Florida reopens: DeSantis lifts state’s coronavirus restrictions

[canada-man]

TALLAHASSEE — Florida will no longer require bars and restaurants to operate at less than full capacity, as Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday removing all remaining restrictions on those businesses because of the coronavirus pandemic.

The order, which takes effect immediately, also prohibits local governments from closing businesses or collecting fines related to pandemic-related mandates, such as mask requirements — leading to at least one Central Florida county being inundated with calls asking if people no longer have to wear one. But it does allow local authorities to limit restaurant and bar capacity to 50% if they can justify it.

“We are today moving into what we initially called phase 3,” DeSantis said during a news conference in St. Petersburg. “And what that’ll mean for the restaurants is there will not be limitations from the state of Florida. We’re also saying in the state of Florida everybody has a right to work. (Local governments) can do reasonable regulations, but they can’t just say no.”

Democratic state Sen. Linda Stewart called the move politically motivated and questioned whether the timing was right because Florida continues to have a relatively high death and positivity rates compared with the rest of the country.


There are four major provisions of the order:

-It removes all remaining state-level restrictions on businesses, including on bars and restaurants.

-It provides a general right to work and to operate a business. Local governments can limit and regulate businesses, but won’t be able to close businesses because of coronavirus concerns.

-Local governments won’t be able to prevent restaurants from operating at below 50% capacity. Under previous orders, local governments could go further than state-level restrictions, and counties in South Florida kept restaurants and bars closed after the state allowed them to reopen. But cities and counties won’t be able to impose any restrictions without an economic and health-based justification for it.

-Cities and counties can’t collect on any outstanding fines they issued as part of their pandemic response. The order, though, doesn’t compel local governments to refund anyone who has already paid a fine.

Florida reopens: DeSantis lifts state’s coronavirus restrictions

TALLAHASSEE — Florida will no longer require bars and restaurants to operate at less than full capacity, as Gov. Ron DeSantis issued an executive order Friday removing all remaining restricti…

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[decoy2673]

We desperately need a politician like this here. Someone who will actually stand up and do what's right for the people - not optics.

 

[lomotil]

We desperately need a politician like this here. Someone who will actually stand up and do what's right for the people - not optics.

Let Darwinism run it’s course down in Florida and see what happens!!! I predict that the state governor will be asking for federal aid for an overwhelmed hospital crisis “shituation “within six months. The snowbirds are stupid to be going down there this year.

 

[IRIS]

We desperately need a politician like this here. Someone who will actually stand up and do what's right for the people - not optics.

 

[canada-man]

Let Darwinism run it’s course down in Florida and see what happens!!! I predict that the state governor will be asking for federal aid for an overwhelmed hospital crisis “shituation “within six months. The snowbirds are stupid to be going down there this year.

COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):

Ages 0-19: 99.997%

Ages 20-49: 99.98%

Ages 50-69: 99.5%

Ages 70+: 94.6%

 

[kherg007]

Here's a chance yet again to test the idea. So let's look at the prevalence rates in 3-4 weeks and the death rates in 5-6 weeks. Also there are some longer lasting damage for some who do recover.

But no need to argue lets watch. Desantis scolded everyone the first time he did this and a month later florida was the nations hot spot and they needed to shut down. Maybe he knows something better now. We'll see.

 

[squeezer]

Ron Desantis

 

[lomotil]

COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):

Ages 0-19: 99.997%

Ages 20-49: 99.98%

Ages 50-69: 99.5%

Ages 70+: 94.6%

The disease is still mysterious and new to mankind, not even a year yet. Survival rates are one thing, but permanent damage or complications in the future are another thing irregardless of age. The disease will likely continue to work itself around the world over the next few years barring some miraculous vaccine(s) and the ability to deliver it to the masses. Most countries and societies respect the elderly or the immunocompromised and take steps towards protecting their health.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

Here's a chance yet again to test the idea. So let's look at the prevalence rates in 3-4 weeks and the death rates in 5-6 weeks. Also there are some longer lasting damage for some who do recover.

But no need to argue lets watch. Desantis scolded everyone the first time he did this and a month later florida was the nations hot spot and they needed to shut down. Maybe he knows something better now. We'll see.

Better to get through the painful part early on then go back to normal quicker. Anything less just prolongs the anguish.

People will die. Death rate may increase in 5 - 6 weeks. Yet it's the right approach.

Think bigger and longer term.

 

[squeezer]

. Death rate may increase in 5 - 6 weeks. Yet it's the right approach.
Think bigger and longer term.

Put your life where your mouth is and lick a Covid Clinic hand railing instead of spouting off about gambling with other people's lives.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

Put your life where your mouth is and lick a Covid Clinic hand railing instead of spouting off about gambling with other people's lives.

This doesn't make any sense.

I understand that people will die driving cars and that I could die in a car accident. This doesn't mean I'm going to speed unnecessarily and ignore road signs.

 

[jalimon]

It's pure politics to make Florida swing Trump's way.

What's a few 70 year old dying 5-10 years ahead of time if it serves the Republican agenda.

 

[sp free]

Let Darwinism run it’s course down in Florida and see what happens!!! I predict that the state governor will be asking for federal aid for an overwhelmed hospital crisis “shituation “within six months. The snowbirds are stupid to be going down there this year.

6 months?

 

[sp free]

The disease is still mysterious and new to mankind, not even a year yet. Survival rates are one thing, but permanent damage or complications in the future are another thing irregardless of age. The disease will likely continue to work itself around the world over the next few years barring some miraculous vaccine(s) and the ability to deliver it to the masses. Most countries and societies respect the elderly or the immunocompromised and take steps towards protecting their health.

