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Quebec to impose 8 p.m. provincewide curfew until Feb. 8 - Are we next

Mr.Know-It-All

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“We can’t expect the American people to jump from capitalism to communism but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of socialism until one day they will awaken to find they have communism.” - Nikita Khrushchev, 1957

“Your children's children will live under communism. You Americans are so gullible. No, you won't accept communism outright; but, we will keep feeding you small doses of socialism until you will finally wake up and find you already have Communism.”

Socialism leads to communism.

Saul Alinsky”s Doctrine: 8 steps to topple a nation and create a socialistic state

1) Healthcare — Control healthcare and you control the people
2) Poverty — Increase the Poverty level as high as possible, poor people are easier to control and will not fight back if you are providing everything for them to live.
3) Debt — Increase the debt to an unsustainable level. That way you are able to increase taxes, and this will produce more poverty.
4) Gun Control — Remove the ability to defend themselves from the Government. That way you are able to create a police state.
5) Welfare — Take control of every aspect of their lives (Food, Housing, and Income).
6) Education — Take control of what people read and listen to — take control of what children learn in school.
7) Religion — Remove the belief in the God from the Government and schools.
8) Class Warfare — Divide the people into the wealthy and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (Tax) the wealthy with the support of the poor.
 

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GameBoy27

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Ontario's contact tracing is atrocious. Last I checked they were only listing a known source for a few percent of cases and there was no way that Ford could have known that a second wave would require improvements.

I know that 'close contact' is the leading source but I haven't seen much more detailed breakdowns.
This is what I was referring to when I said contact tracing. According to one of the top Doctors at Michael Garron. Of all the people who recently tested positive, upwards of 80% said they had gathered with people, not wearing masks outside their family over the Christmas break. And I wouldn't be surprised if a good portion of the remaining 20% simply lied when asked if they gathered.

In other words, it's pretty evident how this virus spreads. Stay home!

I simply like to stroll on the streets. And I have no idea how it can lead to the spread of COVID infection. On the other hand, I can see how taking a bus, taking a child to school, or going insider the grocery store between 5am and 8pm can.
I don't have a problem with people going for a stroll on the streets at night. That's not how the virus spreads. It's people from different households hanging out in groups without masks that's spreading the virus. And now we have cases of the more contagious variant from Britain. Thanks to people who found it necessary to travel to and from other countries.
 
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Mr.Know-It-All

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And now we have cases of the more contagious variant from Britain. Thanks to people who found it necessary to travel to and from other countries.
But they quarantine after landing, right!?

I suspect airports are still wide open. Maybe time for more of Ford's political buddies to go on vacation with their families and bring back more variants of the disease.
 

squeezer

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But they quarantine after landing, right!?

I suspect airports are still wide open. Maybe time for more of Ford's political buddies to go on vacation with their families and bring back more variants of the disease.
I guess that is all you can harp on. They did it, they got caught and they paid the price by loosing their job. Now we have a stay at home order. Enjoy January and February and keep being part of the problem because your thinking spreads the virus so thank you for the new restrictions.
 

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I guess that is all you can harp on. They did it, they got caught and they paid the price by loosing their job. Now we have a stay at home order. Enjoy January and February and keep being part of the problem because your thinking spreads the virus so thank you for the new restrictions.
The problem with this "stay-at-home" order or with curfew is that they have very low efficiency in preventing infections and high costs for people's utility. Closing schools and having ALL stores do curve pick-ups or home delivery is a much more effective measure that does not cost much and does not impend on people's freedom. My main issue is not that Ford government does too little or too much, it is that they chose to implement the wrong measures.
 

squeezer

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The problem with this "stay-at-home" order or with curfew is that they have very low efficiency in preventing infections and high costs for people's utility. Closing schools and having ALL stores do curve pick-ups or home delivery is a much more effective measure that does not cost much and does not impend on people's freedom. My main issue is not that Ford government does too little or too much, it is that they chose to implement the wrong measures.
Have they not effectively closed all schools into February and longer I'm sure. As for groceries, Walmart, Costco , variety stores, Pharmacies and gas stations, all the rest are only curb side pick up. I'm glad they did not close big box stores. Doing so would just create more people having to be in grocery stores.
 

GameBoy27

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But they quarantine after landing, right!?
Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but this is a prime example of what I've been saying. Couple visits a recent traveler to the UK, who should've been in quarantine. Then they lie about it and in the process could've spread the new variant to countless people. Just wait until this highly contagious variant B117 starts spreading. Our hospitals are going to be fucked!

Ontario couple charged after testing positive for new COVID-19 variant

https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...ter-testing-positive-for-new-covid-19-variant

I suspect airports are still wide open. Maybe time for more of Ford's political buddies to go on vacation with their families and bring back more variants of the disease.

Airports are under Federal jurisdiction. You'll have to ask JT why he hasn't closed them. News flash, it's not just Ford's buddies political buddies who are getting nailed for traveling.
 
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csmitting

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You mean the ones that lost their jobs? The one's that I do not believe anyone here defended, those ones?
Which MP or MPP lost their jobs. (I am aware some of then losing committee spots
You mean the ones that lost their jobs? The one's that I do not believe anyone here defended, those ones?
you work for the govt?

Feel free to defend them. Start with Philips the Ont Finance minister and his fake tweets.
 

squeezer

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Which MP or MPP lost their jobs. (I am aware some of then losing committee spots

you work for the govt?

Feel free to defend them. Start with Philips the Ont Finance minister and his fake tweets.
I don't defend anyone who doesn't wear a mask, takes a vacation abroad or breaks the COVID protocol and I do not give a rat's ass which political party they belong to. A dumbass is a dumbass. I am sorry if my reply doesn't fit your assumption and if you can find a post of me defending a dumbass, feel free to play gotcha if not run along.

PS...never have worked for the government but if I ever decide to run for office, God help the dumbasses!
 
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squeezer

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Quebec curfew is definitely working

Wow, Phil, you're coming along. You always wear a mask, an N95 that is not fitted but none the less a mask and now you have realized lockdowns work. Shit, I'd actually buy you a drink if we weren't in a lockdown. Bar rail only, you haven't earned the good stuff yet.
 

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Why is a provider on here fighting and insulting people
It’s a very bad look for you dear ,
Dont you have better things to do with your time ?
Because I can.

Because I don’t rely on this for money so I am free to state my opinions without fear of loss of business.

Because we are in a pandemic, what else is one to do then post?

Because a woman is allowed strong opinions without being shamed for it

Because your personal opinion of me when you don’t know me at all is irrelevant to me.

Hopefully one of those works for you.
 

doggyorcg

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Quebec curfew is definitely working

And once we get through February all these morons in government will actually believe their actions had an effect when in reality it was because of the cold&flu season trend.
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Source: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/season/flu-season.htm
 
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