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Trump’s bid to block release of his tax returns rejected by federal judge

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A federal judge on Thursday said New York state prosecutors could have access to President Donald Trump's accounting records for a criminal investigation, siding harshly against the President.
The ruling by US District Judge Victor Marrero follows a landmark Supreme Court decision this summer that appeared to set up potentially lengthy delays on subpoenas for Trump's records. Yet the ruling on Thursday snaps attention back to the ongoing criminal probe of Trump's business dealings, and revives the possibility that Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance could reach the records before the presidential election.
"Justice requires an end to this controversy," Marrero wrote.
Trump has already appealed. He's asking the Second Circuit Court of Appeals for emergency help as he tries to stop the subpoena from being enforced next week.


Vance's office has been examining whether Trump or the Trump Organization violated state laws in connection with hush money payments made to women alleging affairs with Trump. The investigation has also looked into whether business records filed with the state were falsified and if any tax laws were violated, CNN has reported.
Trump had sued Vance to stop the grand jury subpoena of his longtime accounting firm Mazars USA for years of his records. But the judge said the case was no longer valid and should be tossed from court.
Trump's appeal came an hour after the trial judge's decision. Previously, Vance had agreed to wait seven days on the subpoena after a ruling. The appeals court could hear Trump's challenge and will separately have to decide if the subpoena should be put on hold.
Trump claims "consideration for 'the Presidency itself' requires" more delay, protecting his records from prosecutors while appeals are ongoing. Speaking at the White House late Thursday morning, Trump referred to the inquiry as a "continuation of the witch hunt," a line he's repeatedly used in an attempt to discredit the investigation into whether his campaign colluded with Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election.
But Marrero rejected Trump's attempt to use the court system for more delays. He built into his ruling a prohibition for Trump to revise his lawsuit as a way to keep it alive even if he's lost additional rounds in court.
Trump's legal strategy to "enable the clock to run," Marrero wrote, "amounts to absolute immunity through a back door, an entry point through which not only a President but also potentially other persons and entities, public and private, could effectively gain cover from judicial process."
Vance's office has said it seeks the accounting records for an investigation into the Trump Organization that spans years and includes looking into the hush money payments that former Trump attorney Michael Cohen secured for women during the 2016 campaign. The women alleged they had affairs with Trump, which Trump denies. Cohen had also publicly accused Trump of inflating his assets to banks and insurers, and the district attorney has interviewed Cohen.
The subpoena asked for records from Mazars related to Trump, the Trump Organization, his foundation and several related subsidiaries. The requested documents, court records said, pertain not just to business in New York, but also in other states like Florida and California and countries including Turkey, Dubai, Canada and Indonesia.
Trump had claimed the state grand jury's subpoena was too broad and that he should be protected from criminal investigation as President with sweeping immunity. Marrero called that argument "as unprecedented and far-reaching as it is perilous to the rule of law and other bedrock constitutional principles on which this country was founded and by which it continues to be governed."
The judge also rejected accusations that Vance's subpoena served to help Democrats who have wanted to expose Trump's tax returns for political reasons.
"While the Mazars Subpoena may well have been issued for that particular purpose, the lack of specific facts tying the Mazars Subpoena to those politicians prevents the Court from reasonably inferring that the Mazars Subpoena reflects an effort to advance the Democrats' goals rather than legitimate ones," his opinion said.
House Democrats separately subpoenaed the same set of Trump accounting records as Vance from Mazars. Trump's challenge to the congressional probe is still unresolved in Washington, DC's federal trial court following the Supreme Court's ruling.

 

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A federal judge just blasted Donald Trump's pet legal strategy:


Donald Trump doesn't view the legal system the way you and I do. For us, it's a last resort -- to be turned to only if all other ways of resolving a problem or disagreement have failed. For Trump, it's a first instinct -- a way to muddy the waters or slow down a negative storyline.
As Politico's Michael Kruse wrote back in 2019 of Trump's love of litigation:
"For nearly half a century, Trump ... has used lawsuits as cudgels and prods and publicity stunts. He and his wingmen have used them, or threats of them, to harass, to deflect and delay, to punish opponents and protect his brand, his money, his image, himself. Even in the face of losses, he has used them to find a way to wins."
How often does Trump sue -- or counter-sue? According to an exhaustive study by USA Today, Trump and his business have been involved in more than 4,000(!) lawsuits over the past three decades. Four thousand!!!

All of which brings me to a ruling on Thursday morning by US District Judge Victor Marrero, in which he flatly called Trump's longtime legal strategy out.
In dismissing Trump's attempt to block the turning over of his tax records to Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance as part of an ongoing grand jury probe into the hush money that was paid to two women alleging affairs with Trump, Marrero scolded the President's "enable the clock to run" approach," adding:
"At its core, it amounts to absolute immunity through a back door, an entry point through which not only a President but also potentially other persons and entities, public and private, could effectively gain cover from judicial process."
Which, whoa.

THE POINT -- NOW ON YOUTUBE!

