If people were smart, restaurant and bar would go out of business regardless if they are shut down by government or not. If people were smart, they should understand that the measure of risk is continuous, so, if the restaurants are allowed to be open it does not mean they are safe to go to , and, same way, if the government decides to shut them down tomorrow, it does not mean that they were safe today but will be dangerous tomorrow. If people were smart, they should have refrained from going to restaurants and bars for the next year or two. Unfortunately, most people are dumb.
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And this is something that government should not have done - throwing money into dying industry.
While the mega corps which are real estate companies wil not, the owners and francise owners will.
Mcdonalds does not care if sells a single burger if they could convince people there brand and stores would make a francise money without sales. The sales are sales for the suckers who get the franchise. McDonaldsmakes money on the land, and the contract. As the movie points out the corp is real estate company not a food company.,
If you to biz school this industry is considered the worst. It still in near perfect competition - you have to eat but you do not have to eat at any particular place. Ignoring the master ownder (the brand) the owner does not car the TIm Hortons around the street is doing well -they want there Tim Hortons to do well.
Back in the day eating hours had an incredible fail rate - as a customer you proably rarely notice since a new management buys the place, and begins the cycle all over again thinking they can do a better job.
Margins are thin, labour costs are high. Rent is high. If not near full capacity they do not make money. Its generally a horrible biz in the best of times. In a pandemic . . .
The truth, unfortunately, is that a restaurant is universally regarded as one of the worst businesses you can start. That is according to many reputed sources such as Forbes, American Express, Business Collective etc. In fact, in the United States, restaurant is the industry most likely to make their investors lose their entire investment. There’s not much reasons to assume it is very different in other regions of the world.
So naturally comes the question – why is a restaurant such a bad idea?
Because everyone has to eat everyone things that such a biz is a great idea. But that is akin to everyone has to breath or drink so water sales and air sales are also amazing ideas. The water industry not too bad - as would the air industry - the product is free so the profits are near a 100% but you have to convince the public to buy bottled water and air. As a note, most bottled water is more polluted than Toronto tap water. About 1/2 of bottled water comes from the tap to begin with, but not the Toronto tap. Toronto has among the cleanest tap water there is.
Yet people buy tap water in a bottle (inferior tap) rather than free water. Its in industry like tuplips or diamonds -ready to collapse at a moments notice
Guide to Safe Tap Water and Water Filters
Drinking tap water should be safe, affordable, and taste good. Follow our guide to check your tap water quality and find the best filtration system for you.
www.foodandwaterwatch.org
Why a Restaurant is the Worst Business Idea
It is no secret that owning a restaurant seems like the hottest entrepreneurial idea lately. A decade back, by restaurants we meant Tehari Ghor, Xindian, Malancha and the likes.
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McDonald’s isn’t just a fast-food chain—it’s a brilliant $30 billion real-estate company
With all the ups and downs of the burger business there's one thing McDonald's can count on: rent.
qz.com
All he ever says at his press conferences:
I’m a business man, and a great one at that!!
I’m not a doctor
Best health and science
Friends and Yahoo’s
Time for Ford to get a new speech writer