China seems to be doing fine in less than a year.

 

[jalimon]

China seems to be doing fine in less than a year.

Believe me we do not know much what's going in China. Those who dig deeper down there tends to fall from 4th story window.

 

[squeezer]

This doesn't make any sense.

I understand that people will die driving cars and that I could die in a car accident. This doesn't mean I'm going to speed unnecessarily and ignore road signs.

No, but you will walk around not wearing a mask possibly getting infected and infecting others because you believe in the ridiculous herd "MENTAL ity" (immunity) theory.

 

[shack]

This doesn't make any sense.

I understand that people will die driving cars and that I could die in a car accident. This doesn't mean I'm going to speed unnecessarily and ignore road signs.

And you are also against making vehicles and roads safer and educating drivers? Those are measures to make driving safer, the same as masks, distancing etc.

 

[lkjh0987]

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People will die. Death rate may increase in 5 - 6 weeks. Yet it's the right approach.

Think bigger and longer term.

Absolutely! The sheep need to get a shave and get back to work. (Yes, the women sheep too. Those bushes are getting nasty.)

People die every day. Remember the saying, "Life is a sexually transmitted disease that is terminal."

Death rate has been flat since late June. Only way it is going up if we conflate the numbers with other causes of death. Can't use the the old folks' homes anymore because they have euthanized all the terminal ones during the spring lockdown.

Everyone is waking up. Governments can't keep up the charade much longer. I figure that the death threats to the politicians [and likely their family members] is reaching critical mass. That's a good motivator for them to open everything up.

 

[lkjh0987]

Put your life where your mouth is and lick a Covid Clinic hand railing instead of spouting off about gambling with other people's lives.

That's child's play! Riding the TTC and using the metal handrails is a super spreader. I double dare you! Go ride the subway. That's how Tory is gambling with Torontonian's livelihood. That's his strategy for continually increasing the numbers of Covid cases. And yet, the number of new deaths remain flat. Hmmm.

 

[lenny2]

COVID-19 SURVIVAL RATES (per CDC):

Ages 0-19: 99.997%

Ages 20-49: 99.98%

Ages 50-69: 99.5%

Ages 70+: 94.6%

So if you're 70+ there is a very real chance of dying from a C-19 infection. Greater than 5% or 5 in 100.

Also if you're 50-69 there is a very real chance of dying from a C-19 infection. Exactly 5 in 1000.

Anyone wanna play some "Russian Roulette". That's a fool's game.

Wake up.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...ian%20roulette
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...ssian-roulette
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...ssian-roulette

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Swing States Polls & Trump-Virus Numbers

While the Red Herd laughs off the 200,000 American dead due to the Trump-Virus, it’s a joke that swing state voters just aren’t getting. Given the still large numbers of “undecided” voters, the Orange Blimp still has time to turn it around, but odds are that pandering to his moron base is more...

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Shutdowns were the most effective precaution there was from a cautious health expert perspective. That's why the experts advocated lockdowns. They worked to save millions of lives from death, as well as millions of others from illness, hospitalization, ICU & long term negative health effects. Which would have impacted economies negatively. And led to hospitals being overwhelmed & having to choose between who lives & who dies because they wouldn't have been able to treat many emergency patients on arrival & have been forced to turn many away from timely needed emergency care. Leading to many more deaths.

So you're saying you advocated a Swedish approach "all along" from the beginning of the pandemic? Are you not aware that Sweden has suffered way more infections and deaths relative to their Nordic neighbours with no advantage economically? The Sweden approach has been a failure!

Are you not aware that even apparently healthy young people are dying & suffering long term negative consequences from C-19, in addition to suffering in ICU's from the illness. Which you ignored from my previous post.

"I was infected with coronavirus in March, six months on I’m still unwell

Charlie Russell, 27, is one of an estimated 600,000 people with post-Covid illness, a condition that may give an insight into ME"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...m-still-unwell

More on the long term negative effects of C-19 infection here:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/c-19...vivors.723087/

As for the shutdowns, what is obviously clear is they have had many benefits:

1) serious vehicular accidents & deaths are way way down
2) flu deaths & serious complications have decreased tremendously
3) C-19 ill health & deaths are far less due to the lockdowns
4) likewise probably other communicable diseases (e.g. tuberculosis, HIV) have been greatly reduced by the extreme safety measures in place
5) street crimes have probably been highly reduced.
6) families have been able to spend more time together enjoying each others company while free from the slavery of that 4 letter word "work" that the vast majority hate. Giving more time for quality of life activities like sex & various entertainments.
7) abortions (child murder) are probably down.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...1#post13211637

Many kids & young people's lives have already been saved due to the worldwide lockdowns.

Because motor vehicle accident deaths are the #1 leading worldwide cause of death in such.

"Motor vehicle crashes are the leading cause of death for U.S. teens."

https://www.google.com/search?q=lead...hrome&ie=UTF-8

"Each year, 1.35 million people are killed on roadways around the world.4

"...Road traffic injuries are estimated to be the eighth leading cause of death globally for all age groups and the leading cause of death for children and young people 5–29 years of age. More people now die in road traffic crashes than from HIV/AIDS.4"

https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/...nd%20cyclists.

As for "trillions in damage", there would have been huge economic damage with or without the shutdowns. Without shutdowns millions more people get ill, hospitalized, suffer long term ill health & death leading to employees being absent from work, businesses shutdown anyway, & in many cases for much longer, etc.