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Phil C. McNasty

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Sweden's strategy in comparison to it's Nordic bordering neighbours Denmark, Norway, Finland who all saw the spread of the Coronavirus in the same timeline, but Sweden took a different route proves that Sweden's strategy of no shutdowns and little if any mandated preventive measures in place for the public will leave more people unnecessarily vulnerable to the Coronavirus and that in affect will have substantially higher unnecessary deaths amongst the general population
Sweden's deaths per capita are lower than UK, Spain, Italy and Belgium
 

lenny2

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Sweden's deaths per capita are lower than UK, Spain, Italy and Belgium
1. Irrelevant.

2. Sweden's deaths per capita are higher than the vast majority of other nations on earth.

3. Sweden's policy failed.

4. Sweden is now looking to lockdowns to save them. lol.
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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1. Irrelevant.

2. Sweden's deaths per capita are higher than the vast majority of other nations on earth.

3. Sweden's policy failed.

4. Sweden is now looking to lockdowns to save them. lol
Sweden's deaths per capita are lower than UK, Spain, Italy and Belgium
 

MindJohn

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These people who say masks don't work are fucking idiots who are probably confused by how walls, blankets, and other similar technologies work.
Well put.

This thread is akin to suggesting that a blanket doesn't work merely because water would leak/drain through it.


A mask probably does better at protecting the surrounding planet from one individual than a single condom does at protecting the wearer from herpes present in their partner.


Neither stops every potential threat, but the mask thing is far more useful in guarding society against your Covid than one condom is at guarding your sex partner against your herpes.


Besides, we're not hearing stories of significant numbers of mask failures.

There was an exceptional story in the American midwest about a hair salon where mask regulations were in place (both for stylists and customers) and where one stylist acquired Covid from some random place in her life... then, without masks present, gave Covid to her coworker. The two of them styled the hair of 159 customers over X days while each had Covid and before either was tested.

The two of them also did not wear masks at home, and each gave Covid to numerous residents in their homes.

But, zero of the other stylists acquired Covid from these two, and zero of the 159 customers tested positive for Covid.

(this setting unique because of phone numbers and contact info for the many customers, unlike in most cases with grocery stores and the like)


We're just not hearing/reading of unique scenarios where the opposite implications about mask safety are coming out.
 

MindJohn

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It proves that the Swedish model worked better than some countries which mandated masks

That's complete cluelessness.


Sweden is one of several countries who were initially saved by the fact that nobody was going to them in significant numbers during the northern winter.

The countries hit hardest in the early stages were those which still number among the most visited countries in the world.

The spread of Covid has been largely a function of wealth, freedom, and desirability as a destination.

Communist countries and dictatorships are doing relatively well against Covid.

The free and wealthy countries are in great numbers being inundated by Covid.

Once Norway and Finland closed their borders, Sweden was effectively protected despite not taking any significant measures themselves.


"The Swedish model" cannot even be accurately tested outside of such a time where all other countries on earth would be free to let their Covid cases flow toward Sweden.

Were this a gauge of any other substance, nobody would accept your far-fetched implication that to be the one country still widely "open" amid a sea of all other countries "closed" proved that the "open" model worked in any significant way.
 

doggystyle99

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That's complete cluelessness.

Sweden is one of several countries who were initially saved by the fact that nobody was going to them in significant numbers during the northern winter.

The countries hit hardest in the early stages were those which still number among the most visited countries in the world.

The spread of Covid has been largely a function of wealth, freedom, and desirability as a destination.

Communist countries and dictatorships are doing relatively well against Covid.

The free and wealthy countries are in great numbers being inundated by Covid.

Once Norway and Finland closed their borders, Sweden was effectively protected despite not taking any significant measures themselves.

"The Swedish model" cannot even be accurately tested outside of such a time where all other countries on earth would be free to let their Covid cases flow toward Sweden.

Were this a gauge of any other substance, nobody would accept your far-fetched implication that to be the one country still widely "open" amid a sea of all other countries "closed" proved that the "open" model worked in any significant way.
Phil claims he's lived in Europe and does not think there are a lot of similarities between Nordic nations or that they have vast differences to other European countries which has affects on the spread of the Coronavirus.

But he does have a European passport so that gives his non factual opinions more credence. :ROFLMAO:

 
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Phil C. McNasty

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Phil claims he's lived in Europe and does not think there are a lot of similarities between Nordic nations or that they have vast differences to other European countries which has affects on the spread of the Coronavirus.

But he does have a European passport so that gives his non factual opinions more credence. :ROFLMAO:

More credence then you will ever have.

You said something along the lines of Swedes tend to listen to their government better.
Do you have any stats or other evidence to back this up??
 

Phil C. McNasty

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That's complete cluelessness.


Sweden is one of several countries who were initially saved by the fact that nobody was going to them in significant numbers during the northern winter.

The countries hit hardest in the early stages were those which still number among the most visited countries in the world.

The spread of Covid has been largely a function of wealth, freedom, and desirability as a destination.

Communist countries and dictatorships are doing relatively well against Covid.

The free and wealthy countries are in great numbers being inundated by Covid.

Once Norway and Finland closed their borders, Sweden was effectively protected despite not taking any significant measures themselves.