I feel sympathy for those restaurent owners who had to closed their business or on the verge of closing the business. But as consumer of restaurants and love to eating out, I feel this shut down actually good for consumer. The shut down allow restaurants that serve crappy food to close down. As return, a better restaurant will be opened. All my favoriate resaturents in Toronto that serve quality are really busy with take outs.List of restaurants which have closed since Covid started 9 months ago. And thats just for the GTA:
Toronto restaurants and bars that have permanently closed since the pandemic began | Dished
Some Toronto restaurants and bars have shifted their business models to offer delivery, takeout, and more due to COVID-19. Others have not.dailyhive.com
BBs Diner – 76 Lippincott Street
Brothers – 1240 Bay Street
Universal Grill – 1071 Shaw Street
L’Arc En Ciel – 376 College Street
Café Crêpe – 246 Queen Street West
The Beaver – 1192 Queen Street West
True True Diner – 169 King Street East
Wexford Restaurant – 2072 Lawrence Avenue East
JJ Bean – Various locations
Supernova Ballroom – 330 Bay Street
Golden Thai Restaurant – 105 Church Street
Taiyaki NYC – 128 Dundas Street West
Live Organic Food Bar – 264 Dupont Street
Sorelle and Co – 1271 Denison Street
Scallywags – 11 St. Clair Avenue West
Carmen – 922 Queen Street West
Poutini’s – 1112 Queen Street West
Cauldron Ice Cream – 502 Queen Street West
Trattoria Giancarlo – 41 Clinton Street
Virtuous Pie – 611 College Street
Roselle West – 108 Dovercourt Road
Tennessee Tavern – 1554 Queen Street West
Pray Tell – 838 College Street
Labothery – 120 Adelaide Street West; 717 Bay Street, Unit D
Dino’s – 4923 Dundas Street West
Tucker’s Marketplace – all locations have closed, including 15 Carlson Court, Etobicoke
Butter Avenue – 477 Queen Street West
Crocodile Rock – 240 Adelaide Street West
Southern Accent – 839 College Street
Il Gatto Nero – 720 College Street
Jules Bistro – 147 Spadina Avenue
Nando’s – 21 locations have closed for good across the country
NishDish – 690 Bloor Street West
Pappas Grill – 440 Danforth Avenue
The Shore Leave – 1775 Danforth Avenue
Pancho Y Emiliano – 291 King Street West
Plentea – 1205 Queen Street West
Prohibition Gastrohouse – 696 Queen Street East
The Hideout – 423 College Street
The Red Light – 1185 Dundas Street West
The Lansdowne Cone – 659 Lansdowne Avenue
Vesuvio Pizzeria – 3010 Dundas Street West
N’Awlins Jazz Bar & Grill – 299 King Street West
Daves… – 730 St Clair Avenue West
deKEFIR – 333 Bay Street
120 Diner – 120 Church Street
The Grand Elvis – 176 Dupont Street
The White Brick Kitchen – 641 Bloor Street West
Luci Restaurant – 664 The Queensway
Yeon – 465 Queen Street West
Canis Restaurant – 746 Queen Street West
AMA – 930 Queen Street West
Gandhi Indian Cuisine – 554 Queen Street West
Clove Apple Cafe – 1405 Queen Street West
Evy & Flo Cafe – 713 Gerrard Street East
Moo Frites – 178 Baldwin Street
Burgatory – 719 College Street
Don Alfonso 1890 – 19 Toronto Street (Have recently opened a new pop-up)
SoSo Food Club – 1166 Dundas Street West
The Office Pub – 117 John Street
Frankie Tomatto’s – 7225 Woodbine Avenue, Markham
The Ellery – 1870 Danforth Ave
The White Brick Kitchen – 641 Bloor Street West
Stones Place – 1255 Queen Street West
Wayne Gretzky’s Toronto – 99 Blue Jays Way
Emmy’s Icecream – 426 St Clarens Avenue
Victorian Monkey – 2386 Kingston Road, Scarborough
Brass Taps Pizza Pub – 493 Danforth Avenue
I’ll be seeing you… – 747 Queen Street East
Ronto’s – 772 College Street
Dark Horse Espresso – 125 John Street
The Ossington – 61 Ossington Avenue
We were talking about Ontario shutdowns and 1000’s of restaurants being affected here now you’re talking about across Canada, 1000’s across Canada yes probably, 1000’s in Ontario highly unlikely.
Not all of the above restaurants have closed due to COVID.List of restaurants which have closed since Covid started 9 months ago. And thats just for the GTA:
Toronto restaurants and bars that have permanently closed since the pandemic began | Dished
Some Toronto restaurants and bars have shifted their business models to offer delivery, takeout, and more due to COVID-19. Others have not.
