REOPENING AT STAGE 2, with recommendations for Coordinated Toronto Reopening Strategy

[wiskey bravo]

Upon reopening the agencies cannot eliminate the risk. They can try to clean some touch points the best they can but the girls/agencies are not super human, they can only do so much without being ridiculous. You have to accept the risk of C19 if you plan to hobby or go to work, the LCBO, the gas station, the grocery store etc etc etc.

Yes, the agencies should reopen.

If things such as dfk, daty and bbbj are no longer offered and masks are required then they can stay closed forever. They can go out of business for all I care. If some do plan on shutting down, post it now and let the girls find a new place to work. I have no doubt if some close, someone else will try to replace them. I have a feeling none of the reputable agencies will close because of C19 but they need to reopen to generate money not just for themselves but for the girls, the bookers and other that work for them

I still dont see how humping and LCBO are similar? We can agree to disagree hahaha. Cool? Respect!

I totally agree if the transaction between two people become so restrictive then don/t bother opening. This is one industry among others who are suffering. Such is life. Unfortunate. They are not suffering on their own. Businese's will close and others will re-open. The circle of life continues. Perhaps we walk away from this thinking about having a bigger nest egg for a rainy day. That can't hurt.

I rather be discussing this with you over a glass of wine or beer! A social distancing beavy! Trust me I miss the human interaction as well. I'm still working, however, doing my part. Trying too. Life hasn't changed so much for me.
Hope this hasn't derailed your financial or personal life man.

 

[bebe]

I rather be discussing this with you over a glass of wine or beer! A social distancing beavy! Trust me I miss the human interaction as well. I'm still working, however, doing my part. Trying too. Life hasn't changed so much for me.
Hope this hasn't derailed your financial or personal life man.

Nah, my life has not changed since the lockdown started accept no visits to see my favourite SPs. Been working everyday at the office. Drive to and from is awesome, traffic so light.

Just miss the ladies. No reason to stay away from them any longer as the lockdown is no longer required

 

[jetwolf]

But I can say that if I was a girl that needed to stay relevant and not lose a chunk of business I am basically forced to open stage two now.

Could you elaborate on this? Why does agencies reopening force indies to open to stay relevant?

Is your concern that agencies reopening will reduce the demand that's currently there for virtual services? I would think some demand for virtual services will remain from gentlemen who would prefer to play it safe and not engage in in-person services even after agencies reopen.

 

[coolmanfever]

any possible changes in pricing when re-open?

 

[drewstar]

any possible changes in pricing when re-open?

1 hr minimum for Allegra.

 

[jcpro]

Upon reopening the agencies cannot eliminate the risk. They can try to clean some touch points the best they can but the girls/agencies are not super human, they can only do so much without being ridiculous. You have to accept the risk of C19 if you plan to hobby or go to work, the LCBO, the gas station, the grocery store etc etc etc.

You have to accept the risks no matter what you do, get behind the wheel of a car, drink booze, smoke, do drugs, climb a tree, eat that bag of salty chips. Risks are every where.

Yes, the agencies should reopen.

If things such as dfk, daty and bbbj are no longer offered and masks are required then they can stay closed forever. They can go out of business for all I care. If some do plan on shutting down, post it now and let the girls find a new place to work. I have no doubt if some close, someone else will try to replace them. I have a feeling none of the reputable agencies will close because of C19 but they need to reopen to generate money not just for themselves but for the girls, the bookers and other that work for them

I stopped by NoFrills the other day to grab a case of San Pellegrino water. I got to say that I have never seen it cleaner. Same with my local Longo's. Both stores were spotless!! Now, what does this do to combat the Corona virus? Absolutely nothing! Yet, I appreciate the effort and I hope they keep it up. And it's kind of the same with the agencies' "initiatives". Cleaner rooms, cleaner customers, cleaner girls, longer breaks and better rested ladies, stringent health monitoring- all good things. Regardless if there's a virus going around or not.

