The Pandemic That Wasn't

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What I find fascinating is that the "open up now" crowd, when pressed, want the exact same thing the "do it right" crowd wants.
Proper space to treat people who are infected without impacting other people who need medical care. Extra care taken to prevent outbreaks in vulnerable populations. Reasonable risk management and response to flare ups and outbreaks.
Despite that, they seem to think those things will happen magically without any work. We just open up and all these systems magically drop into place.
It's very odd.
This has nothing to do with magic.
This is a monumental task that will take a very long time to rectify.
There will be a vaccine and Covid-19 will be long gone before this issue is resolved.
This is an issue for future pandemics.


Pressure mounts on federal government to help fix, build long-term care homes as pandemic takes deadly toll
The catastrophic impact of COVID-19 on the long-term care sector likely was made worse by the outdated design and crowded conditions found in some facilities, experts say — and they blame governments for failing to fund renovations and new construction.
Jodi Hall, chair of the Canadian Association for Long Term Care (CALTC), said the pandemic's tragic toll has drawn public attention to a problem that's been around for years – chronic underfunding of long-term care homes by all levels of government. She's calling on Ottawa to step up.
Many existing nursing homes maintain four-bed, hospital-like wards, with residents separated only by a curtain. Older facilities also have shared washrooms and bathing areas, crowded dining rooms and narrow hallways.
"It raises a lot of challenges from an infection control perspective," Hall told CBC.
"There are many lessons to be learned and, as we look to the future, this is one that we can't continue to overlook."
About 80 per cent of all COVID-19-related deaths in Canada have been in long-term care facilities. The Canadian Armed Forces has deployed more than 1,250 personnel to help care for residents in seniors' homes in Quebec and Ontario, where there have been severe outbreaks.
Hall said homes with more modern designs and practices would have "assisted a stronger response" to the pandemic. Last month, the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) rolled out a guidance document on infection prevention and control in long-term care homes — but Hall said some of those guidelines are "basically impossible" to follow in outdated facilities.
The CALTC has submitted four consecutive requests for federal funding in pre-budget presentations, but to date no investments have been promised.
She recently wrote to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and several key ministers, saying it's "imperative" that the federal government address the problem.
Shared rooms can be 'devastating'
"Any existing outbreak management plan in a long-term care home, including the isolation of symptomatic residents, is hindered by the inadequate space and layout available in long-term care homes today. We are seeing how devastating these shared rooms can be during an outbreak," she wrote.
"(Infrastructure) Minister Catherine McKenna has announced funding for shovel-ready projects and she is quoted as saying that her office is prepared to be flexible with its program rules in order to get money out the door to address the impact of COVID-19 on the Canadian economy. To date, however, we have not seen any support from the federal government on this issue."
McKenna has said the government will take a flexible approach to finding projects that are "shovel-worthy" and can get started fast to help drive an economic recovery.
Her spokesperson David Taylor said the pandemic has emphasized the importance of protecting vulnerable seniors and supporting long-term care facilities.
Pat Armstrong, a sociology professor at York University who led the 10-year international project Re-imagining Long-term Residential Care, said Canada needs a national long-term care law separate from the Canada Health Act. She said federal funding for long-term care facilities could be tied to certain conditions, such as improving the physical infrastructure of facilities.
While we won't know for certain until there is a post-pandemic review of individual outbreaks, Armstrong said the outdated designs of many of the facilities — some of which were built in the 1960s — likely contributed to the fast spread of the virus.
"If you have four people in a room that only has curtains and is crowded, people are going to cough and spit and people with dementia are less likely to be able to carry out the hand sanitizing ... or covering mouths. So the more crowded you are, the more likely it is to happen," she said.
Infection control challenges
Many homes don't have the capacity to properly separate those who have symptoms from those who do not, making infection control a challenge.
Armstrong said the lack of proper public funding for improved facility design reflects the low value Canadians attach to caring for the elderly – something she hopes will change after the pandemic finally ends.
"If we're ever going to have an opportunity to put pressure on, thinking about how we care for our elderly, now is the time," she said. "I think that we owe it to the people who have died that we learn something from this to make it better."
 

