Ontario Covid Hospital Cases (always updated daily

squeezer

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We need an update! Conspiracyman, do you feel threatened your bullshit and nonsense are easily dismissed with today's numbers??
 

basketcase

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492 hospitals over 2800 icus 18000 beds. They are empty
Well I know something that's empty.

Sadly some people are too warped to realize that people go to hospitals for other reasons and that due to tax dollars, they operate at 85% capacity in good times.
 

basketcase

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We need an update! Conspiracyman, do you feel threatened your bullshit and nonsense are easily dismissed with today's numbers??
Thankfully I', one of the few people with access to the government's public site.

  • Hospitalized
    1,446
  • ICU
    369
  • On ventilator
    250
  • Deaths
    26
 

squeezer

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This thread will be about hospital cases not PCR test cases



  • 167
    Hospitalized
  • 38
    In ICU
  • 21
    In ICU on a ventilator
Thankfully I', one of the few people with access to the government's public site.

  • Hospitalized
    1,446
  • ICU
    369
  • On ventilator
    250
  • Deaths
    26
Hmmm, from the first report from ConspiracyMan to your report Basketcase, I believe we have a serious problem
 

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Just a thought.

Ontario averages 35000 tests a say for the last 7 months

So if we take 35000 tests x 30 days in a month = 1,050,000 test

1,050,000 x 7 months = 7,350,000 tests.

Therefore - Ontario has tested half the population in the last 7 months.

Do these numbers make sense?

Are these tests accurate?

I assume no one has the flu? (Not that I think Covid and the flu are the same)
 
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basketcase

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Just a thought.

Ontario averages 35000 tests a say for the last 7 months

So if we take 35000 tests x 30 days in a month = 1,050,000 test

1,050,000 x 7 months = 7,350,000 tests.

Therefore - Ontario has tested half the population in the last 7 months.

Do these numbers make sense?

Are these tests accurate?

I assume no one has the flu? (Not that I think Covid and the flu are the same)
1) Many people (eg. in health) care will get tested regularly so it is likely that the actual percentage of the population that have been tested at some point will be less than 50%.
2) The tests are fairly good. Published data has around a 3% false positive rate though there can be false negatives early in infection.
3) The flu is a very different virus and is not detected by the covid tests.
 

squeezer

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No the virus doesn't exist and this is all a communist deep state plot.
Yes, I know. Plus now we are facing being chipped through the vaccine compliments of Bill Gates.

I'm wondering what has happened to TJ. Is it possible he contracted the Flu and is in an ICU or was he arrested storming the Capitol in support of his fearless maskless leader?
 

New World

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1) Many people (eg. in health) care will get tested regularly so it is likely that the actual percentage of the population that have been tested at some point will be less than 50%.
2) The tests are fairly good. Published data has around a 3% false positive rate though there can be false negatives early in infection.
3) The flu is a very different virus and is not detected by the covid tests.
Of the approx 7,000,000 test
Ontario has 213000 confirmed cases and 4909 deaths to date

Therefore if I take the 7000000 ÷ 218000. Is it wrong in thinking that is a 3% positivity rate?

Keeping in mind the total addressable market is 14.5million people.

Also keeping in mind recoveries are part of the equation but not being used in the sample

How is Public heath showing a circa 8+% infection rate?
 
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basketcase

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Of the approx 7,000,000 test
Ontario has 213000 confirmed cases and 4909 deaths to date

Therefore if I take the 7000000 ÷ 218000. Is it wrong in thinking that is a 3% positivity rate?

Keeping in mind the total addressable market is 14.5million people.

Also keeping in mind recoveries are part of the equation but not being used in the sample

How is Public heath showing a circa 8+% infection rate?
Is there a point to these easily answerable questions? If you actually want the answers you can find them.

Jan 10: 3945 new cases, 62308 tests 6.3% positivity rate.

Is that so hard?
 

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Is there a point to these easily answerable questions? If you actually want the answers you can find them.

Jan 10: 3945 new cases, 62308 tests 6.3% positivity rate.

Is that so hard?
No its not hard. But it not a true picture of the overall circumstance as we are a province if 14.5 million

Its what I expected. There is a substantial lack of transparency. The gov't and Public Health work for the (You & Me) tax payers. They have never come out and said Who/Where the highest risk of origin/transmission etc.

For example
When im reading the racing form and a particular horse has only raced qty 6 times in his life. If I was only take into account the most recent race and not all qty 6 races I would be doing myself an injustice.
 

