Come on, you should have the confidence to admit who you are and come out of the closet.
FBI investigating death of suspect after Minneapolis police officer put knee on neck
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I have. You just did when you marginalized the protesters. We now have days of clean protests.
You on the other hand are showing your priveledge by saying you prefer the status quo to change if it means things get uncomfortable.
The fact is power doesn't give up power without a fight. To condemn today's protests is to condemn the March's of MLK. And you really need to look at history. They weren't as calm as you think.
Misguided liberal policies is one reason and most probably the major reason why so many black families have only one parent and we (at least the intelligent ones) know that the children of single parent families suffer poverty, poor education, etc.
"More than half of the children born in 1994 will spend some or all of their childhood with only one parent, typically their mother. If current patterns hold, they will likely experience higher rates of poverty, school failure, and other problems as they grow up."
https://prospect.org/health/consequences-single-motherhood/
"More than half of the children born in 1994 will spend some or all of their childhood with only one parent, typically their mother. If current patterns hold, they will likely experience higher rates of poverty, school failure, and other problems as they grow up."
https://prospect.org/health/consequences-single-motherhood/
Florida officer put on leave after kneeling on black man's neck during arrest
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/501122-florida-officer-put-on-leave-after-kneeling-on-black-mans
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/501122-florida-officer-put-on-leave-after-kneeling-on-black-mans
Hitler gassed 5 million Jews. When did Trump ever do that??
Your comparison is laughable
Darts doesn't like how this case is going.
He's now talking liberal policies and black poverty.
His next attempt at deflection will probably move into diabetes plaguing the black community and how conservative policies could have saved them.
If he doesn't like how this one is playing out, then please, please, please don't give him an update on Arbery's.
He's now talking liberal policies and black poverty.
His next attempt at deflection will probably move into diabetes plaguing the black community and how conservative policies could have saved them.
If he doesn't like how this one is playing out, then please, please, please don't give him an update on Arbery's.
It's not racism, maybe you see it that way. My ancestors were brutalized and oppressed by the Turks during the Ottoman empire, nobody is crying about it now. What does what happened hundreds of years ago matter now? Slavery ended a long time ago, yet is still used as an excuse, If a black person gets a good education, corporations are jumping at the chance to hire them. Black people have never had it better to improve their lives. Is that false? Yes they still do face obstacles when it comes to justice and the way they are treated by police and a minority of white America. My point is there are other minority groups who at some point in time were viewed the same way but you don't see the same victimization. Are you claiming that black Americans are worse off now than before?
This alt right bullshit has been doing the rounds for years.
Righties HATE the fact that single moms can get welfare and afford to rent a hovel and feed their kids. It means their taxes are higher. Their "solution" is to "end single families" by denying single moms welfare and allowing them and their kids to starve to death - which is practically what would happen. Because the father wouldn't move in with the mom and kids. He'd stay on his own.
Darts is suggesting that blacks could have had the Leave it to Beaver lifestyle back in the 50's and 60's if they hadn't been "susbsidized" by the Dems "too generous" welfare programs.
Would Blacks have been able to get that nice executive job?....... Or any decent job in the 50's and 60's?....... Err, no. Most unions had a no blacks policy and most executive jobs were out of reach.
How about that nice suburban home?........ Great idea! Except for all those "restrictive covenants" that prevented blacks buying homes in the suburbs. And of course, the fact that banks didn't lend to blacks.
But Darts is still a pretty damn good historian, isn't he? Let's have a big hand for Darts!
There was systemic racism re hiring, lending to and housing blacks into at least the 1980's. I remember my good ol' boy Brit father explaining to me that blacks couldn't be quarterbacks in the NFL because they weren't "smart like white men". End of the 1970's that was.
So you need to do a lot of reading up before you share your opinions around.
I'm not sure how you think your ancestors experience in any way relates to slavery in the USA, the legacies of it which include Jim Crow and the fight for civil rights. You thought because slavery was over black's weren't hunted and killed with their killers going free? Do you think it was ok to form USA PD departments using KKK members? You thought that was a good idea?
Do you even know what the US justice system does and why for the same crime blacks get the 3 years while whites go home if they don't 6 months? Would you believe me if I told you a white judge refused to convict a white adult for using an object to sodomise a disabled black child that it wasn't sexual assault or even sexual in nature and sent him home?
Speaking of slavery and the legacies, do you know why confederate statues were erected? Do you know why it was a big deal to FINALLY remove them just the other day? Are there Nazi statues all over Germany? Then you'd wonder why they were all over the southern part of the USA right?
There is a lot to say on this subject that you clearly don't understand. You'll need to get the education outside of TERB. Any time you're ready for it, just say so. Every group's experience in the USA will be different Blacks and Native Americans were the two who here heavily targetted and everything they built was destroyed.