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Dr. Fauci Is Wrong Again: Coronavirus Cases Drop to New Lows After Georgia Opens the State and Lifts Lockdown Orders -UPDATE


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ws-georgia-opens-state-lifts-lockdown-orders/

In fact, it starting to look like this guy is NEVER right about anything?
It must be nice having a government job and not have to worry about getting fired!



THE LIST: Dr. Fauci’s 12 Deadly Mistakes and Contradictions — Including His Worst Mistake of Delaying Herd Immunity While Destroying US Economy

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...delaying-herd-immunity-destroying-us-economy/
 

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Use of masks during COVID-19 not always the answer, says epidemiologist
As New Brunswick continues to reopen for business, the use of masks is being strongly recommended by the government when physical distancing cannot be maintained.
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said anyone who cannot keep an effective physical distance during COVID-19 should wear a mask. Some exceptions include children under two and people who can't wear a mask because of breathing troubles.
But Dr. Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, says wearing a mask can be dangerous. That is if the wrong mask is worn, it's worn incorrectly or people have incorrect expectations when wearing it.
"The worst one is wearing one for too long," she said, noting masks can collect bacteria and other viruses.

He said a study in a U.K. medical journal showed health-care workers who wore cloth masks all day while working were 13 times more likely to get a respiratory illness when compared to the standard practice of only wearing a mask when necessary.
Those who wore a paper or procedure mask were twice as likely to get some type of respiratory infection if they wore it all day. The N95 masks were only worn when required during the study and no staff were affected.
"This shouldn't surprise us," Furness said. "A mask, you're breathing on it all day long creating all this wonderful space for bacteria to multiply, and once they get to a certain quantity you start inhaling them."
He said drug-resistant bacteria could be worse than COVID-19 for some people.

Furness said he despairs at advice around use of masks, adding it makes people feel safe because they are doing it to protect themselves.
"I'm not anti-mask," he said, noting he is against use without "accompanying literacy."
Furness said many think wearing a mask all day long makes the most sense to stay safe, but it's not. "It's counterintuitive and that can be harmful for people."
He said that is worrying because if people are wearing masks and feeling safe, then that will displace physical distancing.
"It's like, it's OK, we're wearing masks, we can be close together. That's what I worry about and I can't say I have hard proof but it is certainly cause for concern."
 

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Use of masks during COVID-19 not always the answer, says epidemiologist
As New Brunswick continues to reopen for business, the use of masks is being strongly recommended by the government when physical distancing cannot be maintained.
Dr. Jennifer Russell, New Brunswick's chief medical officer of health, said anyone who cannot keep an effective physical distance during COVID-19 should wear a mask. Some exceptions include children under two and people who can't wear a mask because of breathing troubles.
But Dr. Colin Furness, an infection control epidemiologist and assistant professor at the University of Toronto, says wearing a mask can be dangerous. That is if the wrong mask is worn, it's worn incorrectly or people have incorrect expectations when wearing it.
"The worst one is wearing one for too long," she said, noting masks can collect bacteria and other viruses.

He said a study in a U.K. medical journal showed health-care workers who wore cloth masks all day while working were 13 times more likely to get a respiratory illness when compared to the standard practice of only wearing a mask when necessary.
Those who wore a paper or procedure mask were twice as likely to get some type of respiratory infection if they wore it all day. The N95 masks were only worn when required during the study and no staff were affected.
"This shouldn't surprise us," Furness said. "A mask, you're breathing on it all day long creating all this wonderful space for bacteria to multiply, and once they get to a certain quantity you start inhaling them."
He said drug-resistant bacteria could be worse than COVID-19 for some people.

Furness said he despairs at advice around use of masks, adding it makes people feel safe because they are doing it to protect themselves.
"I'm not anti-mask," he said, noting he is against use without "accompanying literacy."
Furness said many think wearing a mask all day long makes the most sense to stay safe, but it's not. "It's counterintuitive and that can be harmful for people."
He said that is worrying because if people are wearing masks and feeling safe, then that will displace physical distancing.
"It's like, it's OK, we're wearing masks, we can be close together. That's what I worry about and I can't say I have hard proof but it is certainly cause for concern."

