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The election litigation thread

Dutch Oven

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Rand Paul and Judge Starr concisely explain at Senate hearing how the court decisions regarding elections should be interpreted:

 

kherg007

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Again, go under oath. See what was presented under oath. Full stop. Everything else is carnival barking.
 

Leimonis

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Rand Paul and Judge Starr concisely explain at Senate hearing how the court decisions regarding elections should be interpreted:

sorry cannot watch it right now, but can you please just concisely tell us: will Trump be leaving the White House on the 20th of January?
 

shack

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If you don't know what S means, you've overlooked the start of the thread.

While I'm not sure why this is any concern of yours, I'll offer a brief explanation. It should be obvious to you that I am not trying to engage in any exchange with Frank. I've made that clear to him. He is, however, perpetually trying to engage in exchanges with me (something about him being the guardian of truth, justice, and the Canadian way). I've tried responding in detail to his posts before. It's pointless. His posts really are all stupid, in such a multiplicity of ways - everything from mistating the arguments he purports to answer, to meaningless trolling, to irrational leaps of logic, to asserting himself as an expert in areas he can't possibly be one, to restating the same unpersuasive points and materials over and over, to weird and unfounded assertions of groupthink support for his opinions, and much, much more. It's a chore rather than a pleasure to disassemble each one of his posts, and really it's to no avail. He just comes back with more of the same. I honestly believe that no one cares about such exchanges anyway. Frank is the guy who always shows up at the same parties you do, annoys everyone with his inane opinions but can't even accept a polite, "please excuse me, but I'd really prefer not to talk to you about this". Instead he follows you around this party, inserting himself into your conversations with others.

So I'm trying something different. What's interesting is that it hasn't changed his approach one bit, thereby confirming everything I've said above. However, so far, I'm enjoying it much better, and it sure saves on the keystrokes. If it's bothering you, it's pretty easy for you to avoid reading, given how short my posts to Frank are.
Pretty much you answered none of my questions.

You've used S in multiple threads.

You have not said what it means.

If you are concerned about volume of keystrokes, saying nothing, as I suggested, is better than a nonsensical S.

With that explanation all I can say is that S=d'uh. It means nothing and it means that you have nothing to say.
 

Frankfooter

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Rand Paul and Judge Starr concisely explain at Senate hearing how the court decisions regarding elections should be interpreted:

Rand Paul admitting that his issue isn't with illegal voters, just voters in general.
The GOP, especially in Georgia, can only hold on through voter suppression.
Stopping people from voting at all is more key than fraud to him.

 
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basketcase

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Wonder how long this thread is going to last. 150 years from now are we still going to have Americans singing songs about Trump and having MAGA flags on their pickup trucks?
 
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toguy5252

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I didn't avoid your question. I actually answered your question by referring you to the article, at least in part. If you are asking me the hypothetical of what I think should happen (rather than a legal opinion) if a President is elected and inaugurated fraudulently, I think if the fraud is directed by that President, he/she should simply be removed and a new election ordered for which the deposed President is an ineligible candidate, if it was directed by other parties, there should be a removal and new election ordered where both candidates can, again, stand for election. However, as the article discloses, there is serious doubt by many whether the constitution can be interpreted to allow for this remedy. While impeachment is possible, it can be easily thwarted. I'm not confident that even clear fraud would force BOTH parties to allow that process to operate.

What leads to this discussion is not the personalities involved in this election, but rather the inability or unwillingness of the legal system to allow the allegations being made to be fully and openly tested in a prompt fashion. As a result, it appears more and more likely to me that this litigation, as well as legislative branch hearings into the election security issues being raised, are likely to continue as much as 1 -2 years into the next presidency before being finally resolved, and that more and more allegations will be advanced as the process moves forward. What the final assessment of these allegations will be is difficult to predict.
A determination that a POTUS had acted fraudulently could only be made by the SCOTUS. It is not up to Lindsay Graham or Rand Paul or Rudy to make that determination. that being said there may be some acts which are so egregious that the election would be a nullity.

You keep referring to an inability or unwillingness of the legal system to deal with this matter. That is simply untrue and either dishonest or disingenuous. There have been 60 cases in which a court has dealt with this matter. Your fearless leader is subject to the same rules of law and procedure as other litigants an he has failed in almost every case. that is just a fact and repeating Russian propaganda will not change that. The final assessment of these allegations has been made. get over it and deal with reality. Destroying |America will ot help even though the soon to be former sire loser in chief thinks it well. When will you and your fellow travelers get it through your head that he cares nothing for you or the country.
 
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squeezer

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Oh no, the Kracken faces a possible lawsuit! How can this be possible? What's next, Rudy is sued by JustForMen?

 

mandrill

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Wonder how long this thread is going to last. 150 years from now are we still going to have Americans singing songs about Trump and having MAGA flags on their pickup trucks?
Apparently there are Colombians who - to this day - sing folk songs about Pablo Escobar and consider him a patriot and a friend to the Poor Man.

Same sort of self-inflicted blindness.
 

Valcazar

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Rand Paul and Judge Starr concisely explain at Senate hearing how the court decisions regarding elections should be interpreted:
Rand Paul and Ken Starr misrepresenting the law?
What is this, a day that ends in "Y"?
 
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Frankfooter

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Wonder how long this thread is going to last. 150 years from now are we still going to have Americans singing songs about Trump and having MAGA flags on their pickup trucks?
This thread ends when bud/dutch oven finally gives up and comes up with a new name here.
Like with the James Fields threads.
 

Perry Mason

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I can't believe Rand Paul really said this: “I’m very, very concerned that if you solicit votes from typically non-voters, that you will affect and change the outcome.”

WTF! Silly me! I thought that was the very purpose of elections!!!!

Perry
 

Fun For All

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Oh no, the Kracken faces a possible lawsuit! How can this be possible? What's next, Rudy is sued by JustForMen?

I hope Dominion doesn’t back down...either get Sidney Powell to make a very humbling apology refraction or suit her for a couple hundred million dollars.
 

squeezer

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The scary thing is the US has many many nukes and many many stupid people. This is not a very good combination. Imagine if Trump had been a warmonger?
 

toguy5252

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Rand Paul and Judge Starr concisely explain at Senate hearing how the court decisions regarding elections should be interpreted:


I am truly perplexed by you. You seem at least superficially intelligent but when you post on this topic you are either playing with everyone or really dumb. What is perplexing is that I find it hard to believe that you are really that dumb.
 
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