Some masks better than others

[lenny2]

And last but not least

"this is the process intelligent people follow.

When there is new information, or the understanding of a situation evolves, intelligent people modify their opinions and advice. AKA "change their minds".

Others who are threatened by their own fear and insecurity that they may be wrong, doggedly stick to their original position and find excuses to justify
their inability to learn from new information.

Unfortunately ignorant, loud and irrational people can not understand or interpret these facts properly because they are blinded by their own selfish wants/gains or guided by their political agenda."

Here's a perfect example of that & the "deny, deny, deny" crowd:

No. It isn't.

 

[lenny2]

The Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)

The mission of MIT is to advance knowledge and educate students in science, technology and other areas of scholarship that will best serve the nation and the world in the 21st century.

medical.mit.edu

 

[lenny2]

That's a question everyone should ask themselves. Also this:

If you can't even do a simple easy little thing like put on a mask to protect others & society, do you even deserve to have a life or live.

As it's said "Karma's a bitch".

 

[doggystyle99]

Of course I read the article. Its you who's apparently not reading my posts.
I specifically stated in OP that only N95 masks will make a difference, not the flimsy masks most people are currently wearing because.......wait for it.......the article you just quoted clearly says there's evidence exhaled breath contains the coronavirus, not just droplets from coughs or sneezes. That was the whole point of the video.

Read the quote from the article again:

Incorrect
Any mask makes a difference.
e.g. If one "Very Stable Genius" had taken their dickstained tighty whitey's and wrapped it around their face covering their nose and mouth, it would have been better than no masks at all. They'd be smelling piss for the duration of wearing the mask and possibly after with the stench cemented in their nose but they would have been less exposed to the Coronavirus.

 

[canada-man]

That's a question everyone should ask themselves. Also this:

If you can't even do a simple easy little thing like put on a mask to protect others & society, do you even deserve to have a life or live.

As it's said "Karma's a bitch".

i am not responsible for your health we are not a communist nor a collectivist country.

 

[lenny2]

i am not responsible for your health we are not a communist nor a collectivist country.

You are morally responsible to not murder others.

Wear a mask to protect those most vulnerable from dying as a result of - your - C-19 infection. IOW wear a mask so - you - don't murder others.

If you can't even do a simple easy little thing like put on a mask to protect others & society, do you even deserve to have a life or live.

As it's said "Karma's a bitch".

 

[canada-man]

You are morally responsible to not murder others.

Wear a mask to protect those most vulnerable from dying as a result of - your - C-19 infection. IOW wear a mask so - you - don't murder others.

did you weare a mask during past flu seasons? if not don't impose your guilt tripping paranoid delusions i am not going to wear a mask don't like it too bad

 

[lenny2]

did you weare a mask during past flu seasons? if not don't impose your guilt tripping paranoid delusions i am not going to wear a mask don't like it too bad

Irrelevant. Like probably the vast majority of people, in past years i didn't give the flu hardly any thought or consideration. Knowing what i know now i probably would have received flu vaccines annually in past years and worn a mask. Even when i didn't have any flu symptoms. Even though the science is still trying to figure out if there is a significant amount of asymptomatic transmission of the ever changing annual flu viruses.

It could be in part that health authorities haven't recommended mask use en masse by the general public to prevent the possible asymptomatic spread of constantly changing annual flu strains because studies have not yet determined how dangerous or common or likely that is:

"Although asymptomatic individuals may shed influenza virus, studies have not determined if such people effectively transmit influenza....Based on the available literature, we found that there is scant, if any, evidence that asymptomatic or presymptomatic individuals play an important role in influenza transmission. As such, recent articles concerning pandemic planning, some using transmission modeling, may have overestimated the effect of presymptomatic or asymptomatic influenza transmission. More definitive transmission studies are sorely needed."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2646474/

"Symptoms can begin about 2 days (but can range from 1 to 4 days) after the virus enters the body. That means that you may be able to pass on the flu to someone else before you know you are sick, as well as while you are sick. Some people can be infected with the flu virus but have no symptoms. During this time, those people may still spread the virus to others."

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/spread.htm
https://virologydownunder.com/influ...or-without-symptoms-youre-dropping-flu-virus/

"As for the possible role of asymptomatic carriers in spreading flu, Bresee commented that symptoms correlate with the amount of virus shed. "So my presumption is that asymptomatic infected people will shed less virus than people who are symptomatic, and therefore will contribute less to community spread," he said. "But I'm not sure how much data there are for that."