Why Shut Down? COVID-19 Infections Would Plummet If 80% Of Americans Just Wore Masks According To Study


Despite what the World Health Organization https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...9/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks
and Dr. Anthony Fauci https://twitter.com/FuctupMike/status/1257868855986307072?s=20
tell you, a new study has concluded that if 80% of Americans were to wear a mask, COVID-19 infections would drop by more than 90%.




And as Vanity Fair notes, consider this;

The day before yesterday, 21 people died of COVID-19 in Japan. In the United States, 2,129 died. Comparing overall death rates for the two countries offers an even starker point of comparison with total U.S. deaths now at a staggering 76,032 and Japan’s fatalities at 577. Japan’s population is about 38% of the U.S., but even adjusting for population, the Japanese death rate is a mere 2% of America’s.

This comes despite Japan having no lockdown, still-active subways, and many businesses that have remained open—reportedly including karaoke bars, although Japanese citizens and industries are practicing social distancing where they can. Nor have the Japanese broadly embraced contact tracing, a practice by which health authorities identify someone who has been infected and then attempt to identify everyone that person might have interacted with—and potentially infected. So how does Japan do it?


So what is Japan doing differently?

"One reason is that nearly everyone there is wearing a mask," said UC Berkeley computer scientist De Kai, the chief architect of an in-depth joint study with Hong Kong University.

Kai's study suggests that every one of us should be wearing a mask - be it homemade, surgical, scarf or bandana, like the Japanese are doing along with other (mostly East Asian) countries.




The mask debate, of course, has been raging for weeks in the States and globally. Pro-maskers assert that the widespread use of face coverings can diminish the spread of COVID-19. Some anti-maskers, including various politicians and public health officials, have insisted that there is no proof of the efficacy of face guards. According to some activists, a blanket mask mandate places a limit on individual liberty and even one’s right to free speech. (Pro-mask advocates are fighting back with #masks4all and #wearafuckingmask Twitter campaigns).


Representatives of the World Health Organization have also been sounding rather anti-mask,
https://www.who.int/emergencies/dis...9/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks fretting that many people won’t wear masks properly, thereby risking infection, or that masks will give people a false sense of security and encourage risky behavior, such as partying up close and personal—none of which seems to have played out, as far as we know, in Japan or Hong Kong or other mask-wearing places. Adding to the brouhaha has been the shortage of medical masks for doctors, nurses, bus drivers, and the guy who delivers burritos to your door. -Vanity Fair

"I felt like this was pretty urgent," said De Kai - the son of Chinese immigrants who was born in St. Louis. "I saw the country where I grew up, where my family lives [now mostly in the Bay Area], about to face this pandemic without knowing much about something as simple as wearing a mask to protect themselves and others."

Kai built a forecasting computer model called the masksim simulator, https://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~dekai/mirror/masksim/
which uses sophisticated models used by epidemiologists to track outbreaks of various pathogens such as SARS, Ebola and COVID-19, and simulate the effect of wearing masks on infection rates. It incorporates randomness and unpredictability inherent to human behavior, such as when an infected person decides to drop everything and take off to the beach for a dose of Vitamin D. Kai's team also added their own variables, such as how effective different masks are at blocking aerosolized droplets of coronavirus.

Along with the masksim site, the team is also releasing a study https://arxiv.org/pdf/2004.13553.pdf
that describes their model in detail as well as their contention that masksim’s forecasts support a growing body of pro-mask evidence. https://rs-delve.github.io/reports/2020/05/04/face-masks-for-the-general-public.html
"What’s most important about wearing masks right now,”
said Guy-Philippe Goldstein, an economist, cybersecurity expert, and lecturer at the Ecole de Guerre Economique in Paris—and a masksim collaborator, “is that it works, along with social distancing, to flatten the curve of infections as we wait for treatments and vaccines to be developed—while also allowing people to go out and some businesses to reopen.”


