Buffalo Police Shove An Elderly Man To Ground Unconscious And Bleeding

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So the guy comes up to a column of police in full riot gear and looks to start chewing them out and gets ever so gently pushed.

Dude falls straight back and is knocked cold.

How about listening to their commands and getting out of the way. Stupid is as stupid does.
Wow, I'm speechless.
 

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And the proof of the validity of his protest was the collective inhuman police indifference to this elderly citizen bleeding out his ear. ALL of the Blue uniformed men just kept on walking to shove the next citizen... or just milled around. NOT ONE OF THE POLICE OFFICERS HAD ANY INSTINCT TO ATTEND TO THEIR FELLOW HUMAN! Only the camo-soldier had the humanity or training to tend to a wounded man.
The officer who the man initially approached tried to check on him but was pulled by what appears to be his superior officer. Shortly thereafter he is being attended too. But you are correct the optics are wrong here all around.

After reviewing the video. I see that given the mans age and the fact that he was in the process of backing up coupled with the fact that he posed no imminent threat, there wasn't any need to shove him. He could have been escorted to the side.








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Cops demonstrating they aren't racist by seriously injuring white people too.

Sickening to watch. They could've turned the guy around and escorted him on his way.
 

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After reviewing the video. I see that given the mans age and the fact that he was in the process of backing up coupled with the fact that he posed no imminent threat, there wasn't any need to shove him. He could have been escorted to the side.
Right... more like "after being called out and roasted as a disgusting imbecile, with absolutely no chance of defense or redemption, I have decided to pretend that a simple video needed 'reviewing' and am going to pathetically attempt to walk it back because it is clear how much of an asshole I am".
 

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And this happens on the very same day as a very brutal military crackdown 30 years ago. Sadly, history is repeating itself.

 

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Most Cops are honorable, there are a few idiots.

Entire Buffalo Police Unit Resigns Following Suspension Of 2 Officers Who Shoved Elderly Protester to Ground

An entire unit of the Buffalo Police Department have resigned from their posts after two of their fellow police officers were suspended without pay.

All 57 officers were members of the Buffalo Police Department Emergency Response Team. The two members on suspension were captured on video Thursday in an altercation with a 75-year-old man, later identified as Martin Gugino, who was injured during a protest in front of Buffalo City Hall over the death of George Floyd, an unarmed black man who died in police custody on May 25 in Minneapolis.

The video of the two officers and Gugino went viral after it was shared to social media. In the footage, Gugino appears to be pushed by the officers and hits his head on the ground as a result. He sustained head injuries due to the encounter, and remained in a local hospital in stable but serious condition on Friday afternoon, Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown said.

However, Buffalo Police Benevolent Association President John Evans, said in a statement that the union supported the officers and that Gugino slipped and fell while interacting with the police and that they were just doing their job in clearing the area as the city approached a mandatory curfew.

"Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square. It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards," Evans said.

Speaking to reporters on Friday, Erie County Executive Marc Poloncarz said he was "exceptionally disappointed" if the members resigned from the unit "because it indicates to me that they did not see anything wrong with the actions last night."

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who spoke about the incident during his daily COVID-19 press briefing Friday, expressed his shock and said he was sickened by the video.
"You see that video and it disturbs your basic sense of decency and humanity," Cuomo said, while also calling for legislation on sweeping police reform in New York, and a criminal investigation into the actions of the two suspended officers.

Brown said on his Twitter account that he and Buffalo Police Commissioner Byron Lockwood had seen the news footage of the incident, and felt angered and sickened by the incident.

Lockwood launched the investigation which led to the two officers being suspended without pay. No charges have been filed, though the investigation is ongoing.

According to The Buffalo News, the Emergency Response Team members have not quit the police department but have stepped down from the tactical unit which assists with crowd control measures.

In response to the mass resignations from the team, Brown said in a statement that contingency plans are in place to ensure there is no interruption of police and emergency services within the Buffalo community with more protests expected this weekend.

Newsweek contacted Lockwood and Evans for additional comments and did not receive a response in time for publication.

https://www.newsweek.com/entire-buf...s-who-shoved-elderly-protester-ground-1509091
 

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The officer who the man initially approached tried to check on him but was pulled by what appears to be his superior officer. Shortly thereafter he is being attended too. But you are correct the optics are wrong here all around.