As I've written before, Trump's strategy on his tax returns isn't necessarily to win the case on the release of his returns. It's simply to use the legal system (and his many appeals) to slow-walk the process until, at least, after the November election. Trump made a decision in the early days of his presidential campaign that whatever flack he would take for being the first major party nominee since Watergate not to release his returns would be less damaging to his prospects of winning than releasing those returns would be.
He's used all sorts of excuses to defend his lack of transparency -- from being under audit to the returns not really being a good picture of someone's finances to the public not really caring about the issue. But eventually, those excuses failed to stop the demand for the returns from Vance -- and so Trump turned to his old reliable: Suing (and counter-suing) to slow it all down.
Marrero did more than just blast Trump's pet legal strategy on Thursday. He ruled against Trump's appeal "with prejudice" -- which keeps from Trump to making revisions in the lawsuit in order to create another set of legal appeals and, thereby, slow the process down even further.
Trump, because he is Trump, immediately appealed the ruling.
Even if Trump is forced to turn over his tax returns to Vance prior to the election -- and that remains a big "if" -- it is unlikely the public would see them. Leaking grand jury materials in New York is a crime, and it would likely be severely punished in such a high-profile case as this one.
And so, Trump may win in the end. On keeping his tax returns private until after the 2020 election, that is.


Well as long as he has to disclose his fraudulent tax returns and then when he is booted out of office, this familiar chant could become a reality:

LOCK HIM UP!!
 

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Fox's Kennedy calls on Trump to release tax returns: 'Stop dragging this out'

ox News co-host Lisa Kennedy Montgomery called on President Trumpto release his tax returns on Thursday, saying she wants to "see what is in any president's tax returns."

The Fox News personality weighed in after a New York federal judge dismissed an effort by Trump’s legal team to stymie a New York grand jury subpoena for his tax returns.
“It's very strange that the president keeps fighting this. I want to see what is in any president’s tax returns. I know that may be an unpopular statement for people who are very supportive of the president, and maybe he has nothing to hide. So just stop dragging this out,” Kennedy said on Fox's "Outnumbered" on Thursday.
“It is a huge distraction, and every time the president has one of these distractions it takes away from anything that he could consider a victory.”
Kennedy also called Trump "god-awful" at picking team members following the arrest of former White House chief strategist Stephen Bannon on Thursday.

Bannon and three others have been charged with defrauding donors who contributed millions to an online fundraising campaign for a private border wall.

The four defendants are scheduled to appear in court Thursday afternoon, according to the U.S. attorney's office for the Southern District of New York.

Trump has sought to distance himself from Bannon since the former adviser's arrest, with the president telling reporters Thursday that he thought the private fundraising effort "was being done for showboating reasons," adding that he felt it "was inappropriate to be doing" such fundraising.


SO ANY REASON WHY THE BUNKER BITCH STILL WANTS TO HIDE HIS TAX RETURNS? After all he promised to release it after he got elected. What a liar and a crook!!
 
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We can finally follow the money. Where it comes from, where it goes - very educational...
 

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Looks like Trump's last appeal chance is doomed to fail but more importantly will be finished in a week or so.
Then Trump's taxes must go to the DA.

 

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Looks like Trump's last appeal chance is doomed to fail but more importantly will be finished in a week or so.
Then Trump's taxes must go to the DA.

but he is an honest businessman, nothing to worry about there
 

bver_hunter

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They should get hold of his tax returns, especially when his golf resorts in Dubai that are under investigation in these tax returns, will confirm if he is scamming his employees as well as contractors there for not paying them on time, but yet getting huge tax breaks on their backs:

 

Frankfooter

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They should get hold of his tax returns, especially when his golf resorts in Dubai that are under investigation in these tax returns, will confirm if he is scamming his employees as well as contractors there for not paying them on time, but yet getting huge tax breaks on their backs:

And Scotland, don't forget that one.
 

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You guys must all be in dire need of some new brooms. Not surprising. Brooms can only last for so many hunts.
I'll keep my eyes open for any sales for you.

However you may want to consider some of those carbon fibre models. Apparently they last longer and are easier on your assess.
 

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You guys must all be in dire need of some new brooms. Not surprising. Brooms can only last for so many hunts.
I'll keep my eyes open for any sales for you.

However you may want to consider some of those carbon fibre models. Apparently they last longer and are easier on your assess.
So...no real comment about the subject. Just another Trump-like deflection act.
 

Frankfooter

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You guys must all be in dire need of some new brooms. Not surprising. Brooms can only last for so many hunts.
I'll keep my eyes open for any sales for you.

However you may want to consider some of those carbon fibre models. Apparently they last longer and are easier on your assess.
Hey boob, that's off topic.
Keep your forest sweeping comments off of this thread.

Or are you now totally fine with 'distracting'?

Meanwhile, Trump's only avenue left appears to be the SC, though they already ruled that he's not immune from charges by states.
Appeals Court Refuses to Block Order Enforcing Subpoena for Trump’s Tax Returns, Putting Spotlight Back on SCOTUS
 

Boober69

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So...no real comment about the subject. Just another Trump-like deflection act.

My comment says it all. Just because you lost touch with reality after being engulfed in your TDS don't blame me.


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