While all models have limitations and are only as good as their assumptions, this one is “a very thorough model and well done,” said William Schaffner, an infectious disease specialist at Vanderbilt University, who reviewed the De Kai team’s paper. “It supports a notion that I advocate along with most other infectious disease experts: that masks are very, very important.” Jeremy Howard, founding researcher at fast.ai and a distinguished research scientist at the University of San Francisco, also assessed the paper. “It’s almost overkill how careful they were with this modeling,” said Howard, who also coauthored and spearheaded a study last month (recently submitted to the journal PNAS) https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202004.0203/v1
that reviewed dozens of papers assessing the effectiveness of masks. -Vanity Fair

So, is it time to reopen the economy and simply mask up until COVID-19 is no more?
 

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You don't need to test everyone. 15,000 a day would put us at about .1% of the population a day as you say. You probably need the ability to consistently test at least 0.15% of the population a day. Let's say 0.2% to be safe. That means doubling it to 30,000 a day or so.
If they could logistically organize a randomized antibody test of about 700 people in Ontario (pop 14million or so), they can get a plus or minus 5% estimate of the percentage of population who have been infected in the past. Plus or minus 2% would require about 4000 randomized tests.

Logistically it is difficult or near impossible though.
 

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If you can`t re-open when you are down to 1 or 2 new known cases per day, when can you re-open?

Hokkaido, the second largest island in Japan, was down to just a few new cases per day but now they are locking down again after a much worse second wave.

"To me this is a little bit like a marathon, it feels like we are way into it but we are only 1km into it"


I think they are over-reacting prematurely.
When you only have 1 or 2 new known cases per day, you can`t just look at the percentage increase when you end the lockdown.
1000% is still just 10 - 20.

Unless you are going to wait a couple of years for a vaccine, there is no choice but to open up in a way that does not overwhelm the health care system.
 

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What I find fascinating is that the "open up now" crowd, when pressed, want the exact same thing the "do it right" crowd wants.
Proper space to treat people who are infected without impacting other people who need medical care. Extra care taken to prevent outbreaks in vulnerable populations. Reasonable risk management and response to flare ups and outbreaks.
Despite that, they seem to think those things will happen magically without any work. We just open up and all these systems magically drop into place.
It's very odd.
The "Open businesses now" now crowd do not want the exact same thing, many of them actully want the exact opposite of those measures that need to be in place to be able to open businesses successfully.
I fully believe the majority of the "Open businesses now" crowd are the same poeple that will be complainig about the tracing and health measures that need to be prior and will be in place after opening non essential businesses.
 

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All Propaganda, All The Time

Twitter breathlessly reports that Brazil is the “world’s fourth biggest (COVID) hotspot.”

Brazil is a huge country with more than 200 million people. Deaths per million there are not in the top 25, less than 10% of Belgium, and lower than Denmark – which the press always holds out as a model of success.

 

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YouTube removed a video of a prominent epidemiologist explaining his view that achieving “herd immunity” is the best way to combat the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

Dr. Knut M. Wittkowski is a former head of biostatistics, epidemiology and research design at Rockefeller University, but his contrarian take on tackling coronavirus was removed by the tech company for purported “misinformation.”


A prominent advocate for the concept of “herd immunity” as being the only effective way, short of a vaccine, that society can fully return to normal life, Wittkowski considers social distancing and lockdown measures to be unnecessary and even counterproductive.

A video on the topic produced by British company Journeyman Pictures and featuring the former Rockefeller University epidemiologist had 1.3 million views before it was removed for what YouTube called a violation of their “community standards,” the New York Post reported Saturday.

“With all respiratory diseases, the only thing that stops the disease is herd immunity,” Wittkowski reportedly said in the video. “About 80% of the people need to have had contact with the virus, and the majority of them won’t even have recognized that they were infected.”

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/16/knut-wittkowski-youtube-censorship-coronavirus-herd-immunity/


real doctors are being censored if they go against the science funded and bought by Bill Gates and company
 

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YouTube removed a video of a prominent epidemiologist explaining his view that achieving “herd immunity” is the best way to combat the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

Dr. Knut M. Wittkowski is a former head of biostatistics, epidemiology and research design at Rockefeller University, but his contrarian take on tackling coronavirus was removed by the tech company for purported “misinformation.”


A prominent advocate for the concept of “herd immunity” as being the only effective way, short of a vaccine, that society can fully return to normal life, Wittkowski considers social distancing and lockdown measures to be unnecessary and even counterproductive.

