Trump's sister says president 'has no principles', lies in secretly recorded audio: report

squeezer

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Bernie Sanders.
You are a Right Winger although I wouldn't say a radical right-winger, how do you go so far to the left to support a Bernie Sanders? Do you also support AOC?

There is no doubt that a significant portion (I have no idea how many) of his base could not care less. I also believe that there are a lot of people who have been taken in by him.

The fascinating thing to me as an observer is how he commands support in the face of lying, cheating etc. and how he has convince his supporters to ignore objective reality and accept only his version of truth and facts. He has achieved pretty much nothing notwithstanding his continually touting deals of the century etc. He is probably the worst negotiator I have ever seen and yet his supporters are always talking about his deal making skills etc. He inherited a growing economy which he continually denigrated during the campaign and afterward and continued to grow it albeit more slowly. He promotes himself tirelessly with fictional accomplishments. He has undoubtedly the worst record for hiring people in history with virtually his entire cabinet having turned over with him subsequently calling them stupid losers etc and many having been indicted.

It is fascinating to me.
It is fascinating how the supporters all buy into the conspiracy theories and throw science and facts out the window. Is it lack of education, something gone wrong mentally, or just trolling?
 

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You are a Right Winger although I wouldn't say a radical right-winger, how do you go so far to the left to support a Bernie Sanders? Do you also support AOC?



It is fascinating how the supporters all buy into the conspiracy theories and throw science and facts out the window. Is it lack of education, something gone wrong mentally, or just trolling?
Does make you wonder what they serve at those tea parties...
 

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There is no doubt that a significant portion (I have no idea how many) of his base could not care less. I also believe that there are a lot of people who have been taken in by him.

The fascinating thing to me as an observer is how he commands support in the face of lying, cheating etc. and how he has convince his supporters to ignore objective reality and accept only his version of truth and facts. He has achieved pretty much nothing notwithstanding his continually touting deals of the century etc. He is probably the worst negotiator I have ever seen and yet his supporters are always talking about his deal making skills etc. He inherited a growing economy which he continually denigrated during the campaign and afterward and continued to grow it albeit more slowly. He promotes himself tirelessly with fictional accomplishments. He has undoubtedly the worst record for hiring people in history with virtually his entire cabinet having turned over with him subsequently calling them stupid losers etc and many having been indicted.

It is fascinating to me.
Trump's base accepts that he is corrupt as shit as long as he fights the one war they really seem to care about.
The race war.

In 2016 his base included those who were suckered into believing that a billionaire conman would fight for workers rights. His attacks on minorities and immigrants were there to restore the status of his almost entirely white base. Those of his base who are leaving in droves, leaving those like jcpro and boob who support the real purpose of Trump's nationalism.

Nobody on this board is talking about Trump's tax measures or that he's done anything good for the economy. Nobody talks about any positive things he can, the best they can do is demonize protesters, defend confederation statues and cancel culture. Trump campaigns only on fear.
 

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You are a Right Winger although I wouldn't say a radical right-winger, how do you go so far to the left to support a Bernie Sanders? Do you also support AOC?



It is fascinating how the supporters all buy into the conspiracy theories and throw science and facts out the window. Is it lack of education, something gone wrong mentally, or just trolling?
AOC, Jameel Brown, Cory Bush, the Squad, and anyone else who through word and deed will support ending the wars and Medicare for all.

And Squeezer.......Biden is right wing. He is a Dino. His record proves that.
 

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Trump's base accepts that he is corrupt as shit as long as he fights the one war they really seem to care about.
The race war.
Due to the power of numbers this is a war they will not win. Of course the white suppremacist/Qnon supporters and the like can do a lot of bad but they will bring the country down doing so. There has never been winners in war of races. Only looser.
 
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Due to the power of numbers this is a war they will not win. Of course the white suppremacist/Qnon supporters and the like can do a lot of bad but they will bring the country down doing so. There has never been winners in war of races. Only looser.
Yes, which is why Trump is trying to destroy the USPS and stop votes.
 

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AOC, Jameel Brown, Cory Bush, the Squad, and anyone else who through word and deed will support ending the wars and Medicare for all.

