Twitter is a sewer and it's best to ignore it. We are here to fuck ladies in exchange for cash and not to establish relationships- real, imagined or electronic. Why would anyone follow an escort on the social media? And who gives a shit what she says? That's just creepy and quite pointless as she is more than available for a real life "interaction". I don't get this pointless drama.
Overwhelming % of SP customers on Twitter also review board members, poll shows
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Hi Nikki, I noticed your twitter thread has been pulled down. I'm just curious if the clique collaborated and mounted pressure to not be pro review boards?
If Nikki took down the poll, I think her reasons should be allowed to remain private.
Certain SP's contempt for this board TERB and it's members as the "Slobbyists" does sway some SP's postings on Twitter and even on here TERB, but eventually these SP's will understand that TERB is very useful tool, and those certain SP's only interest is their owns.
Hey there guys,
I’m not seeing all of this until now. I’ve no issues with men who use forums such as terb or write reviews. I believe I’ve made it clear on previous posts above that I have no contempt nor do I refer to men as “slobbyists.” I remain in what I’ve already said on previous posts on the topic of terb , Twitter , etc.
I take down posts all the time , usually just marketing purpose to direct the attention to a new post that I would like to be the focus or secondary focus to a pinned tweet. There’s really no deeper reasoning behind it & no pressure added.
I actually snapped a photo of the poll once it was complete to post here for you guys, but hadn’t got around to it until now because you know laundry & that sort of thing
So here it is , here is the final results. You’ll find most men on twitter who follow me do prefer to use TERB.
No individual , nor clique had messaged me or expressed any issue to the poll or issues to my opinions on TERB or its members. I don’t promote or condone negativity from SPs or TERB members. If the forum hating , client bashing cliques do try to approach me on the subject matter & take issues with my polls or mentions of terb or my personal views that I have expressed in this thread on the subject matter, it will be a simple agree to disagree in that case.
I still remain for both client & sps that one or two bad apples doesn’t mean the bunch is spoiled & that mutual respect is the name of the game.
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Looks like the poll didn't change that much from beginning to end. And it had a decent # of votes.
Thanks for doing the poll, Nikki and putting up w our bullshit and comments!!
Thanks for doing the poll, Nikki and putting up w our bullshit and comments!!
That's an interesting point. You could argue that a girl who doesn't advertise on TERB might have a lower % of TERB members follow her. OTOH, a male Twitter account tends to be "fed" girls to follow by Twitter itself and also by seeing which girls respond to other girls' posts. I am aware of girls who dislike and shun TERB, although I tend not to follow them. (But other TERB guys might follow them just for the flirty photos). So I guess I might not be aware of polls that they might hypothetically set up and not respond to them.
I wasn't aware that ********** was so awful I've never visited there.
I wouldn't waste my time unless you like arguing with a bunch of unregistered posters who probably couldn't get laid in a crack house with a kg of hard!
Suspected the high percentage of lurkers vs. posters. I used to get Playboy for the party jokes, BTW...
I think people have to realize that like all things ”internet”, there is always a big ratio difference between those who post and those who lurk. And if you want to market properly, you market to the silent, not the vocal.
The vocal never make up the majority. Never.
For example, the majority of women who post about boards on Twitter, don’t actually represent the views of the majority of escorts on the topic. Just like the majority of men here who complain about rates, screening etc, we see first hand that they don’t make up the majority as men are paying higher rates and doing screening.
But I get the war. Women are afraid that what is posted on boards regarding things they feel can “hurt” their business and they feel the need to defend this. They can’t on TERB without being nastily torn apart and not all have the “fuck it” attitude I have.
Men are afraid that women will push a standard they don’t like in things like rates and screening, so they feel they need to defend this. They can’t on Twitter as they will get theselves banned from escorts’ accounts so they come here instead.
Now you have insta-war.
If both sides would realize that neither side is the majority and that the majority is actually the silent who enjoy this hobby on the down-lo, I don’t think there would be such a war.
I will also say, there are a few escorts who will hate boards simply because it is a platform that can and is used to call out their negative service. If they are a rushing, scamming, flakey, poor service providing escort, of course they are not going to like review boards. But even still, TERB represents less then half, I would even say less then a quarter of the actual hobby scene. Which is why these types are still able to operate on this bad business model.
The vocal never make up the majority. Never.
For example, the majority of women who post about boards on Twitter, don’t actually represent the views of the majority of escorts on the topic. Just like the majority of men here who complain about rates, screening etc, we see first hand that they don’t make up the majority as men are paying higher rates and doing screening.
But I get the war. Women are afraid that what is posted on boards regarding things they feel can “hurt” their business and they feel the need to defend this. They can’t on TERB without being nastily torn apart and not all have the “fuck it” attitude I have.
Men are afraid that women will push a standard they don’t like in things like rates and screening, so they feel they need to defend this. They can’t on Twitter as they will get theselves banned from escorts’ accounts so they come here instead.
Now you have insta-war.
If both sides would realize that neither side is the majority and that the majority is actually the silent who enjoy this hobby on the down-lo, I don’t think there would be such a war.