A video on the topic produced by British company Journeyman Pictures and featuring the former Rockefeller University epidemiologist had 1.3 million views before it was removed for what YouTube called a violation of their “community standards,” the New York Post reported Saturday.

“With all respiratory diseases, the only thing that stops the disease is herd immunity,” Wittkowski reportedly said in the video. “About 80% of the people need to have had contact with the virus, and the majority of them won’t even have recognized that they were infected.”

https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/16/knut-wittkowski-youtube-censorship-coronavirus-herd-immunity/


real doctors are being censored if they go against the science funded and bought by Bill Gates and company
Looked into this guy. He is a real doctor of computer science severe lacking of biology. Anyways he is certainly in the minority of “real doctors “ so if you’re gonna put so much value in doctor opinions maybe value the opinion of the 95+% who are saying the opposite.... you can’t pick and choose from science and ignore the other 95%

I actually looked into this guy and he has clearly lost his mind. His arguments have 0 scientific backing. He was saying it’s a “bad flu”. It’s interesting he is now part of a business trying to profit off IP scientific algorithms that normally get published in open access. He also was fired from Rockefeller university which you use a affiliation for.
 

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Looked into this guy. He is a real doctor of computer science severe lacking of biology. Anyways he is certainly in the minority of “real doctors “ so if you’re gonna put so much value in doctor opinions maybe value the opinion of the 95+% who are saying the opposite.... you can’t pick and choose from science and ignore the other 95%

I actually looked into this guy and he has clearly lost his mind. His arguments have 0 scientific backing. He was saying it’s a “bad flu”. It’s interesting he is now part of a business trying to profit off IP scientific algorithms that normally get published in open access. He also was fired from Rockefeller university which you use a affiliation for.
This is why CanadaMan can relate to the quack, they are in the same mental rubber raft.
 

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Study Led by D.A. Henderson — The Man Who Eradicated Smallpox — Found Draconian Lockdowns for Flu Pandemics Ineffective and Even Destructive

D. A. Henderson was an American medical doctor, educator, and epidemiologist who directed a 10-year international effort (1967–1977) that eradicated smallpox throughout the world. Dr. Henderson was later the Dean of John Hopkins School of Public Health.

Before his death in 2016 Dr. Henderson authored a report on pandemics and the value of lockdowns.

According to Dr. Henderson and a team of esteemed epidemiologists lockdowns were found to be “ineffective and destructive.”

Draconian “lockdowns” for pandemic flus were rejected as ineffective and destructive, in a seminal 2006 paper, on infectious disease & socioeconomic grounds, by serious, experienced epidemiologists, led by D.A. Henderson, who eradicated smallpox.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.552.1109&rep=rep1&type=pdf


real science from a real doctor who eradicated smallpox not the fake crap paid for by sociopath Bill Gates



end the lockdowns now
 

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Study Led by D.A. Henderson — The Man Who Eradicated Smallpox — Found Draconian Lockdowns for Flu Pandemics Ineffective and Even Destructive

D. A. Henderson was an American medical doctor, educator, and epidemiologist who directed a 10-year international effort (1967–1977) that eradicated smallpox throughout the world. Dr. Henderson was later the Dean of John Hopkins School of Public Health.

Before his death in 2016 Dr. Henderson authored a report on pandemics and the value of lockdowns.

According to Dr. Henderson and a team of esteemed epidemiologists lockdowns were found to be “ineffective and destructive.”

Draconian “lockdowns” for pandemic flus were rejected as ineffective and destructive, in a seminal 2006 paper, on infectious disease & socioeconomic grounds, by serious, experienced epidemiologists, led by D.A. Henderson, who eradicated smallpox.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.552.1109&rep=rep1&type=pdf


real science from a real doctor who eradicated smallpox not the fake crap paid for by sociopath Bill Gates



end the lockdowns now

You are quoting a dead man on a pandemic he never saw. How is that real science ?

Dr Henderson is a pioneer of John Hopkins school of public health whose been a very strong advocate for lock down since January. His students and his philosophies I am sure are Strong in their way of thought . If he was alive today I would guess he would agree with what 95% if his colleagues are saying. You are quoting him on something he never saw Ans he never had the data on. The whole thing avoid covid is that it is novel. You can’t use someone’s opinions on previous pandemics on it. That is frankly stupid.