After reviewing the video. I see that given the mans age and the fact that he was in the process of backing up coupled with the fact that he posed no imminent threat, there wasn't any need to shove him. He could have been escorted to the side.

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You want to know something else?

Did you see the helmet in his left hand?

Did you see that as he approached the policeman he was holding it out to the policeman?

He was returning a police helmet he had found.

Despite your initial grossly biased, inhumane instinct, it seems he was not "chewing out" a "column" of police when they "ever so gently pushed" him back.

Have a look below at another video that shows a longer period of time from another angle.


https://twitter.com/jeanniemcbride_/status/1268913408042295298?s=20
 

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Entire Buffalo Police Unit Resigns Following Suspension Of 2 Officers Who Shoved Elderly Protester to Ground

An entire unit of the Buffalo Police Department have resigned from their posts after two of their fellow police officers were suspended without pay.

All 57 officers were members of the Buffalo Police Department Emergency Response Team. .....


However, Buffalo Police Benevolent Association President John Evans, said in a statement that the union supported the officers and that Gugino slipped and fell while interacting with the police and that they were just doing their job in clearing the area as the city approached a mandatory curfew.

"Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square. It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards," Evans said.

Good, now the bigger issue of Police Unions and fellow "good" police officer's unconditional maintenance of the Thin Blue Line has been brought into the discussion.

If these cops resigned from the Unit they are assigned to, and thereby refuse orders, then the Chief should fire them for insubordination or something. I know it's a stretch but if these guys are more loyal to their "Brother Officers" than they are to the human "Brother Americans" then they should have the power to kill stripped. And make n mistake, the ONE cop who tried to stop to help the man was merely nudged away by a fellow cop. That's all it took to show a depraved indifference to human life. A nudge from a Brother Officer.

True, the orders they whine they were just following did not specify who to clear. Did they specify how? So they could have shot him if that was what was required to clear the square?

This is as sickening as the thud of the man's head on the concrete. I spoke to a couple cop friends in Toronto and in the US. All of them were sickened by the recent assaults. All 3 of them said there is indeed a culture of never calling out a fellow cop...NO MATTER WHAT. Even though they represent the overwhelming majority of police, they don't bother being hero's in these circumstances because they would become pariahs, not martyrs. No matter the circumstances.

For all the good cops reading this... what should society do to help you regain your honour in light of the situation you are in working alongside these few bad people that wear badges?
 

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Not commenting on this instance at all but police have a ridiculously difficult job now. There is no amount of money for me to become a cop.
 

t.o.leafs.fan

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And they are COMPLETELY 100% the authors of their own story.
I don't agree with this statement at all. There was a ton of non-compliance before and now there will be so much more non-compliance now and they'll be completely 'handcuffed'. They're literally rolling around in the pig sty and they are no longer allowed to get dirty.
 

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Entire Buffalo Police Unit Resigns Following Suspension Of 2 Officers Who Shoved Elderly Protester to Ground

An entire unit of the Buffalo Police Department have resigned from their posts after two of their fellow police officers were suspended without pay.

All 57 officers were members of the Buffalo Police Department Emergency Response Team. The two members on suspension were captured on video Thursday in an altercation with a 75-year-old man, later identified as Martin Gugino, who was injured during a protest in front of Buffalo City Hall over the death of George Floyd, an unarmed black man who died in police custody on May 25 in Minneapolis.

The video of the two officers and Gugino went viral after it was shared to social media. In the footage, Gugino appears to be pushed by the officers and hits his head on the ground as a result. He sustained head injuries due to the encounter, and remained in a local hospital in stable but serious condition on Friday afternoon, Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown said.

However, Buffalo Police Benevolent Association President John Evans, said in a statement that the union supported the officers and that Gugino slipped and fell while interacting with the police and that they were just doing their job in clearing the area as the city approached a mandatory curfew.

"Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square. It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards," Evans said.

Speaking to reporters on Friday, Erie County Executive Marc Poloncarz said he was "exceptionally disappointed" if the members resigned from the unit "because it indicates to me that they did not see anything wrong with the actions last night."

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who spoke about the incident during his daily COVID-19 press briefing Friday, expressed his shock and said he was sickened by the video.
"You see that video and it disturbs your basic sense of decency and humanity," Cuomo said, while also calling for legislation on sweeping police reform in New York, and a criminal investigation into the actions of the two suspended officers.

Brown said on his Twitter account that he and Buffalo Police Commissioner Byron Lockwood had seen the news footage of the incident, and felt angered and sickened by the incident.

