Tragic-young child dead in Lindsay

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This comment is a joke right? It has nothing to do with the case of the kid in Lindsay. Regardless, the media didn't start anything in the George Floyd case. They presented what happened: A man cruelly murdered by a bunch of rogue cops. Well meaning cops? You're saying he deserved what he got? Maybe you're the one who is biased?

This is a joke right? The media started world-wide riots from their biased coverage on the George Floyd case. They painted him as the pope when in reality he was a degenerate fentanyl junkie who had been to prison 8 times. While the made two well meaning cops out to be the villains.
 

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The cops in Kawartha Lakes was simply a case of escalating illegal use of force
Even if 1 year old boy was not shot, if they shot/killed the father it would still be criminal
 
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I’m not usually big on GoFundMes but this is a worthy cause. I will donate to this.

Poor guy. Totally wrong place, wrong time.

Police insurance should be paying for his injuries. It sucks the truck and tools have been seized. They should be returned ASAP.
 

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Took them MONTHS to conclude what was obvious to most of us
Cops shot & killed a child
Ballistics sure take a long time to differentiate guns huh
I am sure burying it all this time hoping public forgets had nothing to do with it



The SIU’s findings come 77 days after the shooting, amid a lack of public transparency during the investigation.

Last month, the SIU said that none of the officers who opened fire on a pickup truck had agreed to interviews, adding that they had no legal obligation to do so.
 

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Took them MONTHS to conclude what was obvious to most of us
Cops shot & killed a child
Ballistics sure take a long time to differentiate guns huh
I am sure burying it all this time hoping public forgets had nothing to do with it



The SIU’s findings come 77 days after the shooting, amid a lack of public transparency during the investigation.

Last month, the SIU said that none of the officers who opened fire on a pickup truck had agreed to interviews, adding that they had no legal obligation to do so.
There is something seriously rotten in this province. The shooters have not been interviewed?!!! No legal obligation?!!! WTF is this??? How many shots were fired? Did they know a toddler was in the car? Did they identify the target before pulling the trigger? Oh how I wish that the kid was black.
 

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There is something seriously rotten in this province. The shooters have not been interviewed?!!! No legal obligation?!!! WTF is this??? How many shots were fired? Did they know a toddler was in the car? Did they identify the target before pulling the trigger? Oh how I wish that the kid was black.
I'd copy and paste the quote but I can't find it. It was some regional politician where this happened commented today essentially that the blame for the babies death lays solely with the father and expressed concern for what the mother and officer that shot the boy must be going threw.

After that I thought well we know now the father and baby weren't black otherwise he'd be taking a knee in protest instead.
 
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There is something seriously rotten in this province. The shooters have not been interviewed?!!! No legal obligation?!!! WTF is this??? How many shots were fired? Did they know a toddler was in the car? Did they identify the target before pulling the trigger? Oh how I wish that the kid was black.
Yes they knew son in car (it was an alleged child abduction)
 

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I'd copy and paste the quote but I can't find it. It was some regional politician where this happened commented today essentially that the blame for the babies death lays solely with the father and expressed concern for what the mother and officer that shot the boy must be going threw.

After that I thought well we know now the father and baby weren't black otherwise he'd be taking a knee in protest instead.
Honestly, I would settle for some transparency, maybe honesty and maybe even some responsibility.
 
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I’m not usually big on GoFundMes but this is a worthy cause. I will donate to this.

Poor guy. Totally wrong place, wrong time.

Police insurance should be paying for his injuries. It sucks the truck and tools have been seized. They should be returned ASAP.
It really unbelievable that police get paid leave for years while civilians caught up in their screwups gut hung out to dry.
 

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Although the officers have not been interviewed by the SIU an outside police department is probing the officers conduct, charges may be laid... I think at least one officer will be charged, likely with careless use of a firearm, or something similar... but you and I both know what will happen in the end... a whole lot of nothing...the whole entire situation is terrible. If the father stopped this whole entire situation could have been avoided!
 

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Although the officers have not been interviewed by the SIU an outside police department is probing the officers conduct, charges may be laid... I think at least one officer will be charged, likely with careless use of a firearm, or something similar... but you and I both know what will happen in the end... a whole lot of nothing...the whole entire situation is terrible. If the father stopped this whole entire situation could have been avoided!
The Cops knew the perp was both armed and had abducted a child. He also blew through a spike belt injuring an officer. At that point the Cops knew they were dealing with a potentially violent person. The Cops had to make a split second decision. Fire shots in an effort to stop the perp, with the possibility injuring or killing the child, or wait and see if he shoots one of the officers first? Remember, he's already injured one officer. What would you do?

And yes, the father certainly escalated the situation.
 

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The Cops knew the perp was both armed and had abducted a child. He also blew through a spike belt injuring an officer.

