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MadGeek

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I have been in the middle of dozens of these discussions here already and heard all the arguments on both sides.

TERB is not the be all and end all for forming opinions. I am for sensible gun control. Others will accept no compromise.
You're a stupid cunt who doesn't know his asshole from a hole in the ground. And, you're proud of that!. You're content to stay that way too. It's your safe zone. You're content to be a useful idiot of the Liberal party. You wear that as a badge of honor. Don't think; the government knows best. It's too hard to thing for yourself. Admit it? You are happy to be a stupid cunt? Aren't you?

JT is banning 1500 variations of 11 long gun platforms. He's not banning semi-automatic long-guns. He's not banning semi-automatic handguns. He's not focusing on street gun crime. To do that he would actually have to focus poverty, and focus on gun smuggling, of which the reserves make up the lion share of the problem. Please share with me and everyone else the last time some gang banger was caught with a loaded semi-automatic long gun that was at some point purchased legally in Canada. Duh? I dunno is going to be your response isn't it buddy boy?

So, in the end I've now had to sell my, now prohibited semi-automatic long gun, that was never used in crime, back to the government, to now purchase, a non-prohibited, semi-automatic rifle. Because fuck me, I still want to hunt and/or do target shooting. Yep. JT just spent 100's of millions of dollers of your money for some feel good BS!!!
 

cunning linguist

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It's odd that I want to thank Quebec for anything, but when they disobeyed a court order to submit their registry data for destruction, they paved the way for more civil disobedience.

Provinces apparently have the ability to opt out and you can bet that will be utilized here as well.
 

danmand

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It's odd that I want to thank Quebec for anything, but when they disobeyed a court order to submit their registry data for destruction, they paved the way for more civil disobedience.

Provinces apparently have the ability to opt out and you can bet that will be utilized here as well.
Sure, if Ford insists on being voted out. I may hold my nose and vote Liberal.
 

cunning linguist

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Sure, if Ford insists on being voted out. I may hold my nose and vote Liberal.
Right...whatever makes you feel better.

I was referring to provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan, who are already appointing their own CFOs and will undoubtedly seek to opt out of the program.

If it worked for Quebec and Natives, it will work for others. No one will take it lying down this time around.
 

basketcase

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And we don't give a rats ass what you think about our gun laws or what you think they should be .
I think our gun laws are a fairly good compromise but they have changed and will continue to as we continue transitioning from a mainly rural society a significantly urban one.

Bolt action rifles and shotguns still have a purpose in parts of our country but not for most Canadians. Hand guns have absolutely no need for civilian use. Gun enthusiasts in Canada have to accept the fact that for the majority of Canadians, guns are simply a hobby and not some kind of god given right.
 

basketcase

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I see after all this time you are still willfully ignorant of firearms and firearms legislation and have failed to make any effort to do any research.

This ban will do NOTHING for gun crimes.
And where did I say it will? The only comment I've made about criminality is the responsibility lies with our courts to treat illegal guns harshly.


F1 cars were never approved for the streets, the same way an M16 isn't approved for civilian ownership. Not only that, but there were strict limits on the use of many of those rifles, so your argument is invalid.

The largest e petition in Canadian history with over 175,000 signatures opposed the ban of firearms by OIC. As well, most firearms polls showed that the Canadian public did not think additional legislation would reduce gun crimes.

You obviously have internet. Maybe try again and do some research so you don't continue to look ignorant.
You need to get over a couple facts. One is that there is no government conspiracy to make you unable to defend yourself. The other is that in this country, there is no right to own guns and a government is well within its rights to define the parameters of a dangerous hobby.
 

basketcase

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Well it's not . Just look at of the gun shop web sites and they all have plenty of AR platforms for sale . Many guys own more than 1 AR-15 that shoot all kinds of calibers . Same with handguns . Just about every hand gun owner has more than 1 handgun .
Doesn't that argument emphasize that the ownership of guns is a hobby, not a necessity?


You could never drive a F1 car on the street in the first place . Your right to drive which you never had wasn't taken away . Big difference .
Except there has never been

We don't have a NRA so what do we care what they say.
Then what is all this talk about 'rights? As far as I'm aware, Canada has always had some regulations on guns and that will continue no matter what a bunch of well armed hobbyists say.


In a couple of years when those guns are gone we'll see if the gang bangers have stopped the shoot em up in the city of TO . It won't happen because the guns that they use are smuggled into the country . What are you going to say then . Ban all guns now . LOL . That won't stop the shootings on the street . DAA .
As I've said repeatedly, I'm pretty happy with Canada's guns laws but it is up to the courts to truly punish illegal use (of course that requires that there are laws about guns for them to enforce).
 

basketcase

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Really . Since when is a vehicle not a weapon . ....
Still a weapon . Knives are a weapon .
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Gun is not a weapon .

Interesting from someone representing a group that keeps claiming everyone else is ignorant of the laws. Knives are not defined as weapons though they can be used as such.
Technically a vehicle (or knife or baseball bat) can be legally considered a weapon but only if it is being used as one. Difference is there are a lot more legitimate uses for cars than there are for guns. That's why our society (and legal system) puts a lot more restrictions on when we can carry a gun than a car.

p.s. You really thinks cars and knives are weapons but guns aren't?
 

basketcase

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And this ladies and gentleman is why we have the government we have right fucking now! Citizen's content and happy to be ignorant cunts! Don't bother doing any research on anything because quite frankly the government knows best! So go ahead and just shove your fucking head in the sand.
Are you suggesting that we should get rid of elected governments? Not surprising to hear in a discussion of gun 'rights'.
 