"The Swedish model" cannot even be accurately tested outside of such a time where all other countries on earth would be free to let their Covid cases flow toward Sweden.

Were this a gauge of any other substance, nobody would accept your far-fetched implication that to be the one country still widely "open" amid a sea of all other countries "closed" proved that the "open" model worked in any significant way.
Sweden's deaths per capita are lower than UK, Spain, Italy and Belgium.


There is also this:

 

doggystyle99

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More credence then you will ever have.

You said something along the lines of Swedes tend to listen to their government better.
Do you have any stats or other evidence to back this up??
Like I said you've lived an uninformed life in Europe if you haven't understood the high degree of similarities of Nordic nations to one another and the vast difference to the rest of Europe. Now go and read and understand the similarities to one another and the differences to others.
Now what's even more entertaining is your nonsenses is spewing after the highest number of cases was just reported in Sweden, showing you lacking the basic understanding.
Time to phone a friend (FB Friend) again :ROFLMAO:
 
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doggystyle99

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In case people want to understand this is what a downward trend really looks like :ROFLMAO:

Oct 7---------831
Oct 8---------835
Oct 9---------783
Oct 10-------509
Oct 11-------161
Oct 12-------637
Oct 13-------916
Oct 14-------968
Oct 15-------904
Oct 16-------1180
Oct 17-------698
Oct 18-------321
Oct 19-------771
Oct 20-------1293
Oct 21-------1206


Of course there is also the 7 day average showing the downward trend as well :ROFLMAO:

Sept 1--------162
Oct 21--------911
Here are the new re adjusted number of cases for Sweden 2 weeks later they are still adjusting confirmed cases.

Oct 13--------916
Oct 14--------968
Oct 15--------903
Oct 16--------1180
Oct 17--------697
Oct 18--------321
Oct 19--------771
Oct 20--------1292
Oct 21--------1573

Oct 22--------1668
Oct 23--------1870----------Highest number of cases/day reported in Sweden
Oct 24--------1478
Oct 25--------516

Oct 26--------922

The 7 day average has increased by over 1,100 cases/day since Sept 1

Sept 1--------162
Oct 26--------1,331
 

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Sweden's deaths per capita are lower than UK, Spain, Italy and Belgium.
You keep repeating this, like 10 times, while ignoring the replies to you, but so what? Do you have a point?

1. Irrelevant.

2. Sweden's deaths per capita are higher than the vast majority of other nations on earth.

3. Sweden's policy failed.

4. Sweden is now looking to lockdowns to save them. lol
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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You keep repeating this, like 10 times, while ignoring the replies to you, but so what? Do you have a point?

1. Irrelevant.

2. Sweden's deaths per capita are higher than the vast majority of other nations on earth.

3. Sweden's policy failed.

4. Sweden is now looking to lockdowns to save them. lol
Sweden's deaths per capita are lower than UK, Spain, Italy and Belgium
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Like I said you've lived an uninformed life in Europe if you haven't understood the high degree of similarities of Nordic nations to one another and the vast difference to the rest of Europe. Now go and read and understand the similarities to one another and the differences to others.
Now what's even more entertaining is your nonsenses is spewing after the highest number of cases was just reported in Sweden, showing you lacking the basic understanding.
Time to phone a friend (FB Friend) again :ROFLMAO:
You said something along the lines of Swedes tend to listen to their government better.
Do you have any stats or other evidence to back this up??
 

doggystyle99

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You said something along the lines of Swedes tend to listen to their government better.
Do you have any stats or other evidence to back this up??
Since you have a hard time reading and understanding the important part of posts I've highlighted the part where you should re read and understand.
But then again you lived in Europe and you didn't understand the difference between Italy and Sweden in the number of elderly over 65 years of age was over 11 Million people, you only viewed it as a 3% difference and insignificant. SMH
It's mind boggling how you are so misinformed about everything you post. But hey you have a European passport so that alone gives your non factual opinions more credence. :ROFLMAO:

Like I said you've lived an uninformed life in Europe if you haven't understood the high degree of similarities of Nordic nations to one another and the vast difference to the rest of Europe. Now go and read and understand the similarities to one another and the differences to others.
Now what's even more entertaining is your nonsenses is spewing after the highest number of cases was just reported in Sweden, showing you lacking the basic understanding.
Time to phone a friend (FB Friend) again :ROFLMAO:
 
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Sweden's deaths per capita are lower than UK, Spain, Italy and Belgium
Still waiting for you to explain how being the 4th worst out of 40 or so European countries is supposed to be a good thing.

p.s. Sweden's daily case count has hit higher than during the spring peak. So much for herd immunity.
 
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lenny2

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Sweden's deaths per capita are lower than UK, Spain, Italy and Belgium
You keep repeating this, like 10 times, while ignoring the replies to you, but so what? Do you have a point?

1. Irrelevant.

2. Sweden's deaths per capita are higher than the vast majority of other nations on earth.

3. Sweden's policy failed.

4. Sweden is now looking to lockdowns to save them. lol
 

lenny2

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This is all irrelevant. If you are built like a tank and are graced with amazing genetics. Covid19 has no chance to infect you. Why worry? Lol
How do you know if you qualify?

Covid has infected many such people.

What about worrying about someone else besides oneself, such as relatives or others one may murder with their infection?
 
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