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Black man shot 11 times as he walked away from police

Frankfooter

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The law is the law. Order is order.

If someone is burning down your neighbourhood, I would assume you would want the government to intervene and protect you.
Rittenhouse broke the law, he wasn't old enough to carry a gun.
He wasn't allowed to take one across state borders.
He was not allowed to be out during curfew.

That's all before he shot people.

Does the law apply to your hero Trump as well?
He broke the Hatch act repeatedly during the RNC.
The law is the law?
 

Boober69

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Rittenhouse broke the law, he wasn't old enough to carry a gun.
He wasn't allowed to take one across state borders.
He was not allowed to be out during curfew.

That's all before he shot people.

Does the law apply to your hero Trump as well?
He broke the Hatch act repeatedly during the RNC.
The law is the law?

Wrong.
The Hatch Act doesn't apply to the president.

So your comment about Trump breaking the Hatch Act law is misguided.

btw pretty much every administration over the past decade or more has violated the Hatch Act. News flash: No one cares.

Are you just sore that he gave his speech at the White House where he belongs? Boo hoo

It was a magnificant speech. Truthful, direct and inspiring. Trump 2020!!!
 

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No one is saying he's a fine citizen and there is no evidence given by the police saying he reached for a knife. If he was reaching they would have included that in their statements. instead they said it was on the floorboard of the car.

But good to see you justifying people being shot because they aren't nice.
So you think a cop making 50k a year should take a chance and bet his life on it being safe to let a guy who just successfully resisted arrest includi being tased to get to his car where there actually was a knife?
Or should the cops have left the scene? And come back after 10 years of jiujitsu training?
like what exactly was the right course of action?

or maybe if you are tased and still resisting you are asking to be shot? A cop in a fluid situation like this needs a simple and practical answer and shooting the guy was a pretty nice answer. And surgically precise. Sure as hell beats a potential Wild West style shootout in which the civilians or cops could be hurt
 
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So you think a cop making 50k a year should take a chance and bet his life on it being safe to let a guy who just successfully resisted arrest includi being tased to get to his car where there actually was a knife?
Or should the cops have left the scene? And come back after 10 years of jiujitsu training?
like what exactly was the right course of action?

or maybe if you are tased and still resisting you are asking to be shot? A cop in a fluid situation like this needs a simple and practical answer and shooting the guy was a pretty nice answer. And surgically precise. Sure as hell beats a potential Wild West style shootout in which the civilians or cops could be hurt
The police were there for 2 minutes before Blake was shot.
During the call the complainant said he was already leaving.

It also reveals Blake's girlfriend - who told the dispatcher 'that her boyfriend was present and was not supposed to be on the premises' - told authorities he was already leaving the scene before officers arrived.
 

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So a domestic complainant recanted or went off side. Only happens in what, maybe 50% of domestic assault cases?
More importantly, what’s the significance of that anyway? Can I go rob a bank and then safely leave with my back turned to the cops?
And are you now saying that the real issue was that his arrest was not a lawful arrest? And does it mean that you agree that if it was lawful, the shooting was justified?
 

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So a domestic complainant recanted or went off side. Only happens in what, maybe 50% of domestic assault cases?
More importantly, what’s the significance of that anyway? Can I go rob a bank and then safely leave with my back turned to the cops?
And are you now saying that the real issue was that his arrest was not a lawful arrest? And does it mean that you agree that if it was lawful, the shooting was justified?
What it shows is that the situation was already de-escalating and the complainant said so and that in 2 minutes that the cops were there the couldn't de-escalate and instead shot him 7 times?
Blake lives on that street and one of his kids was reported in the yard.

If Toronto cops acted like that they'd be in serious shit.
 

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What it shows is that the situation was already de-escalating and the complainant said so and that in 2 minutes that the cops were there the couldn't de-escalate and instead shot him 7 times?
Blake lives on that street and one of his kids was reported in the yard.

If Toronto cops acted like that they'd be in serious shit.
In Toronto one can indeed resist an unlawful arrest. This guy had a warrant out for him for a sex assault. Let’s wait and see if the cops figured out that he had it or if not, what the reason for an arrest was.
 

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In Toronto one can indeed resist an unlawful arrest. This guy had a warrant out for him for a sex assault. Let’s wait and see if the cops figured out that he had it or if not, what the reason for an arrest was.
The police union has responded but not police investigators.
They also don't wear body cams in Kenosha, unfortunately.
 

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Wrong again, there are parts of the Hatch act that apply.



So you lied when you said this?

Hatch Law doesn't apply to thr President. What part of that don't you understand?

And you're going to compare giving a speech vs destroying property and setting neighbourhoods on fire.
Hahahahaa...desperate.
 

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And you're going to compare giving a speech vs destroying property and setting neighbourhoods on fire.
Hahahahaa...desperate.
So you're ok with breaking the law sometimes but not other times?
Its ok if right wingers break the law but not if people of colour do?
 

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So you're ok with breaking the law sometimes but not other times?
Its ok if right wingers break the law but not if people of colour do?

If I had to choose I would prefer someone breaking the law about the location of a speech vs breaking the law endangering lives and destrying property.
I know you are distracting again and your argument doesn't hold water.
No one cares about the Hatch Law. EVeryone cares about their lives and neighbourhoods being on fire.
 

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If I had to choose I would prefer someone breaking the law about the location of a speech vs breaking the law endangering lives and destrying property.
I know you are distracting again and your argument doesn't hold water.
No one cares about the Hatch Law. EVeryone cares about their lives and neighbourhoods being on fire.
Thank you for confirming that you accept breaking the laws and are willing to back criminals.
Clears up a lot for us.
 

Boober69

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Thank you for confirming that you accept breaking the laws and are willing to back criminals.
Clears up a lot for us.

What's the matter? I thought you approved of breaking laws too? Or was that your hypocrisy shining through again?
DIdn't you condone vandalism when your Liberal staffer admitted to ripping of gas pump stickers? At the time, you defended him saying that it was against the law, but ok because of your politicalm views.

Clears a lot up for us.
 

Frankfooter

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What's the matter? I thought you approved of breaking laws too?
This is all about your claims, boob.
The law is the law. Order is order.

If someone is burning down your neighbourhood, I would assume you would want the government to intervene and protect you.
But then you went and said lawbreaking is fine.
Which is it, are you for law and order or not?
 

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No one is saying he's a fine citizen and there is no evidence given by the police saying he reached for a knife. If he was reaching they would have included that in their statements. instead they said it was on the floorboard of the car.

But good to see you justifying people being shot because they aren't nice.
Not justifying it. Just waiting for all the facts to come out to make a judgement unlike some people. We don't know if he was reaching for a knife or not. The police said he was, so lets wait and see.
 

Frankfooter

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Not justifying it. Just waiting for all the facts to come out to make a judgement unlike some people. We don't know if he was reaching for a knife or not. The police said he was, so lets wait and see.
Sure, with two armed cops behind him he could have been reaching for his knife or he could have just been responding to his crying kids.
 
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