As for what happened hundreds years ago not mattering now, you should go tell that to Haiti. LOL. Enslaved. Fight for freedom. Owe your slave masters because you won and kicked them out. Debt finally paid off in 1947. Poor as fuck now. Piece of shit leaders (probably beholden to France) who steal from the people doesn't help, but still...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_debt_of_Haiti
It's still happening now. There have been studies that show a "black" sounding name on a resume means less chance at getting an interview. Or an apt.
Banks still screw them over in the USA. The sub prime mortgage scan was directed at them. They even used Carter's fair housing act as an excuse.
Can you do that though?
I thought with a single crime, and a single count, like this one, the prosecution had to pick only one charge, and that is the one they bring before the court.
A person has only committed a single count of a single crime. How can they be charged twice for the same crime? Doesn't that fall under double jeopardy?
In the states they use this technique all the time. They let the jury decide.
It helps especially in politically charged cases where a jury member sympathetic to the defendant but seeing they are wrong can opt for this to prevent a hung jury.
Double jeopardy applies when a defendant is aquitted to prevent malicious prosecution. And only after the trial is over.
First off, the whole slavery issue needs to be put to bed for the conversation about what is happening today to move forward.
You know how many races have been enslaved? And how many races have participated in Slave Trades.
Whites, Arabic, and Blacks, are just a few of the races who participated and profited from the Black Slave Trade of the 19th century.
And Blacks aren't even the Group of people who have been enslave the longest. The Jews have that distinction.
The Group that has the distinction of being enslaved by the most individual groups throughout history belongs to the Irish.
The Irish were enslaved by the Romans.
The Irish were enslaved by the Saxons.
The Irish were enslaved by the Danes.
The Irish were basically enslaved by the English.
The Irish were treated like dirt in the US.
The Irish were treated like dirt in Canada.
Do you know that at the start of the 1900s in Toronto, it was illegal for the Irish to own property, or hold public office. Yet, during that same time, Toronto had a Black Councilman, who served as Mayor occasionally.
Many different races and groups have been enslaved, and have enslaved others. Blacks don't have the monopoly on being victims, and whites don't have the monopoly on victimization. So bringing it up now to justify political opinion on current day events is a straw man argument, and simply shows your inability to grasp current concepts and events.
Secondly, conflating the Black experience in the US with the one in Canada also serves to completely obfuscate the real conversation that should be happening in this country.
Canada has it's own racial problems, and we do have problems, but they are very different than those in the States, and they will never be solved if people keep bringing up the USA's racial problems and demanding that Canada fix those.
That's like someone demanding you spend all your time fixing the basement of your house, simply because your neighbor has issues with their basement. And while you run around trying to fix a basement that's perfectly fine, you ignore the problem you've had with your roof for years.
Not all the blame for black poverty should be placed on blacks. Misguided white liberal policies are also to blame.
For starter, one could read up on Democratic President Lyndon Johnson's disastrous "War On Poverty". There are now more more poor black families than there were in the 1960's.
For starter, one could read up on Democratic President Lyndon Johnson's disastrous "War On Poverty". There are now more more poor black families than there were in the 1960's.
The race baiters love to provide all kinds of race based statistics except statistics on black crime and black criminals.
BTW: You are wasting your time trying to reason with that other poster as his posts are nothing more than rants and false racist accusations. Thank you for trying anyway.
Where do I start?...
1. Romans never conquered Ireland.
2. Saxons never conquered Ireland.
3. Danes and Irish formed alliances to subjugate other Irish.
4. Irish were treated awfully by the Brits. Irish fought a revolution and drove the Brits out forcibly in 1920. THAT'S how the Irish got back on their feet. That's sort of like Malcom X saying that Black had to have their own country.
5. Irish were treated like dirt by the Americans for about 20 years until there were enough Irish to politically take over New York and Boston. After that, the Irish called the shots.
6. Can you give me a source for your stuff about the Irish in Ontario? Some of the old super established Bay St law firms - i.e. McCarthy Tetrault - have Irish names and that suggests the Irish were politically and economically powerful in TO by the late 1800's.
When you're ready to have an intelligent conversation you can let us know. We are talking about the American system and the legacy of it, and your bringing in a lot of pointless nonsense. The laughable parts are listing who was 'treated like dirt'. Go away with your false equivalences and come back with a real argument about US chattel slavery, the civil war, Jim crow, and everything that followed.
If you need the education, just let me know. I can help you find the information. You clearly know nothing about the American system and it's history.
I honestly think you lack reading comprehension skills, and I hope it's because English is not your first language. I am not sure how Canada jumped in this conversation.
I mean, are you well?
PS: There were Irish indentured servants in Jamaica during slavery. Although Irish were poorly treated, do you think they had the same experience as African slaves in Jamaica at the same time?? East Indians were also brought to the Caribbean under the same indentured servitude. What do you know about indentured servitude as opposed to slavery?? Start here if you wish: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indentured_servitude
PPS: But alas all that has nothing to do with the legacies of USA and what we see taking place now....in the USA.