BBs Diner – 76 Lippincott Street
Brothers – 1240 Bay Street
Universal Grill – 1071 Shaw Street
L’Arc En Ciel – 376 College Street
Café Crêpe – 246 Queen Street West
The Beaver – 1192 Queen Street West
True True Diner – 169 King Street East
Wexford Restaurant – 2072 Lawrence Avenue East
JJ Bean – Various locations
Supernova Ballroom – 330 Bay Street
Golden Thai Restaurant – 105 Church Street
Taiyaki NYC – 128 Dundas Street West
Live Organic Food Bar – 264 Dupont Street
Sorelle and Co – 1271 Denison Street
Scallywags – 11 St. Clair Avenue West
Carmen – 922 Queen Street West
Poutini’s – 1112 Queen Street West
Cauldron Ice Cream – 502 Queen Street West
Trattoria Giancarlo – 41 Clinton Street
Virtuous Pie – 611 College Street
Roselle West – 108 Dovercourt Road
Tennessee Tavern – 1554 Queen Street West
Pray Tell – 838 College Street
Labothery – 120 Adelaide Street West; 717 Bay Street, Unit D
Dino’s – 4923 Dundas Street West
Tucker’s Marketplace – all locations have closed, including 15 Carlson Court, Etobicoke
Butter Avenue – 477 Queen Street West
Crocodile Rock – 240 Adelaide Street West
Southern Accent – 839 College Street
Il Gatto Nero – 720 College Street
Jules Bistro – 147 Spadina Avenue
Nando’s – 21 locations have closed for good across the country
NishDish – 690 Bloor Street West
Pappas Grill – 440 Danforth Avenue
The Shore Leave – 1775 Danforth Avenue
Pancho Y Emiliano – 291 King Street West
Plentea – 1205 Queen Street West
Prohibition Gastrohouse – 696 Queen Street East
The Hideout – 423 College Street
The Red Light – 1185 Dundas Street West
The Lansdowne Cone – 659 Lansdowne Avenue
Vesuvio Pizzeria – 3010 Dundas Street West
N’Awlins Jazz Bar & Grill – 299 King Street West
Daves… – 730 St Clair Avenue West
deKEFIR – 333 Bay Street
120 Diner – 120 Church Street
The Grand Elvis – 176 Dupont Street
The White Brick Kitchen – 641 Bloor Street West
Luci Restaurant – 664 The Queensway
Yeon – 465 Queen Street West
Canis Restaurant – 746 Queen Street West
AMA – 930 Queen Street West
Gandhi Indian Cuisine – 554 Queen Street West
Clove Apple Cafe – 1405 Queen Street West
Evy & Flo Cafe – 713 Gerrard Street East
Moo Frites – 178 Baldwin Street
Burgatory – 719 College Street
Don Alfonso 1890 – 19 Toronto Street (Have recently opened a new pop-up)
SoSo Food Club – 1166 Dundas Street West
The Office Pub – 117 John Street
Frankie Tomatto’s – 7225 Woodbine Avenue, Markham
The Ellery – 1870 Danforth Ave
The White Brick Kitchen – 641 Bloor Street West
Stones Place – 1255 Queen Street West
Wayne Gretzky’s Toronto – 99 Blue Jays Way
Emmy’s Icecream – 426 St Clarens Avenue
Victorian Monkey – 2386 Kingston Road, Scarborough
Brass Taps Pizza Pub – 493 Danforth Avenue
I’ll be seeing you… – 747 Queen Street East
Ronto’s – 772 College Street
Dark Horse Espresso – 125 John Street
The Ossington – 61 Ossington Avenue
No it's people like you infringing on my life. If you get sick and spread it to others who can spread it to me. Then I get sick and possibly die. I have a right to live. You don't have a right to decide other people's fate. Do you honestly think the government wants to shut down to control your life? They are bleeding money. What's in it for them? Take off your tinfoil hat for a second and ask yourself this question.
fundamentally this is where the disagreements happen. Whose responsibility is it?
Imo, youre wrong. Im not responsible for you. When Im sick who takes care of me? My loved ones. Did we ever blame others in the office when we got sick? Of course not.
no one is forcing you to attend dine in restaurants. You determine your own risk tolerance. As do each of us, period. Unless someone is purposely crossing the line like spitting on us, invading personal space etc.we are responsible for ourselves, period.
My parents dont see my siblings nor myself after we’ve been back on a domestic flight for 14 days as this is what my parents wish. Thats them being responsible for themselves and their own risk tolerance so we respect that.
When Hudak said "fire 100,000 workers", these Conservative were dancing in the streets.
Now 100,000 people are out of a job, Conservatives are mad.
Which is it ?
Do you want people fired or not ?
Now 100,000 people are out of a job, Conservatives are mad.
Which is it ?
Do you want people fired or not ?
If I get sick from Covid, then people like CanadaMan and Decoy should be charged with "criminal neglieance(sic) causing death".
i pay taxes too, and “unnecessary” risks is subjective. Also at my age im more likely to die of plenty of other causes than covid. So if you want to play that game then lets factor in risks at each respective age group and not a one size fits all approach.
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I agree with Ford the Yahoo's need to be outed, and fined for being Yahoo's during a pandemic. Glad Ford so far is listening to the doctors and professionals in the field, and the science behind the Coronavirus rather than making his decisions rashly based on anecdotal evidence.
The entire government, for 25 years, has been tax cuts to rich people and cuts to poor people.
Rinse and repeat.
Poor people have nothing left to give.
Rich people refuse to pay their "fair share".