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/03/uk-flu-study-many-are-infected-few-are-sick

"The presence of influenza viral shedding in patients with influenza who have very few or no symptoms reflects their potential for transmitting the virus to close contacts. These findings suggest that further research is needed to investigate the contribution of persons with asymptomatic or clinically mild influenza virus infections to influenza virus transmission in household, institutional, and community settings."

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/64/6/736/2733100

"A commentator says an important unanswered question is how much the asymptomatic cases contribute to flu transmission."

https://www.jwatch.org/fw108600/2014/03/17/most-flu-asymptomatic

Also, BTW, mask wearing was recommended during the Swine Flu outbreak in 2009 & masks were commonly worn at the time of the flu pandemic of 1918 in America & elsewhere:

"Swine Flu (H1N1) and Face Masks
When and how to use face masks in home and community settings."

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/features/swine-flu-h1n1-and-face-masks#1
https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/features/swine-flu-h1n1-and-face-masks#2
https://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/masks.htm

Note also the present recommendations re the annual flu:

"Avoid crowds. The flu spreads easily wherever people gather...Your local health department and the CDC may suggest other precautions to reduce your risk of COVID-19 or the flu. For example, you may need to practice social distancing (physical distancing) and stay at least 6 feet (2 meters) from others outside your household. You may also need to wear a cloth face mask when around people outside your household."

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...al infection,that cause diarrhea and vomiting.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/symptoms/symptoms.htm

During the 1918 flu pandemic healthy people wore masks. They are also often worn in more recent years by healthy people in hospitals and other medical settings, etc.

Mask wearing seems like a small price to pay to save many millions of lives in the future as well as spare many millions more from illness, hospitalization, loss of work, ICU, long term negative health effects, etc. Many people such as myself would only need to wear a mask for about 30 minutes a day.

The vast majority of health experts & countries are mandating or recommending mask use & are quite aware of the studies on the matter.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Incorrect
Any mask makes a difference.
e.g. If one "Very Stable Genius" had taken their dickstained tighty whitey's and wrapped it around their face covering their nose and mouth, it would have been better than no masks at all. They'd be smelling piss for the duration of wearing the mask and possibly after with the stench cemented in their nose but they would have been less exposed to the Coronavirus.

Grade 8 humor

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

"this is the process intelligent people follow

LOL @ intelligent

 

[lenny2]

LOL @ intelligent

What's funny.

 

[squeezer]

i am not responsible for your health we are not a communist nor a collectivist country.

In that case, try walking around the city with a bomb strapped to your chest and see how far that gets you. After all you're not responsible for anyone else's well being.

OKAY, the above is extreme. I know. So let's bring it down into reality if you still know what that entails. Try walking into a store smoking or better, a police station. After all, who cares about second-hand smoke. Do it and prove to us YOU are not at all responsible for looking after folks around you.

 

[canada-man]

In that case, try walking around the city with a bomb strapped to your chest and see how far that gets you. After all you're not responsible for anyone else's well being.

OKAY, the above is extreme. I know. So let's bring it down into reality if you still know what that entails. Try walking into a store smoking or better, a police station. After all, who cares about second-hand smoke. Do it and prove to us YOU are not at all responsible for looking after folks around you.

smoking is not the same as not wearing a mask

 

[squeezer]

smoking is not the same as not wearing a mask

I disagree. Your breath can be lethal if infected! As a matter of fact, more dangerous than breathing in the occasional cigarette smoke as that takes years and years to kill anyone.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

What's funny.

You

 

[canada-man]

I disagree. Your breath can be lethal if infected! As a matter of fact, more dangerous than breathing in the occasional cigarette smoke as that takes years and years to kill anyone.

if you live in fear say home . leave the rest of us 99.8% of people to get on with our lives

I am not going to wear a mask and obstruct my breathing because you live in fear don't like it to bad

 

[squeezer]

if you live in fear say home . leave the rest of us 99.8% of people to get on with our lives

I am not going to wear a mask and obstruct my breathing because you live in fear don't like it to bad

I don't live in fear. I'm out every day but I do it respectfully of others around me. I don't believe you do not wear your mask and if not, it's only a matter of time before you are in an altercation with someone who's safety you are violating.

 

[shack]

we are not a communist nor a collectivist country.

Have you ever used resources that were paid for by OHIP? Don't bother answering. You like to pick and choose when collectivism/socialism is ok in your books..

 

[shack]

smoking is not the same as not wearing a mask

You are exhaling particulate matter that can be dangerous to others around you.

They are exactly the same.

 

[canada-man]

You are exhaling particulate matter that can be dangerous to others around you.

They are exactly the same.

constantly repeating coronavirus fear porn does not make it true and telling healthy people they are spreaders of disease or have a disease is manchussen behavior by proxy