 

[Knuckle Ball]

Italy is re-opening. Their Prime Minister says their economy can't afford to stay closed any longer.

In retrospect, they never should have closed in the first place.

You should start seeing escorts immediately if you haven’t already.

 

[bebe]

I stopped by NoFrills the other day to grab a case of San Pellegrino water. I got to say that I have never seen it cleaner. Same with my local Longo's. Both stores were spotless!! Now, what does this do to combat the Corona virus? Absolutely nothing! Yet, I appreciate the effort and I hope they keep it up. And it's kind of the same with the agencies' "initiatives". Cleaner rooms, cleaner customers, cleaner girls, longer breaks and better rested ladies, stringent health monitoring- all good things. Regardless if there's a virus going around or not.

Mirage should stop using that dump, at that one location lots of us have visited, no amount of cleaning will improve those units.

Hope they can capitalize on the downturn and snap up some new units

 

[farquhar]

Mirage should stop using that dump, at that one location lots of us have visited, no amount of cleaning will improve those units.

Hope they can capitalize on the downturn and snap up some new units

It is speculated that many amateur Hoteliers on Airbnb in Toronto are returning their units to the long-term market...so, there may quite a few good opportunities out there.

 

[Leslielake]

Upon reopening the agencies cannot eliminate the risk. They can try to clean some touch points the best they can but the girls/agencies are not super human, they can only do so much without being ridiculous. You have to accept the risk of C19 if you plan to hobby or go to work, the LCBO, the gas station, the grocery store etc etc etc.

You have to accept the risks no matter what you do, get behind the wheel of a car, drink booze, smoke, do drugs, climb a tree, eat that bag of salty chips. Risks are every where.

Yes, the agencies should reopen.

If things such as dfk, daty and bbbj are no longer offered and masks are required then they can stay closed forever. They can go out of business for all I care. If some do plan on shutting down, post it now and let the girls find a new place to work. I have no doubt if some close, someone else will try to replace them. I have a feeling none of the reputable agencies will close because of C19 but they need to reopen to generate money not just for themselves but for the girls, the bookers and other that work for them

There will be absolutely no lfk/dfk or most likely bbbj and I'm pretty sure masks will be mandatory. Covid is easily transferable by saliva and droplets.

 

[bebe]

There will be absolutely no lfk/dfk or most likely bbbj and I'm pretty sure masks will be mandatory. Covid is easily transferable by saliva and droplets.

Yes, yes yes, your standard reply.

Doubt very much the level of service will drop. It would ruin a girl’s stellar reputation. Her business will go bust

 

[Knuckle Ball]

There will be absolutely no lfk/dfk or most likely bbbj and I'm pretty sure masks will be mandatory. Covid is easily transferable by saliva and droplets.

The agencies will say that services are at the escorts’ discretion...but the reality of it will be no lfk/dfk. BJ’s will probably have to be covered.

I doubt they’ll go so far as to insist on masks.

 

[bebe]

The agencies will say that services are at the escorts’ discretion...but the reality of it will be no lfk/dfk. BJ’s will probably have to be covered.

I doubt they’ll go so far as to insist on masks.

If you are right the agencies need to tell us up front so we know who not see and which agencies not to book with

If they are not up front the number of negative reviews will be off the charts. Might reach pandemic proportions

 

[Robertshan]