I will also say, there are a few escorts who will hate boards simply because it is a platform that can and is used to call out their negative service. If they are a rushing, scamming, flakey, poor service providing escort, of course they are not going to like review boards. But even still, TERB represents less then half, I would even say less then a quarter of the actual hobby scene. Which is why these types are still able to operate on this bad business model.
The exact number of hobbyists is always going to be a mystery. But I would assume that repeat customers of escorts or spa girls would sooner or later find TERB and stay for the reviews.
I found the boards back in the early days of the Net and I had no special expertise in finding resources online back then. I simply looked at escort ads and websites and there were references to TERB that I went to check out.
So I would assume that the guys who DON'T know about TERB are the dudes who see escorts 2x a year when the wife and kids to visit the in laws for a week and are too scared the rest of the time. But even then, seeing escorts is addictive for a first time customer. When I first booked an escort, it was "Well, I'll just do this once to see what it's like..... "
The old TERB published the # of members and it was close to 200,000. Now that is since 2001 and most of those accounts are dormant. But it still represents an average of 900 new members a month. And assuming those members stay active for 2 years, 21,600 active members, incl lurkers at any given time.
I found the boards back in the early days of the Net and I had no special expertise in finding resources online back then. I simply looked at escort ads and websites and there were references to TERB that I went to check out.
So I would assume that the guys who DON'T know about TERB are the dudes who see escorts 2x a year when the wife and kids to visit the in laws for a week and are too scared the rest of the time. But even then, seeing escorts is addictive for a first time customer. When I first booked an escort, it was "Well, I'll just do this once to see what it's like..... "
The old TERB published the # of members and it was close to 200,000. Now that is since 2001 and most of those accounts are dormant. But it still represents an average of 900 new members a month. And assuming those members stay active for 2 years, 21,600 active members, incl lurkers at any given time.
Those numbers just show me how little amount of actual hobbyist are on TERB. There are millions of people in Ontario, in Toronto. And 200,000 accounts when many are dormant, how many are escorts and agencies, etc show me how little TERB represents the overall lobbying community.
It has become a war and a war that is never fully battled out, as you say.
There is a faction of escorts - "the woke SP movement", I call it - that now opposes both agencies and boards bitterly and demands a high bar in both rates and screening. Guys react to the vitriol that's continually thrown about "bad clients" and "slobbyists", but can't do anything to debate it without getting banned from many women's Twitter pages, if not out and out harassed off Twitter
OTOH, women are often uncomfortable with the explicit nature of TERB reviews and some reviewers who are dishonest, coarse or misogynist. But when those girls visit TERB, their visits are more of an attack than an attempt to discuss and suggest solutions. And as you say, the two factions now interact less and less and currently not at all in any practical sense.
Except most people don't work in the sex industry nor do they patronize escorts. So if 1% of adult males see escorts, that's 0.25% of 14 million people or 35,000 guys. So that would suggest TERB represents 60% of hobbyists, assuming the 1% figure is accurate.
(1% x 1/2 for male: female and then 1/2 again to assume that 1/2 of males are non-adult, ill, too old, gay, etc. = 0.25%.)
If 2% of adult males see escorts, then TERB represents 30% of that total, etc.
What people don't get is there are groups or or subsets of hobbyist.
There are LL only hobbyist, MPA only, agency only, indy only, mature only, young only, etc etc. The list goes on and on. Most of the guys fighting abut rates and screening, only see agencies girls anyway, so why bitch about shit that doesn't even involve you. Same with indies bitching about agencies. What is the point? It is a totally different market.
If both sides would just stay in their own lanes and focus on their "subset", it would really go along way in curbing the way. In my opinion anyway.
We will have to agree to disagree on that. I don't even think TERB reps 25% of the hobby community in Ontario.
i think you misunderstand the politics, as they have currently developed in the last few months.
The more extreme indies believe that the high rates and extensive screening, deposits, cancellation fees, etc. are basic political rights for "respecting sex workers". However, most guys are going to value the convenience and budget-friendliness of going to MP's and agencies. I can see 2 agency girls with the same $ as seeing one of the hi-end indies. And I can see agency girls on a couple hours' notice with just a phone call and a fake name.
So the more "political" indies now see agencies and spas as an obstacle on the road to their objective. So no "staying in their own lane". And similar thinking re review boards and review board clients.
I'm sure that you're right that these women are but a small % of the escort population, but they tend to be a vocal and visible one.
Again, we will have to agree to disagree. I don't think I am misunderstanding anything. And I think that yes, people should stay in their own lane. I think we both agree that the vocal minority of escorts pushing what others call "standard setting" guidelines, so if they should curb their complaining and focus on their own demographic market, so should agencies only guys.
This is just my opinion.
Have a great day.
This isn't just confined to this hobby Hun. Music (especially metal) fans do this to the extreme! Genre Nazis routinely cross over into each other's sub genre to argue about what is wrong with a particular type or style of metal and what is and what isn't worth listening to. This behaviour doesn't exist in a bubble. You find it everywhere and it isn't going away anytime soon. Tattoo culture is also another area that generates this behaviour. I personally don't involve myself in any of it. Who I choose to book and at what price and from where is my business and could give a damn what others think personally.
