Two Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies shot in Compton ambush

[basketcase]

Sounds like some people are getting sick and tired of police killing innocent people.

What the alt-Reich ignores - police should be held to a higher standard than random members of society.

Looks like a payback killing. We don’t have the whole story here, let’s wait for the facts to come in before we pass judgment.

If they were targeted just because they were cops then it's pretty despicable - no excuses. Only way I'd be understand it would be if the cops were dirty and targeted for ripping off their partners.

 

[basketcase]

In other words, leftist country...

Wait, the US is a leftists country? When did that happen?

 

[basketcase]

More training is going to stop cops from shooting a man that resists arrest, is immune to tasers, opens his car door and reaches in to grab... ?
...

Yes. Their training is already supposed to have them accurately identify threats and leaning forward near your car doesn't constitute a threat. If the cop was properly trained, he would have stepped back to create space to react if indeed he pulled out a weapon instead of shooting him in the back.


And as Jenesis says, cops culture also needs to change to accept their job is high stress and learn it's okay to seek support.

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

Yes. Their training is already supposed to have them accurately identify threats and leaning forward near your car doesn't constitute a threat. If the cop was properly trained, he would have stepped back to create space to react if indeed he pulled out a weapon instead of shooting him in the back.

You're way out of your league and out to lunch as usual.

 

[masspref]

And as Jenesis says, cops culture also needs to change to accept their job is high stress and learn it's okay to seek support.

What a silly comment. They know how high the stress is and not only do they know it's okay but in some cases the support is mandatory. As for Jenesis, she just may have a pumpkin fetish

 

[The Oracle]

Yes. Their training is already supposed to have them accurately identify threats and leaning forward near your car doesn't constitute a threat. If the cop was properly trained, he would have stepped back to create space to react if indeed he pulled out a weapon instead of shooting him in the back.

Reaching into a car to grab a knife constitutes a threat to practically everyone on this planet except for the snowflakes on the left.

 

[The Oracle]

Only way I'd be understand it would be if the cops were dirty and targeted for ripping off their partners.

Jack Daniels is not you're friend,lol.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Isnt it strange that Charlemagne didnt start a thread on this, since he starts a thread on almost everything else??

 

[richaceg]

And we have a different opinion of what saving innocent lives is.

I’m fine with that difference. Clearly you are not. More adulting required I see.

So if Cops feel they need to apply necessary force to take down a suspect...they shouldn't? We're talking about a criminal walking down a cop car and fire a shot vs. a cop on duty in pursuit of an armed suspect here.

 

[Jenesis]

So if Cops feel they need to apply necessary force to take down a suspect...they shouldn't? We're talking about a criminal walking down a cop car and fire a shot vs. a cop on duty in pursuit of an armed suspect here.

You are twisting my words. I am not saying that all police shootings are unjustified. I am not saying that all police brutality is only against POC.

What I am saying though is that some police are corrupt, some are hot head assholes who abuse their power and some shootings are not justified.

Those facts can not be denied. Simply based on the human factor, those things are bound to happen.


I’m allowed to see both sides of this, and that is the problem. Both sides are actually right. Criminals need to be dealt with and cops have a right to protect themselves on the job. Citizen have the right to proper policing without brutality or abuse of power.

Why is that not acceptable? Why does it have to be a picking one side only? The longer people feel they need to pick one side and not look at the factual points of the other side, this war between police and the people will continue.

I’m not leftist or right wing. I am central. I see both sides. Which is why in one thread I am called racist and in another thread I am called a loonie leftie.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Both cops will have life altering injuries, but it looks like they're going to pull through

Hero LA County deputy who survived ambush identified as Claudia Apolinar

The heroic Los Angeles County deputy who survived an ambush and saved the life of her partner is reportedly a 31-year-old former librarian who just graduated the academy last year. Claudia Apo…

nypost.com

 

[Jenesis]

Both cops will have life altering injuries, but it looks like they're going to pull through

Hero LA County deputy who survived ambush identified as Claudia Apolinar

The heroic Los Angeles County deputy who survived an ambush and saved the life of her partner is reportedly a 31-year-old former librarian who just graduated the academy last year. Claudia Apo…

nypost.com

That is amazing news. So happy they survived and what a courageous woman she is for still being able to help her partner.

 

[The Oracle]

That is amazing news. So happy they survived and what a courageous woman she is for still being able to help her partner.

Yes it is amazing news. And officer Apolinar showed exemplary courage and bravery during a time that very few will experience in their lifetime.

Hopefully she receives the recognition that she is due.

Oh and BTW my guess is that the overwhelming majority on here would vehemently disagree with you being called a racist.

 

[redshank]

If they were targeted just because they were cops then it's pretty despicable - no excuses. Only way I'd be understand it would be if the cops were dirty and targeted for ripping off their partners.

"no excuses" Followed by a barely legible excuse.

Not a shock considering the source

 

[Darts]

The demonization of cops and people with blue eyes will not end well. More people will be needlessly hurt.

 

[lkjh0987]

Yes it is amazing news. And officer Apolinar showed exemplary courage and bravery during a time that very few will experience in their lifetime.

Hopefully she receives the recognition that she is due.

Oh and BTW my guess is that the overwhelming majority on here would vehemently disagree with you being called a racist.

Great thread Mr. Oracle. Just a little too much histrionics from the armchair quarterbacks. When I heard about the shooting I actually started tearing up - just a little. (I still have my balls intact, by the way.)

LASD (Los Angeles Sheriff's Department) has a history of corruption, in particular deputy gangs. (Interesting read. Makes Metro cops look like alter boys. Especially that "retired-on-the-job" half of the force sucking down $100,000+ per year.) Surprised all the know-it-alls here didn't mention the tax payer funded gangs of the LASD!

Compton has a notorious gang, aptly named the Executioners - as in Sunday's shooting. (Hmmm...) This is their leg brand. I am surprised that after 50 years of this, there aren't any Netflix movies about this. I am sure there are books.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Just heard on the news, one cop was shot in the jaw and the shoulder, and the 2nd cop was shot in the forehead and the shoulder as well. So 4 bullets hit their target in total. Both cops are in stable condition and will survive, but no word if the cop who was shot in the forehead will have life altering brain damage or not.

Only 5% survive getting shot in the head: https://www.baltimoresun.com/health/bal-te.brain05oct05-story.html

 

[Mr.Know-It-All]

Yes. Their training is already supposed to have them accurately identify threats and leaning forward near your car doesn't constitute a threat. If the cop was properly trained, he would have stepped back to create space to react if indeed he pulled out a weapon instead of shooting him in the back.

Newly released bodycam video of a police encounter from July.

It only takes a split second. These cops failed to insist that the man keep his hands up and/or on the steering wheel and restraining his arms as quickly as possible (much easier said than done). Even so, it's no guarantee the outcome would have been different.. It turns out he was a serious threat resulting in one cop is dead and the other wounded. Someone can be pepper sprayed and still a threat, shot several times and still be a threat, or some young teenager walking up to a cop car, never mind opening and reaching into a car door while resisting arrest.

 

[basketcase]

What a silly comment. They know how high the stress is and not only do they know it's okay but in some cases the support is mandatory. As for Jenesis, she just may have a pumpkin fetish

You think that cop culture embraces seeking support? The powers that be might mandate it but cops still see it as a punishment and weakness.

 

[basketcase]

You're way out of your league and out to lunch as usual.

Try listening to this guy. He's a security consultant (read former private contractor/mercenary) and former police trainer.

But yes, a client took me to a nice lunch today.