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You're a stupid cunt who doesn't know his asshole from a hole in the ground.!
Such eloquence coming from the pro-gun side. Why am I not surprised?

And all I said was that I didn't read 4 pages of arguments that I've read before.
 

MadGeek

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Such eloquence coming from the pro-gun side. Why am I not surprised?

And all I said was that I didn't read 4 pages of arguments that I've read before.
No you didn't. You clearly stated this was a good move on JT's part without actually understanding a fucking thing about it. You're an ignorant cunt and proud of it! Typical of the anti-gun crowd too! $100M of dollers spend to accomplish sweet fuck all other than to pull the wool over your eyes and make you feel good.

Not gonna read all 4 pages.

Good move and ballsy.
 

MadGeek

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Are you suggesting that we should get rid of elected governments? Not surprising to hear in a discussion of gun 'rights'.
LOL. That's your take away from that statement?!? I'm saying we have the current Liberal government of incompetence due to an electorate to fucking lazy too get off their asses and do some actual research on matters and hold an elected government to account. But hey, I guess reading comprehension is hard eh?
 

nottyboi

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You're a stupid cunt who doesn't know his asshole from a hole in the ground. And, you're proud of that!. You're content to stay that way too. It's your safe zone. You're content to be a useful idiot of the Liberal party. You wear that as a badge of honor. Don't think; the government knows best. It's too hard to thing for yourself. Admit it? You are happy to be a stupid cunt? Aren't you?

JT is banning 1500 variations of 11 long gun platforms. He's not banning semi-automatic long-guns. He's not banning semi-automatic handguns. He's not focusing on street gun crime. To do that he would actually have to focus poverty, and focus on gun smuggling, of which the reserves make up the lion share of the problem. Please share with me and everyone else the last time some gang banger was caught with a loaded semi-automatic long gun that was at some point purchased legally in Canada. Duh? I dunno is going to be your response isn't it buddy boy?

So, in the end I've now had to sell my, now prohibited semi-automatic long gun, that was never used in crime, back to the government, to now purchase, a non-prohibited, semi-automatic rifle. Because fuck me, I still want to hunt and/or do target shooting. Yep. JT just spent 100's of millions of dollers of your money for some feel good BS!!!
So perhaps you can tell us. If there are perfectly good hunting rifles that you can use for hunting, what attracted you to an assault type look and design, considering that many hunting rifles can provide greater accuracy and much longer ranges? The fact is, the govt will offer you some $$ but it will be probably less then what you can get selling in the USA so most people will sell that way. You can bet all the gun nuts in the USA are aware of this and will come across the border to buy these guns up.
 

nottyboi

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LOL. That's your take away from that statement?!? I'm saying we have the current Liberal government of incompetence due to an electorate to fucking lazy too get off their asses and do some actual research on matters and hold an elected government to account. But hey, I guess reading comprehension is hard eh?
Gun control is an emotional subject. Logic is not really a good basis. But the ONE logical decision Trudeau DID make, is that people attracted to owning paramilitary styled rifles are not typically people that vote Liberal. So this was electoral politics pure and simple.
 

nottyboi

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No . 30 round magazines ( not clips ) are not available . I can tell you're not a gun owner . The 25 round mags for a Ruger 10/22 rifle are not allowed now because those mags fit a hand gun which is only allowed to have 10 rounds plus 1 .

Never heard of the cops finding an AR-15 that was modified to shoot fully automatic . That's just not done . Bump stocks are illegal in Canada and so are suppressor kits . A box of 30 round mags hidden in a box . You watch too much TV .
I was not talking about any specific gun. the 25 round mag for the ruger is pretty small, and yes if you had that gun its very easy to have several 25 round clips stashe seperately. The AR-15 has 30 round mags and 100 round drums. Yes all these things are illegal. But the point is they can be smuggled in and put on when someone snaps. You cannot buy a bump stop for a Browing BAR Mk 3 for example. And large capacity mags for it are just NOT MANUFACTURED
 

HEYHEY

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Guess this entire thread is a big stink over nothing then.
Problem is that the liberal government came out with a new term "assault STYLE weapons" which has no definition, and they used this term to throw in all sorts if firearms into the mix.
The average person keeps thinking "wtf we need assault weapons" when in reality that's not what any of this is about. Just look at this thread title.

This is a very dishonest way of doing things but trudeau supporters see nothing wrong with this.

I'm all for for firearm laws, but let's do this like adults.
 

HEYHEY

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So perhaps you can tell us. If there are perfectly good hunting rifles that you can use for hunting, what attracted you to an assault type look and design, considering that many hunting rifles can provide greater accuracy and much longer ranges? The fact is, the govt will offer you some $$ but it will be probably less then what you can get selling in the USA so most people will sell that way. You can bet all the gun nuts in the USA are aware of this and will come across the border to buy these guns up.

Can you tell me what an assault style firearm is?

Is it the appearance?

Is it function ?
 

HEYHEY

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For the above comment

Which one of these two is an assault style rifle ?



Or this one ?

 
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