Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

Will you take the COVID-19 vaccine?

  • Yes, as soon as possible

    Votes: 220 57.7%
  • Yes, but I do not want to be among the first to take it.

    Votes: 68 17.8%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 17 4.5%
  • Not Sure

    Votes: 21 5.5%
  • Absolutely not

    Votes: 50 13.1%
  • I do not care if I do or don't

    Votes: 5 1.3%

  • Total voters
    381
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Cityside15

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and dozens of Israelis are killed by these same experimental MRNA vaccines which are not approved by the FDA yo are blindly defending.

This is not a vaccine - Israel National News


Our citizens must first and foremost define the discussion in order to accurately weigh their choices. What they are being asked to inject is not a vaccine as defined by the CDC as “A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease.” [5] Rather, it is an experimental and novel technology. By definition of the FDA [6] as a component used as treatment to affect a body’s function, it is in fact a medical device, a physical device that comes in a molecular sized package. Erroneously referring to this intervention as a vaccine exploits the public's ingrained trust of the vaccination program to solicit knee jerk response and action. It keeps us entrenched in needless debate in place of taking the necessary measures to investigate the impact on our health.

DNA is, in short, the basis for our genetic structure. Inside each cell are codes which transfer its information to make proteins through messenger RNA. Messenger RNA is an intermediary between gene and protein and the protein elicits the immune response, not the RNA. The contents of this shot being given on an experimental basis is a synthetic messenger RNA that is inserted into the human system to activate the cell to manufacture, in this case, a spike protein. [7] An mRNA vaccine is not a vaccine, because it does not elicit an immune response. What it is, is genetic engineering.


There are a number of prominent concerns of serious adverse reactions of which include, in brief summary, some of the following:

In previous clinical trials since the 1960’s [8] attempts to vaccinate against RSV, [9] Dengue, [10] SARS and MERS, the studies each failed during the animal phase. Cats, ferrets, monkeys, and rabbits each and every time experienced Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE), also known as pathogenic priming or a cytokine storm. This occurs when the immune system creates an uncontrolled and overwhelming inflammatory response upon being confronted with the pathogen in the real world, and the outcome, tragically, is death. The same immune system overreaction took place in a number of infants in clinical trials who received an attempted RSV shot, as well as some six hundred Filipino children who died following early vaccination against Dengue [11] and it remains a viable concern today. [12]

Autoimmune disease occurs when the body's immune system can't tell the difference between its own cells and foreign cells, and causes the body to attack its normal cells. [13] It has been suggested that "molecular mimicry" may contribute to this problem, with antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 cross-reacting with structurally similar host protein sequences and raising an acute autoimmune response against them. [14]

Scientists have determined that the same spike protein found in SARS viruses are also responsible for the development of the placenta in mammals, including humans, and is therefore an essential prerequisite for a successful pregnancy. If a woman’s body is primed to attack these protein spikes, the immune system may prevent a placenta from being formed, which would render that woman infertile. [15]
Dude, best of luck with life. Pretty sure you, your family, and friends have a lot of vaccines in your body. You keep quoting non-scientific articles that are just propaganda. Go Vote for Trump in 2024, believe in QANON, etc....
 
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All you do is regurgitate mainstream talking points and write FAKE NEWS! in giant font for anything you can’t understand or refute.

Just take your L and walk.
Um, NO , you're wrong AGAIN!

You need help. Serious help with lots of meds!
 

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Dude, best of luck with life. Pretty sure you, your family, and friends have a lot of vaccines in your body. You keep quoting non-scientific articles that are just propaganda. Go Vote for Trump in 2024, believe in QANON, etc....

typical response from somebody who can't bother to read the article

if you botheredto read you will see this about the author

Ilana Rachel Daniel is a Health and Wellness Counselor in Jerusalem and dedicates her time to research health and advocacy. www.choicesources.com


vaccines for measles and polio take at least 5 to 10 years to develop and go through extensive testing unlike covid vaccines that took 6 months and is rushed
 

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Dude, best of luck with life. Pretty sure you, your family, and friends have a lot of vaccines in your body. You keep quoting non-scientific articles that are just propaganda. Go Vote for Trump in 2024, believe in QANON, etc....
CM/SPFREE are very entertaining. It's like watching a comedy skit. Too bad it's real life and the lack of common sense is dangerous.
 