And Squeezer.......Biden is right wing. He is a Dino. His record proves that.
I wouldn't say Biden is Right Wing, I would however say both Biden and Kamala are closer to the center democrats. The Radical Right Wing far left spin being thrown at them is ridiculous.
 

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There is no doubt that a significant portion (I have no idea how many) of his base could not care less. I also believe that there are a lot of people who have been taken in by him.

The fascinating thing to me as an observer is how he commands support in the face of lying, cheating etc. and how he has convince his supporters to ignore objective reality and accept only his version of truth and facts. He has achieved pretty much nothing notwithstanding his continually touting deals of the century etc. He is probably the worst negotiator I have ever seen and yet his supporters are always talking about his deal making skills etc. He inherited a growing economy which he continually denigrated during the campaign and afterward and continued to grow it albeit more slowly. He promotes himself tirelessly with fictional accomplishments. He has undoubtedly the worst record for hiring people in history with virtually his entire cabinet having turned over with him subsequently calling them stupid losers etc and many having been indicted.

It is fascinating to me.
It shouldn't fascinate you. You are part of the group that is responsible for Trump's ascension to the Oval Office. I would rather see a pragmatic, classic conservative like Romney or Cruz in the White House, but the lefties made it impossible for the "gentleman politician" to win. It now takes a gutter brawler, a cheap seats eye poker to overcome the opposition and the media's collusion that no longer pretends to be impartial. And you cannot execute your vision, if you can't win. That's the big "secret" of Trump's success known to all his supporters and why they vote for him. That's one of the two reasons for Trump.
 
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It shouldn't fascinate you. You are part of the group that is responsible for Trump's ascension to the Oval Office. I would rather see a pragmatic, classic conservative like Romney or Cruz in the White House, but the lefties made it impossible for the "gentleman politician" to win. It now takes a gutter brawler, a cheap seats eye poker to overcome the opposition and the media's collusion that no longer pretends to be impartial. And you cannot execute your vision, if you can't win. That's the big "secret" of Trump's success known to all his supporters and why they vote for him. That's one of the two reasons for Trump.
So basically you're saying the hicks are rebelling against the elite?
 

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Due to the power of numbers this is a war they will not win. Of course the white suppremacist/Qnon supporters and the like can do a lot of bad but they will bring the country down doing so. There has never been winners in war of races. Only looser.
The notion of being a racist, a race war, etc, etc was predictably created by the left as usual. That usual bullying tactic of "if you don't believe in what I believe in, you're a racist". It's old. It's futile.

Trump's base has become wise to these tactics over the years. The more this false campaign is waged by the left in it's many forms, the stonger his base gets.

Ironically, it's because of the left's ongoing tactics and hypocrisy that brought someone like Trump into power. Nothing strengthens a base more than when they are ridiculed for having their own opinion and beliefs and are attacked as a result.

The left fails to understand that.

They don't understand why despite years of waging this battle, they have not gained ground. Instead, the left continues to shout in desperation.


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So basically you're saying the hicks are rebelling against the elite?
If you want to characterize a good portion of the middle class as hicks, then, sure, why not? Just remember, every insult directed at voters, every fire set by the Antifa, every "reparation looting" by the BLM is one more nail in Biden's coffin. That's the game.
 

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It is fascinating how the supporters all buy into the conspiracy theories and throw science and facts out the window. Is it lack of education, something gone wrong mentally, or just trolling?
It's mental and ignorance. Trolling requires being clever to some degree. They're just plain stupid.
 
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AOC is a rising star and mark my word will be President one day. When this happens remember to say, Squeezer called it.
I'm willing to guess that you marked your words about Trump never becoming president as well. How did that work out? Lol!
 

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Idolize? I wouldn't go that far, but I like his style- hit'em right between the eyes a go on your way. Btw, the politics of insults(the death of civility in the post WWII America) began in ernest during the Bush43 presidency. Ony Dubya would not react- he was the old school Republican and, besides, most of it happened during his second term. But, the floodgates were opened. So, here we are. Enjoy!
 
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