Lockwood launched the investigation which led to the two officers being suspended without pay. No charges have been filed, though the investigation is ongoing.

According to The Buffalo News, the Emergency Response Team members have not quit the police department but have stepped down from the tactical unit which assists with crowd control measures.

In response to the mass resignations from the team, Brown said in a statement that contingency plans are in place to ensure there is no interruption of police and emergency services within the Buffalo community with more protests expected this weekend.

Newsweek contacted Lockwood and Evans for additional comments and did not receive a response in time for publication.

https://www.newsweek.com/entire-buf...s-who-shoved-elderly-protester-ground-1509091

Holy shitty judgment, batman! How out of step with public opinion can you be?!

The video clip with possibly the worst police optics of the last week - and that is saying a FUCK of a lot!!! - and those idiots choose it as their hill to die on!

Not picked for their brains, are they?!

It's shit like this that's going to lose the cops the war for popular opinion.
 

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Entire Buffalo Police Unit Resigns Following Suspension Of 2 Officers Who Shoved Elderly Protester to Ground

An entire unit of the Buffalo Police Department have resigned from their posts after two of their fellow police officers were suspended without pay.

All 57 officers were members of the Buffalo Police Department Emergency Response Team. The two members on suspension were captured on video Thursday in an altercation with a 75-year-old man, later identified as Martin Gugino, who was injured during a protest in front of Buffalo City Hall over the death of George Floyd, an unarmed black man who died in police custody on May 25 in Minneapolis.

The video of the two officers and Gugino went viral after it was shared to social media. In the footage, Gugino appears to be pushed by the officers and hits his head on the ground as a result. He sustained head injuries due to the encounter, and remained in a local hospital in stable but serious condition on Friday afternoon, Buffalo Mayor Byron Brown said.

However, Buffalo Police Benevolent Association President John Evans, said in a statement that the union supported the officers and that Gugino slipped and fell while interacting with the police and that they were just doing their job in clearing the area as the city approached a mandatory curfew.

"Our position is these officers were simply following orders from Deputy Police Commissioner Joseph Gramaglia to clear the square. It doesn't specify clear the square of men, 50 and under or 15 to 40. They were simply doing their job. I don't know how much contact was made. He did slip in my estimation. He fell backwards," Evans said.

Speaking to reporters on Friday, Erie County Executive Marc Poloncarz said he was "exceptionally disappointed" if the members resigned from the unit "because it indicates to me that they did not see anything wrong with the actions last night."

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who spoke about the incident during his daily COVID-19 press briefing Friday, expressed his shock and said he was sickened by the video.
"You see that video and it disturbs your basic sense of decency and humanity," Cuomo said, while also calling for legislation on sweeping police reform in New York, and a criminal investigation into the actions of the two suspended officers.

Brown said on his Twitter account that he and Buffalo Police Commissioner Byron Lockwood had seen the news footage of the incident, and felt angered and sickened by the incident.

Lockwood launched the investigation which led to the two officers being suspended without pay. No charges have been filed, though the investigation is ongoing.

According to The Buffalo News, the Emergency Response Team members have not quit the police department but have stepped down from the tactical unit which assists with crowd control measures.

In response to the mass resignations from the team, Brown said in a statement that contingency plans are in place to ensure there is no interruption of police and emergency services within the Buffalo community with more protests expected this weekend.

Newsweek contacted Lockwood and Evans for additional comments and did not receive a response in time for publication.

https://www.newsweek.com/entire-buf...s-who-shoved-elderly-protester-ground-1509091
Great, then they do not need to be fired.
 

danmand

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AHA, it turns out the 57 policemen did not resign from their jobs. They only left the special unit.
 

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I don't agree with this statement at all. There was a ton of non-compliance before and now there will be so much more non-compliance now and they'll be completely 'handcuffed'. They're literally rolling around in the pig sty and they are no longer allowed to get dirty.
This post makes less sense than wings on a fucking fish.
 

t.o.leafs.fan

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This post makes less sense than wings on a fucking fish.
The cops will now be walking on eggshells. The bad guys will know this. This will make the bad guys even less compliant to police demands. This will make an incredibly difficult job even more incredibly difficult, which brings me back to my original point.
 

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I think US good cops will be taking a lot of FIDO attitude in the future, especially dealing certain elements of society.
 
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