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typical response from somebody who can't bother to read the article

if you botheredto read you will see this about the author

Ilana Rachel Daniel is a Health and Wellness Counselor in Jerusalem and dedicates her time to research health and advocacy. www.choicesources.com


vaccines for measles and polio take at least 5 to 10 years to develop and go through extensive testing unlike covid vaccines that took 6 months and is rushed
You literally keep exposing yourself.

The reason that vaccine took longer is because they had the time and hard to enlist enough people. Now they have MILLIONS they can enlist right away. Plus the tech is already been tested, where it wasn't back then.

As for the person you are quoting, they are NOT a scientist. In your own description, it says COUNSELOR, which is not someone who knows science.

Dude, come on, seriously, try harder. Why are you so obtuse???? Come into this century and accept that science is real.
 
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CM/SPFREE are very entertaining. It's like watching a comedy skit. Too bad it's real life and the lack of common sense is dangerous.
It would be friggin comical if the reality is people like this ruin our lives by denying reality, and just chase their own motives.

MORE REASON science should be mandatory all the way through school, it is too important to know so you can figure out what is bull vs truth.
 

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typical response from somebody who can't bother to read the article

if you botheredto read you will see this about the author

Ilana Rachel Daniel is a Health and Wellness Counselor in Jerusalem and dedicates her time to research health and advocacy. www.choicesources.com


vaccines for measles and polio take at least 5 to 10 years to develop and go through extensive testing unlike covid vaccines that took 6 months and is rushed
Reading any link you post is nonsense and bullsit that one can never reclaim that precious time wasted.
 

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You literally keep exposing yourself.

The reason that vaccine took longer is because they had the time and hard to enlist enough people. Now they have MILLIONS they can enlist right away. Plus the tech is already been tested, where it wasn't back then.

As for the person you are quoting, they are NOT a scientist. In your own description, it says COUNSELOR, which is not someone who knows science.

Dude, come on, seriously, try harder. Why are you so obtuse???? Come into this century and accept that science is real.

this vaccine is NOT APPROVED BY THE FDA and is killing and injuring people your denials and blind conformism will not change reality



I fully support your right to hide in your house & wear that mask until you can take an untested rushed experimental mRNA vaccine developed by big pharma who can't be sued when you have an adverse reaction. As long as you fully support my right to do none of those things.
 

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CM you can beat these guys with the truth until they are dead. They don’t want the truth.

Let them take their “vaccine.”
 

squeezer

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this vaccine is NOT APPROVED BY THE FDA and is killing and injuring people your denials and blind conformism will not change reality
LMFAO, what a bunch of horseshit, cow shit, goat shit and any and all full of shit post!
 

Cityside15

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this vaccine is NOT APPROVED BY THE FDA and is killing and injuring people your denials and blind conformism will not change reality



I fully support your right to hide in your house & wear that mask until you can take an untested rushed experimental mRNA vaccine developed by big pharma who can't be sued when you have an adverse reaction. As long as you fully support my right to do none of those things.
I urge you to read the following links from the WHO and directly from the FDA where you can see they have approved the vaccines. Unless you assume the FDA site was hacked and compromised, these would mean the vaccines are approved.

Here are some helpful science FAQ's to bring you up to speed on the facts:

COVID-19 vaccines (who.int)

Well the FDA says different:
Emergency Use Authorization for Vaccines Explained | FDA
Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine | FDA

MODERNA
Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine | FDA
 

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I urge you to read the following links from the WHO and directly from the FDA where you can see they have approved the vaccines. Unless you assume the FDA site was hacked and compromised, these would mean the vaccines are approved.

