they just wanted to make more money, why wouldn't they create a drug that make HIV infected people live longer but continue to spread the disease? More customers, right? That's why your theory doesn't hold water.
 
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Since there's so many different types of cancer, it's not surprising there isn't one magic pill (or vaccine) to cure everyone who gets it. One could say however, many of today's cancer "treatments" are in actual fact a "cures." There's many who've had cancer at one point in their life, only to have it "cured" and go on to live a long, healthy life.

So I don't buy your theory that scientists and drug companies don't want to cure people. They also think about themselves along with their families and friends in their efforts to help people. You can bet they don't want them to die if there's a possibility they can be cured. There's many cancers that were a sure death sentence even 20 years ago, that can now be cured.

A prime example is in the treatment of HIV. If big pharma had some sort of hidden agenda to make greater profits, why would they have invented and released antiretroviral medications? These drugs maintain an undetectable viral load which poses effectively no risk of sexually transmitting the virus to an HIV-negative partner. If they just wanted to make more money, why wouldn't they create a drug that make HIV infected people live longer but continue to spread the disease? More customers, right? That's why your theory doesn't hold water.
If everybody gets well, healthy - no more patients, no more prescriptions.

Medical professionals are heavily influenced by pharmaceutical companies. They're not looking out for your best interest.

 
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If everybody gets well, healthy - no more patients, no more prescriptions.
But that's never going to happen. There will always be sick people. The reason people take medication is to make them better. Might be something as simple as an antibiotic to treat an infection. Might be to treat something more severe. Tell me this, if you get sick, are you going to turn down medications that can make you better? Or will you take the meds? Because you don't have to take anything. You don't even need to go to the doctor.

Medical professionals are heavily influenced by pharmaceutical companies. They're not looking out for your best interest.
While I agree some medical professionals are influenced by big pharma, many are more interested in helping their patients. Most people will take the meds if it's going to make them better. Nothing wrong with big pharma providing an option. Like I said, you have the option to say no. But most people choose to get better if they can. It's also good to educate yourself.
 

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Ever since Biden was sworn in:

- messages on board get deleted, constantly... especially funny ones
- many thread titles on Terb have been renamed
- threads are getting locked more and more often
- threads get moved to other categories in bunches

Does anyone else think that Biden is a Terb member??? 🙄
 

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Ever since Biden was sworn in:

- messages on board get deleted, constantly... especially funny ones
- many thread titles on Terb have been renamed
- threads are getting locked more and more often
- threads get moved to other categories in bunches

Does anyone else think that Biden is a Terb member??? 🙄
No but the same lizard people run the place🐉

Either that or your 'funny' posts really aren't.
 

squeezer

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Ever since Biden was sworn in:

- messages on board get deleted, constantly... especially funny ones
- many thread titles on Terb have been renamed
- threads are getting locked more and more often
- threads get moved to other categories in bunches

Does anyone else think that Biden is a Terb member??? 🙄

You're trying to be funny right?
 

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Here's a little conspiracy on how Covid vaccine can destroy your immune system and cause infertility.


We need a proper list. What do we have so far?

Immunocomprimization.
Anaphylaxis.
Infertility.
Sore arm.
Fatigue.
Fever.
Autism.
Blindness.
Hairy palms.
What am I missing.

Yet demand exceeds supply. I guess aside from fearmongering cowards, the rest of the world fears a virus that's infected 100 million people more than they do the miniscule chance of developing an adverse reaction, which is most likely bogus anyway. Which group has their head screwed on right and which are wackos.
 
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Tomoreno

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No but the same lizard people run the place🐉

Either that or your 'funny' posts really aren't.
Basket, you hear name Biden and get so horny you can't hide it. I love it!
Biden, Biden, Biden! 😆

You're trying to be funny right?
What gave me away?

I just noticed that mods/admins are working overtime this week. Lot's of moderations going on.
 

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But that's never going to happen. There will always be sick people. The reason people take medication is to make them better. Might be something as simple as an antibiotic to treat an infection. Might be to treat something more severe. Tell me this, if you get sick, are you going to turn down medications that can make you better? Or will you take the meds? Because you don't have to take anything. You don't even need to go to the doctor.



While I agree some medical professionals are influenced by big pharma, many are more interested in helping their patients. Most people will take the meds if it's going to make them better. Nothing wrong with big pharma providing an option. Like I said, you have the option to say no. But most people choose to get better if they can. It's also good to educate yourself.
Mark Levin promotes a beet extract will restore all of your body's natural healthy rhythms. Trump approved, just send money...
 

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Conspiracy Theories Are Caused By Government Secrecy
Caitlin JohnstoneMonday, 15 February 2021, 11:01 am
Article: Caitlin Johnstone


The DC Circuit has ruled that the CIA is under no obligation to comply with Freedom of Information Act requests pertaining to its involvement with insurgent militias in Syria, overturning a lower court's previous ruling in favor of a Buzzfeed News reporter seeking such documents.
As Sputnik's Morgan Artyukhina clearly outlines, this ruling comes despite the fact that mainstream news outlets have been reporting on the Central Intelligence Agency's activities in Syria for years, and despite a US president having openly tweeted about those activities.
"In other words, the CIA will not be required to admit to actions it is widely reported as having done, much less divulge documents about them to the press for even greater scrutiny," Artyukhina writes, calling to mind the Julian Assange quote "The overwhelming majority of information is classified to protect political security, not national security."
My latest: Despite extensive reporting by the @WSJ & CIA-vetted @nytimes confirming it happened, a DC court has sided with the @CIA, finding that a Trump tweet doesn't constitute proof that it funded al-Qaeda in #Syria. https://t.co/NFaQBrggV5