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No its not hard. But it not a true picture of the overall circumstance as we are a province if 14.5 million

Its what I expected. There is a substantial lack of transparency. The gov't and Public Health work for the (You & Me) tax payers. They have never come out and said Who/Where the highest risk of origin/transmission etc.

For example
When im reading the racing form and a particular horse has only raced qty 6 times in his life. If I was only take into account the most recent race and not all qty 6 races I would be doing myself an injustice.
Considering all of this data is published daily, I don't know what you mean by lack of transparency. The provincial site has data from all public health units updated daily and the public health units all have their own sites.

What actually matters to people is the positivity rate in the area they currently are, not what the positivity rate in Kapuskasing was in August.
 

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What makes me laugh are claims of "100% occupancy" at hospitals that look empty to me

I do not think anyone actually believes in this pandemic conspiracy nonsense anymore
 

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Considering all of this data is published daily, I don't know what you mean by lack of transparency. The provincial site has data from all public health units updated daily and the public health units all have their own sites.

What actually matters to people is the positivity rate in the area they currently are, not what the positivity rate in Kapuskasing was in August.
Sure there is lots of data and to the common person its relevant.
That said. It lacks detail on logistics of transmission

For example
Ford comes on TV and says. Long Term Care is a problem. The virus is not coming in from the wall. What he is really saying is its coming in from the "essential care workers" who ( I will use this term loosely) provide care for the residents. And the Gov't cant do anything about Essential Care Workers fatigue, ignorance or carelessness..

Indeed these are the same Essential workers who earn minimum wage and have to work multiple jobs just to put food on the table and pay rent in a very expensive city.
 
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What makes me laugh are claims of "100% occupancy" at hospitals that look empty to me

I do not think anyone actually believes in this pandemic conspiracy nonsense anymore
Looks who's back...you must be upset that some of your anti masker dumbasses were charged over the weekend? You must be enjoying life right now eh? Bar hopping, eating at great restaurants, oh no wait...it's a lockdown....thanks to thr COVIDIDIOTS who selfishly prolong it.

 
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What makes me laugh are claims of "100% occupancy" at hospitals that look empty to me

I do not think anyone actually believes in this pandemic conspiracy nonsense anymore
Says the hospital stalker himself. Even in times when entry to hospitals (and especially ICUs) are closely monitored, TJ has the ability to go counting the number of beds. Either that or he's just making shit up.
 

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Sure there is lots of data and to the common person its relevant.
That said. It lacks detail on logistics of transmission

For example
Ford comes on TV and says. Long Term Care is a problem. The virus is not coming in from the wall. What he is really saying is its coming in from the "essential care workers" who ( I will use this term loosely) provide care for the residents. And the Gov't cant do anything about Essential Care Workers fatigue, ignorance or carelessness..

Indeed these are the same Essential workers who earn minimum wage and have to work multiple jobs just to put food on the table and pay rent in a very expensive city.
???

Do you not realize that there is this internet thing which has information on it?

Our contact tracing isn't great and there are quite a number of cases from unknown source (ie contact with asymptomatic people) but the known sources of transmission are published too.

And in case you missed it in the spring, part of the problem with LTC homes that was identified in the first wave was that they employ people as casual workers or temps meaning that they need to work at multiple locations to pay the bills. Sadly Ford has been more concerned about protecting his corporate LTC buddies from liability instead of trying to address this obvious weakness. There could easily be a bill requiring LTC workers to be full time employees but Doug's buddies would be mad at him.
 

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Says the hospital stalker himself. Even in times when entry to hospitals (and especially ICUs) are closely monitored, TJ has the ability to go counting the number of beds. Either that or he's just making shit up.
To the contrary
The entry to hospitals is the bullshit lie that you seem to believe in

As an example of just how nonsense it is, the Tim Hortons and the Gift Shop are BOTH OPEN as we speak inside the hospital
Explain that one to me if you think access is in any way restricted


And even for non life threatening issues (eg taking measurements) you can easily walk in
(parking lots are basically abandoned, it looks like mostly employee cars to me)
 

basketcase

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To the contrary
The entry to hospitals is the bullshit lie that you seem to believe in

As an example of just how nonsense it is, the Tim Hortons and the Gift Shop are BOTH OPEN as we speak inside the hospital
Explain that one to me if you think access is in any way restricted


And even for non life threatening issues (eg taking measurements) you can easily walk in
(parking lots are basically abandoned, it looks like mostly employee cars to me)
Do the hospitals near you line up ICU patients on beds in the lobby Timmies?

But thanks for admitting you haven't actually seen any ICU wards and are just talking bullshit.
 
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