Congrats to Nikki as your research and presentation is great, very well planned and well-thought. Bravo! it helped me to plan and write an article how to open my industry! ))
However I Totally agree with Jcpro:
>>>1) Contact tracing is a non starter for the vast majority of the customers and pointless due to long incubation period. Also, most of the girls are fairly young, therefore, statistically, they will be asymptomatic.
I did not hear that any agency did it on STDs, so no way it is practical to do with COVID-19. Everyone understands and accepts the risks when starting hobby activity. No official disclaimers needed!
>>> 2) A shower is always a good idea, but makes no difference when you engage in the vigorous sexual activity. The vast majority of the customers who are infected will show no symptoms, either. So, you can screen to one's heart content, but in the end, it will work out about the same.
Can't agree more! Just have the guy sanitize his hands right after entering the door (to prevent any virus on the surf-ice inside the room because you may have it on your fingers e.g. by pressing hi-touch area in the hotel or condo) You can ask your questions on COVID before booking and let the lady be as usual and do her job being nice and kiss right after sanitizing your hands. Do not go to stupid thing taking the temperature as it is asymptomatic.
In general all ladies with catch it - be ready for it! but the good thing they are yonge and strong and will fight it off easily then they will develop immunity and will not be able to spread it within the next shift. Likewise, the fact that the guy wants to see a lady means he is healthy enough and his testosterone level is good to fight off the COVID-19. You or the lady is not there to assess clients underlying conditions! I would temporarily limit clients over 70 due to high risk level based on the CDC statistics until the vaccine and/or proper clinical treatment is developed.


3) You can open tomorrow or in June, it makes no difference as the virus will still be fairly common among the population. In the end the customers and the girls will weigh the risks for themselves and reach their own conclusions based on individual needs and wants. There are plenty of ladies that are already working(I'm not saying it's good or bad, it just is). Of course, as soon as the Oriental agencies hit the bricks, we're off to the races."
>>>> Totally agree.

 

[hoorawr]

There will be absolutely no lfk/dfk or most likely bbbj and I'm pretty sure masks will be mandatory. Covid is easily transferable by saliva and droplets.

Then it’s quite simple, I won’t give my money to Allegra and instead will go to SPs who provided dfk and bbbj.

You idiots who believe that restricting kissing and a covered blowjob will somehow make having sex with an infected individual not risky are so delusional it’s not even funny. Complete morons . This disease has proven it can spread from a sneeze that you had on your sleeve 4 hours ago

The free market will prevail as always in this industry


The only logical safeguarding measure to take is no clients over the age of 60. Sorry old timers, I’m almost up there myself. Otherwise, the virus will spread, with or without condoms , kissing, washing, showering, etc. End of the day, your bodies are rubbing up on each other. If a escort agency owner doesn’t realize this simple fact, then their business is run by a moron anyways to begin with

 

[Cheeta]

Then it’s quite simple, I won’t give my money to Allegra and instead will go to SPs who provided dfk and bbbj.

You idiots who believe that restricting kissing and a covered blowjob will somehow make having sex with an infected individual not risky are so delusional it’s not even funny. Complete morons . This disease has proven it can spread from a sneeze that you had on your sleeve 4 hours ago

The free market will prevail as always in this industry


The only logical safeguarding measure to take is no clients over the age of 60. Sorry old timers, I’m almost up there myself. Otherwise, the virus will spread, with or without condoms , kissing, washing, showering, etc. End of the day, your bodies are rubbing up on each other. If a escort agency owner doesn’t realize this simple fact, then their business is run by a moron anyways to begin with

Well stated, All agencies in UK have been open all along. As my fav UK escort was telling me , this is dying business. Not familiar with Allegra. At least in Canada some agencies are talking about re-opening.

 

[Smallcock]

If an SP has covid-19, it should result in an automatic 75% discount when seeing her while she's contagious.

 

[Smallcock]

The agencies will say that services are at the escorts’ discretion...but the reality of it will be no lfk/dfk. BJ’s will probably have to be covered.

I doubt they’ll go so far as to insist on masks.

Maybe they will supply full-body condoms?

 

[jcpro]

There will be absolutely no lfk/dfk or most likely bbbj and I'm pretty sure masks will be mandatory. Covid is easily transferable by saliva and droplets.

Well, that's worth about $80/h.

 

[giggleballer]

Well, that's worth about $80/h.

According to the health officials... not just saliva and droplets, but all bodily fluids can transfer the virus. Hence why they are urging folks to stay to your own; wife, friend or by yourself for now.

Whatever people choose to do... just be aware of the risk... and own your decision.