Here are some helpful science FAQ's to bring you up to speed on the facts:

COVID-19 vaccines (who.int)

Well the FDA says different:
Emergency Use Authorization for Vaccines Explained | FDA
Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine | FDA

MODERNA
Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine | FDA

not interested in reading covid propaganda funded by the likes of bill gates
 

Cityside15

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not interested in reading covid propaganda funded by the likes of bill gates
Well you made a statement that the vaccines were not approved by the FDA, but that was proven false, as the FDA on their website say otherwise. I provided you the links.

So which propaganda do you align yourself with? Who speaks the truth for you>? Genuinely curious where you get your info from that you believe.
 

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Well you made a statement that the vaccines were not approved by the FDA, but that was proven false, as the FDA on their website say otherwise. I provided you the links.

So which propaganda do you align yourself with? Who speaks the truth for you>? Genuinely curious where you get your info from that you believe.
Moderna CEO

"We took 2 days to design the #vaccine on the computer."

From the horses mouth

 

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this vaccine is an excuse for depopulation genocide and mass murder deaths continue to pile up.
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Yeah, this.

Anyone else notice that there all 175 million vaccinated people have disappeared? That's the real reason TJ says the ICUs he stalks are empty. The lizard people have already taken all the medical workers and old people to the freezers on their spaceships. Hopefully Robert England will decide his lizard people are bad and help the resistance.
 

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Moderna CEO

"We took 2 days to design the #vaccine on the computer."

From the horses mouth

If you actually understood the process you wouldn't think that was an issue. See this is the problem. People just simply don't understand the process. Now I don't blame you, because you have no science background, and refuse to read any science to understand it. But basically, once they have the genetic code, it takes 2 days running it through the computer to come up with the candidates they then test.

And by that rationale, the decades they took to perfect the cigarette must mean it is 100% safe!!!!!!
 

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Yeah, this.

Anyone else notice that there all 175 million vaccinated people have disappeared? That's the real reason TJ says the ICUs he stalks are empty. The lizard people have already taken all the medical workers and old people to the freezers on their spaceships. Hopefully Robert England will decide his lizard people are bad and help the resistance.
This and future vaccines are actually meant to de-populated the world. Those that are too stupid to take it, will speed up their departure times!!!!
 

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If you actually understood the process you wouldn't think that was an issue. See this is the problem. People just simply don't understand the process. Now I don't blame you, because you have no science background, and refuse to read any science to understand it. But basically, once they have the genetic code, it takes 2 days running it through the computer to come up with the candidates they then test.


vaccines don't take 2 days to design and develop why do you want people to take an unapproved, untested, experimental jab that is injuring and killing people? polio, measles, vaccines take years to develop and went through extensive testing before being approved the FDA
 

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vaccines don't take 2 days to design and develop why do you want people to take an unapproved, untested, experimental jab that is injuring and killing people? polio, measles, vaccines take years to develop and went through extensive testing before being approved the FDA
They do take two days, you don't even know how they are designed.

This is the problem with people like you. You literally have no scientific education to back up your statements that you assume are true. So:

1. You have no education to identify what is right, wrong, or is an issue
2. You don't even spend 5 minutes reading on how they designed it and why it takes all of two days to do this now with our current technology.
3. You couldn't even explain to me how a mRNA virus works, and the difference between the delivery methods of adenovirus and lipid micelles.
4. You scour the internet for any report that someone died, yet have zero ability to critically think for yourself and analyze what is being said to determine validity.

And for example, the article you sent from "LIFE SITE" which is a well known conspiracy theory right wing website that even got banned on Youtube, is riddled with statements that are just plain false and don't even make sense. Claiming people are GETTING COVID-19 from the vaccine is literally ridiculous. If you even paid attention to Grade 2 science, you would understand this is LITERALLY impossible. You would also know that you are not immune to COVID-19 immediately after you get your shot, so if you get the vaccine and then get exposed to it, you would get it!

But hey, I guess you are one of those that jumps on the bandwagon that God must of created COVID-19 to kill off millions because "He knows what he is doing".........
 
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