And yes, the father certainly escalated the situation.
Whatever you are on must be some potent stuff

It was not a real abduction, it was a custody dispute between a man and woman. Its not like he was snatching a kid (fuck for once cops did NOT even feel they needed to send an Amber alert)

The spike strip is certainly not visible (if it was it would not work lol) and losing control of his vehicle is hardly intent to injure (also note the officers "injury" was so minor he did not even require medical help; the "injured" officer was fully able to exit his vehicle, whip out his weapon, open fire, and KILL a CHILD that he knew was in the vehicle)

They then denied all media requests and took MONTHS to release the official report while said officer collected his $$$

The father and the child died of gun shot wounds from the police

And you claim the FATHER was the cause of escalation??? Seriously???
 

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Whatever you are on must be some potent stuff

It was not a real abduction, it was a custody dispute between a man and woman. Its not like he was snatching a kid (fuck for once cops did NOT even feel they needed to send an Amber alert)
Whatever I'm on? Make up your mind. Remember what you said in post #51? I'll refresh your memory. "Yes they knew son in car (it was an alleged child abduction)"

In fact, according to the Special Investigations Unit, police were told that a father had allegedly abducted his son. And he was armed.

A resident told CTV News Toronto that he sheltered a woman, her mother-in-law and a three year-old child after the abduction occurred nearby.


The spike strip is certainly not visible (if it was it would not work lol) and losing control of his vehicle is hardly intent to injure (also note the officers "injury" was so minor he did not even require medical help; the "injured" officer was fully able to exit his vehicle, whip out his weapon, open fire, and KILL a CHILD that he knew was in the vehicle)
You're a piece of work. Maybe read up on a topic before you make comments like that. For starters, police tried to pull over the perp, but he fled. Then he stuck the officer as he was laying down a spike belt, and was not inside his vehicle during the collision. It's therefore unlikely that it went down as you say.

Minor injury? The officer was seriously injured and hospitalized for 2 months afterwards. So my guess is, he wasn't one of the three who opened fire. Now unless you have inside information, you have no idea which officer fired and struck the child.


They then denied all media requests and took MONTHS to release the official report while said officer collected his $$$
So you want them to release information before the official report was released and suspend all officers without pay even though no one's been charged charged?

The father and the child died of gun shot wounds from the police

And you claim the FATHER was the cause of escalation??? Seriously???
That's true, the child died from a police bullet. But the fact remains, the father abducted the child, he was armed, he refused to stop for police, struck and seriously injured a police officer and became involved in a confrontation following the crash. So yes, I do think the father was the cause of the escalation.

It's an extremely sad situation and we'll have to wait for the SIU's report to see if any charges will be laid.
 

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Whatever I'm on? Make up your mind. Remember what you said in post #51? I'll refresh your memory. "Yes they knew son in car (it was an alleged child abduction)"
I do not see any contradiction here???
I said it was an "alleged abduction"
And I said it was "not a real abduction"

Both of those facts line up to mean the same thing...
It was a custody battle
Nothing more

I personally think its pretty pathetic exes using our amber alert systems and police like that but that is an argument for another thread


Minor injury? The officer was seriously injured and hospitalized for 2 months afterwards. So my guess is, he wasn't one of the three who opened fire. Now unless you have inside information, you have no idea which officer fired and struck the child.
The police in incident were ID already
Only question now is whether charges will be laid or not (should be)

So you want them to release information before the official report was released and suspend all officers without pay even though no one's been charged charged?
The fact noone is charged yet is the worst thing about this (even media is chipping in how ridiculous this situation is)
The point I made (months ago) is the cops carry a certain type or weapon, the father had a different type
There were some apologists who tried to make the nonsense claim the father shot his own kid while driving
Beyond the physical impossibility of this, I pointed out it was obvious the cops opened fire (all 3 of them) and there was no need for ballistics as all 3 should be charged for murder
 

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I do not see any contradiction here???
I said it was an "alleged abduction"
And I said it was "not a real abduction"

Both of those facts line up to mean the same thing...
It was a custody battle
Nothing more
While we don't know the what custody arrangement they had, it's pretty easy to read between the lines. Mother was fearful for the safety of her child and herself. The OPP were called to the municipality of Trent Lakes for a domestic dispute involving a firearm. Officers were later made aware that a 33-year-old man had allegedly abducted his one-year-old son and that he was armed. The man is stopped by Police but fled the scene. He later crashed into a Police and civilian vehicles injuring an Officer. That goes way beyond the threshold of a simple custody battle.


The police in incident were ID already
Only question now is whether charges will be laid or not (should be)
That's what the SIU investigation is for.


The fact noone is charged yet is the worst thing about this (even media is chipping in how ridiculous this situation is)
What do you suggest, charge the Officers then complete the investigation? The SIU has 32 people to interview. I'm not making excuses for them but these things take time.


The point I made (months ago) is the cops carry a certain type or weapon, the father had a different type
There were some apologists who tried to make the nonsense claim the father shot his own kid while driving
Beyond the physical impossibility of this, I pointed out it was obvious the cops opened fire (all 3 of them) and there was no need for ballistics as all 3 should be charged for murder
No need for ballistics, just charge all 3 Officers for murder. Hahaha... You really are a piece of work!
 
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