The only people left to pay for corona is the middle class, through taxes.
That's the greatest fear of people like decoy.
Before it was "denial about corona", then anger.
He's in the stage of "bargaining".
Later will come a depression, most likely when he files his taxes next year.
Finally acceptance ... the acceptance that rich people got tax breaks, while he has to pay.
AND PAY HE WILL.
BIG MONEY !!!
Rinse and repeat.
Poor people have nothing left to give.
Rich people refuse to pay their "fair share".
The only people left to pay for corona is the middle class, through taxes.
That's the greatest fear of people like decoy.
Before it was "denial about corona", then anger.
He's in the stage of "bargaining".
Later will come a depression, most likely when he files his taxes next year.
Finally acceptance ... the acceptance that rich people got tax breaks, while he has to pay.
AND PAY HE WILL.
BIG MONEY !!!
I beg to differ those who offered great good at a great price, these had to live off volume and they are gone. The good but overpiced ones can survive - Uber eats - an app eateries hate but are forced to have do to consumer dements - takes 33% communion on the sale - so some food orders cost the biz to lose money.
Some bizs have a very high profit margin and can afford the cut. I used Uber beats once with a $20 coupon and it ended up being more expensive than me getting delivered the normal way by phone - and of course picking it up myself (no delivery charge at all)
The delivery charge was not too bad, but to cover the 33% take of uber the menu prices on Uber where 33% higher. Which is not entirely clear to many people.
It is al about less service for more money because i have flashy inefficient technology. It remind me of my first intenret sale - I was part of the test group which made the fist on line purchase in Toronto - it took 4 weeks to get a bloody t-shirt and everyone but me wrote rave reviews about how amazing one line shopping was - and I pointed out that it took 30 minutes to type your order and 4 bloody weeks to get the t-shirt. Everyone else was amazed by the progress.
As a note that version of on line died in practice. Amazon retooled the mistake and decided to sell books on line - targeting those who could not buy English books any other way (ex pats mostly) and after like 6 years or so of tinkering actually made a viable model for it.
Time for you to accept reality. More and more closures will come if the current restrictions do not bring the numbers down. YOU KNOW, it's called "flattening the curve". If you would be an asset in preaching masks and social distancing instead of hoax and carry on with your life, then maybe the closures would be prevented. As I said to Canadaman/Decoy, all the Amigos can pat themselves on the back with every closure that occurs as they've played a role in the closings.
The issue is the logramtic problem. The doubling of cases makes thigs bad quickly. The R number of this thing is 4+ which is not good.
The Seduction Of The Exponential Curve
In mathematics, exponential trends go on forever. In real life, they inevitably end.
www.forbes.com
Apparntly the few cases we have now have the hospitals full and straining.
However if MIke Harris had not closed a bunch of separate location hospitals in downtown Toronto in 1995 this whole thing could have been avoided. (37 hospials were closed to save a buck)
Hospitals, like fire stations should be empty most of the time. They should have a large over capacity for a medical crisis - city fire, natural disaster, bio weapon attack, terrorist attacks pandemics and the like.
Instead we had hospital where patients stays on a gurney in the middle of the hall or on an elevator for three days waiting for a room
The report
http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/publications/premiers_council/docs/premiers_council_report.pdf
Wait times at Ontario hospitals climbed to record high this summer, data shows
- 2019
News stores recently
No lock down would have been necessary if we have the medical over capacity of the 1995 - Billions could have been saved nationally. The just in time mentality - do only what you need today has totally screwed us in dozens of ways (Toilet paper kinda (qv) supply chain failures, mask shortages { when we used to have a lifetime of stockpiles in ware houses} the list goes on and on}
We see a similar save a penny lose a hundred buck mentality with preparing for climate change damage. Its funny that when Canada was made up of half educated (formal) farmers that the farmer planned a nation for a hundred years and now we - with superior tech and education can not plan for more than 5 years in advance and in the case of opening school 6 months in advance seems impossible.
And get his 2nd phase is only one of the phases. This likely will have 6th phases or more if humans are idiots.
This was already true before the pandemic. It will just get worst. Inequalities is killing America. We fare a bit better here in Canada because of our free healthcare, almost free education and much better social justice measure. Not the chaos like in the US.
We need to put it into perspective.
Remember a small portion of the population have claimed (some still do) this was a virus from China released on purpose to control people. Remember these people were yelling 5G is the cause of this.
It really does put into perspective the level of ignorance these people have and how easily brainwashed and misinformed they are.
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