Real science is published in scientific journals not YouTube videos. Real science uses data to make conclusions not conclusions to find data. Real science does not work on conspiracy theories. Also what the fuck does bill gates have to do with this. None of the local doctors here in Ontario give a shit about bill gates no one is being payed by him or anything.

If you gonna say crazy shit go ahead. The earth is also flat according to some. But if you want to use science to justify your crazy shit atleast use the scientific method and that does not involve quoting a dead man or using YouTube videos.
 

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I actually looked into this guy and he has clearly lost his mind. His arguments have 0 scientific backing. He was saying it’s a “bad flu”. It’s interesting he is now part of a business trying to profit off IP scientific algorithms that normally get published in open access. He also was fired from Rockefeller university which you use a affiliation for.
Just the kind of expert conspiracy-man likes.
 

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You are quoting a dead man on a pandemic he never saw. How is that real science ?

Dr Henderson is a pioneer of John Hopkins school of public health whose been a very strong advocate for lock down since January. His students and his philosophies I am sure are Strong in their way of thought . If he was alive today I would guess he would agree with what 95% if his colleagues are saying. You are quoting him on something he never saw Ans he never had the data on. The whole thing avoid covid is that it is novel. You can’t use someone’s opinions on previous pandemics on it. That is frankly stupid.


Real science is published in scientific journals not YouTube videos. Real science uses data to make conclusions not conclusions to find data. Real science does not work on conspiracy theories. Also what the fuck does bill gates have to do with this. None of the local doctors here in Ontario give a shit about bill gates no one is being payed by him or anything.

If you gonna say crazy shit go ahead. The earth is also flat according to some. But if you want to use science to justify your crazy shit atleast use the scientific method and that does not involve quoting a dead man or using YouTube videos.
don't complain about it when you don't read. and modern science is based on the research of dead people like Einstein, Marie Curie, Tesla, Isaac Newton, Galileo, etc using your logic if a scientist is dead his/her research should be rejected


continue to a be a sheep liiving in fear of a virus (99% recovery rate) because the lying media and govt tells you to
 

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don't complain about it when you don't read. and modern science is based on the research of dead people like Einstein, Marie Curie, Tesla, Isaac Newton, Galileo, etc using your logic if a scientist is dead his/her research should be rejected


continue to a be a sheep liiving in fear of a virus (99% recovery rate) because the lying media and govt tells you to
I know how modem science works. For your own information I also have done modelling and weekly stats on my own... so I have been more involved in this than most. Also I find it ironic you call scientist sheep when they are using data and analysis to form conclusions and the people that just follow alt right media and youtube videos and then go digging to find evidence are not sheep?




This virus is NEW, it has properties that were not expected before. Thats the whole problem with it, the R0 value of this virus combined with its incubation and shedding period make it very unique. Henderson DID Not know that when he wrote that article you are referring to. This is not like a physcis principle where it withstands the test of time. Its a new thing and new science is out there to address it. Are you guys so desperate as to go and use old principles from people that are not alive to defend themselves to use for the current virus? That is very disrespectful and dishonest. Yet when people cite 95% of real science using real data using real scientist in real scientific journals "fake news"... give me a break
 

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Will Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx Serve Time in Prison for Destroying US Economy Based on Ridiculous Imperial College Model Now Proven as Complete Trash?

** Dr. Tony Fauci and Dr. Deborah Birx used the Imperial College Model to persuade President Trump to lock down the ENTIRE US ECONOMY.
** The fraudulent model predicted 2.2 million American deaths from the coronavirus pandemic
** The authors of the Imperial College Model shared their findings with the White House Coronavirus task force in early March
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx then met with President Trump privately and urged him to shut down the US economy and destroy the record Trump economy based on this model
** A new critique of the Imperial College Model finds the study is “completely unusable for scientific purposes” — The Imperial College study is a complete sham
** Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx pushed a garbage model on the White House and the American public and destroyed the US economy

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rial-college-model-now-proven-complete-trash/


https://lockdownsceptics.org/code-review-of-fergusons-model/
 
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