— Morgan Artyukhina (@LavenderNRed) February 13, 2021
The CIA's brazen collaboration with dangerous extremist factions seeking to topple Damascus, and its equally brazen refusal to provide the public with any information about the extent of its involvement in Syria from the earliest stages of the violence in that nation onwards, will necessarily provide fodder for conspiracy theories.
It is public knowledge that the CIA was involved in the Syrian war to some extent, it is public knowledge that the CIA has a well-documented history of doing extremely evil things, and it is public knowledge that the US government has long sought control over Syria. Due to the agency's refusal to be transparent about the exact nature of its involvement in that nation, people are left to fill in the knowledge gaps with their own speculation.
Of course they will do this. Why wouldn't they? Why would anyone give the lying, torturing, propagandizing, drug trafficking, coup-staging, warmongering, psychopathic Central Intelligence Agency the benefit of the doubt and assume their actions in Syria have been benevolent just because the hard facts have been hidden behind a wall of government secrecy?
Yet they will be expected to. Anyone with a sufficient degree of influence who comes right out and says the CIA knowingly armed violent jihadists with the goal of orchestrating regime change in Syria will be attacked as a crazy conspiracy theorist by the narrative managers of the establishment media. If their words are really disruptive to establishment narratives, there will be calls to deplatform, unemploy, and ban them from social media.
I'd forgotten how shameless and demented the imperialist narrative managers get whenever anyone in a position of influence contradicts the imperial narrative about what's happening in Syria. Mentally replace their words with "STOP INTERFERING IN OUR GLOBAL PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN!" https://t.co/Sd5HCCklkW pic.twitter.com/O9XonJBHfo
— Caitlin Johnstone
(@caitoz)
January 15, 2021
And really such is the case with all the melodramatic garment rending about the dangers of conspiracy theories today. All the fixation on the way unregulated speech on the internet has contributed to the circulation of conspiracy theories conveniently ignores the real cause of those theories: government secrecy.
If the most powerful government in the world were not hiding a massive amount of its behavior behind increasingly opaque walls of secrecy, people would not need to fill in the gaps with theories about what's happening, because there would be no gaps; they would simply see what's happening.
"But Caitlin!" one might object. "How could America engage in all its military operations around the world if it didn't keep information about its behaviors a secret?"
Exactly, my smooth-brained friend. Exactly.
Government secrecy is indeed necessary for winning wars. Government secrecy is also necessary for starting those wars in the first place. US government agencies have an extensive history of using false pretenses to initiate military conflicts; if they could not hide the facts behind a veil of government opacity, the public would never engage in them. The American people would never have allowed their sons to go to Vietnam if they'd known the Gulf of Tonkin incident was a lie. They'd never have sent their sons and daughters to invade Iraq if they'd known weapons of mass destruction were a lie. They would lose the support of the public, and the international community would refuse to back them.
Protecting the lives of foreign military and intelligence personnel is the primary argument against government transparency in the United States, a premise which takes it for granted that there need to be foreign military and intelligence personnel at all. The only reason the lives of troops and intelligence officers would be endangered without massive walls of government secrecy is because those personnel are out there facilitating imperialist acts of mass murder and tyranny. The argument is essentially "Well we can't tell you the truth about what's happening in our government, because it would mean we'd have to stop doing extremely evil things."
The argument that the internet needs strict censorship to eliminate dangerous conspiracy theories takes it as a given that simply eliminating government secrecy is impossible, which in turn takes it as a given that the US government cannot simply stop inflicting grave evils around the world. Our ability to share information with each other online is therefore ultimately being increasingly choked off by monopolistic Silicon Valley megacorporations because no one in charge can fathom the idea of the United States government ceasing to butcher human beings around the world.
That is the real underlying argument over internet censorship today. Should people have free access to information about what their own government is doing, or should their government be permitted to do evil things in secret while people who form theories about what they're doing are shoved further and further away from audibility? That's the real debate here.
Here's how politicians, media and government could eliminate conspiracy theories if they really want to:
- Stop lying all the time
- Stop killing people
- Stop promoting conspiracy theories (Russiagate)
- Stop doing evil things in secret
- End government opacity
- Stop conspiring
— Caitlin Johnstone
(@caitoz)
January 9, 2021
The powerful should not be permitted to keep secrets from the public. They should not be permitted to jail journalists who try to reveal those secrets to the public, and they should not be permitted to collaborate with monopolistic corporations to censor people who form theories about those secrets. The amount of secrecy you are entitled to should be directly inverse to the amount of power that you have.
The US government has powerful agencies whose literal job is to conspire. The fact that people are punished and condemned for forming theories about how that conspiring might take place, even while those agencies are completely lacking in transparency, is abusive.
If the government was not doing evil things in secret, then it wouldn't need secrecy. If the government didn't have secrecy, there would be no conspiracy theories. Stop pointing your attacks at powerless people who are just trying to figure out what's going on in the world amidst a sea of government secrecy and propaganda, and point them at the power structures that are actually responsible for the existence of conspiracy theories in the first place.

 

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Right. There's no conspiracy theories when the government is completely transparent. They could post the names and full autopsies of every covid death and the freaks would still be claiming it's fake like with the first American nurse to be vaccinated.

I could see the argument that secrecy gives people an excuse to believe they are rational but that's not what the article is saying.
 
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