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Like wearing a condom, wearing a mask is just common sense

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"B.C.'s top doctor considers recommending face masks":

https://bc.ctvnews.ca/b-c-s-top-doctor-considers-recommending-face-masks-1.4878725


"B.C. health officer says homemade masks may prevent spread of COVID-19 to others":

"Dr. Bonnie Henry said Wednesday the World Health Organization and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control is moving towards supporting more extensive use of masks by people during the pandemic.

A study by researchers in Singapore estimates that about 10 per cent of new infections may be sparked by people who carry the virus but have not yet suffered its flu-like symptoms. That then prompted American health officials to change how it defined the risk of infection.

...Canadian public health officials, including Henry, have previously said people who are feeling well do not need to wear masks in public.

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-p...asks-may-prevent-spread-of-covid-19-to-others

"Top doctor ‘not against’ widespread mask use...

B.C.’s provincial health officer said Wednesday that she is “not against” the widespread use of non-medical masks as the world grapples with the novel coronavirus pandemic.

...There is growing evidence that people may be able to spread the virus before realizing they have symptoms.

...“[They] may reduce in some cases the touching of your face … we also know they can have some benefit about keeping your droplets in.”

https://globalnews.ca/news/6763036/bc-coronavirus-update-april-1/
 

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Does the N95 itself even give 100% protection from COVID-19 to the mouth & nose areas?

Eye protection would also appear to be important. Might sunglasses or prescription glasses help? OTOH there are medical goggles:

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers...al-Safety-Goggles/zgbs/industrial/11312320011

Also full face hockey shields & motorcycle helmets with full face shields can also protect the eyes. Some other eye protection coverings that might be considered are pictured here:

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=full+fac...refix=full+,industrial,209&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_5
Sealed eyes protection could help, the N95 masks do not protect the eyes and do not offer or claim to offer 100% protection from anything.
 

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The aerosol Corvid-19 can enter the eyes as well, many people do not wear eye protection so N95 (fit tested) alone is probably not enough. If the next Corona virus is as lethal as SARS and as contagious as Corvid-19, then the future of mankind will be very uncertain.
Humankind would survive. Another Black Plague and we'd still have over 3 billion people left. Mother Nature needs to deliver something with a 90% or greater fatality rate. Do it mama!!!
 

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Everyone wear a mask in public.


https://masks4all.org/

Really Like your video!


Please share this video to everyone! Email or twitter it or Facebook it , post it on chat board . Help it go viral in Canada , etc, we need to save lives and our economy..



PS Help flatten the curve! Prevent a global recession or depression saved the economy and saved lives!
Fuck the politics ( left or right). TIme put aside our differences and united to fight the common enemy ( covid-19) ... time to do what right!
This is common sense!
 
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Actually, most epidemiologists, the qualified experts in this field of medicine, were saying to prepare. It was trump who compared it to the flu, even at the beginning of March.

trump failed to heed your proper advice. Listen to the medical experts.

Of course it’s back to Trump and his fault!,

Simple minds.

When and if the “qualified medical experts” say wearing a mask is beneficial, then and only then will I be wearing a mask.
 

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Of course it’s back to Trump and his fault!,
Absolutely and why shouldn't it? He is the leader and the buck stops there.

For a historical perspective on how an actual leader accepts responsibility:

"The buck stops here" is a phrase that was popularized by U.S. President Harry S. Truman, who kept a sign with that phrase on his desk in the Oval Office. The phrase refers to the notion that the President has to make the decisions and accept the ultimate responsibility for those decisions.

Instead that joke of a leader said just 2 weeks ago when asked: "No I don't accept any responsibility at all." He is a leader to only his cult.
 

lenny2

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When and if the “qualified medical experts” say wearing a mask is beneficial, then and only then will I be wearing a mask.
Many already are & have been for some time. Plus it's just common sense.
 

lenny2

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"CDC advises Americans to don facemasks, though Trump says he won’t wear one



"...The new guidance from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention encourages people, especially in areas hit hard by the spread of the coronavirus, to use rudimentary coverings like T-shirts, bandanas and non-medical masks to cover their faces while outdoors.

...Adams, who had repeatedly and publicly advised against the need for face coverings, said Friday that although and he other public health experts initially believed wearing a mask would not have a substantial impact on curbing the spread, the latest evidence makes clear that people who don’t show any symptoms can nonetheless pass on the virus.

“We have told you that from the beginning that we are evolving our recommendations, and new recommendations will come as the evidence dictates,” Adams said.

...First lady Melania Trump embodied the contradictory messaging with a tweet endorsing the new guidance even as her husband chooses to disregard it.


“As the weekend approaches I ask that everyone take social distancing & wearing a mask/face covering seriously,” she tweeted.

...though there remains “scant” evidence that wearing a mask, especially improperly, can protect the wearer, “emerging data suggests facial coverings may prevent asymptomatic disease transmission to others.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...-says-he-wont/
 
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Absolutely and why shouldn't it? He is the leader and the buck stops there.

For a historical perspective on how an actual leader accepts responsibility:

"The buck stops here" is a phrase that was popularized by U.S. President Harry S. Truman, who kept a sign with that phrase on his desk in the Oval Office. The phrase refers to the notion that the President has to make the decisions and accept the ultimate responsibility for those decisions.

Instead that joke of a leader said just 2 weeks ago when asked: "No I don't accept any responsibility at all." He is a leader to only his cult.
WTF does Trump have to do with Canada's medical policies? Focus on your own idiot leader.
 

lenny2

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"Tam offers new advice: wear a non-medical mask when shopping or using public transit

Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer has new advice for Canadians: wear a non-medical face mask to help cut down the spread of the novel coronavirus when they are in situations where they can’t ensure proper physical distance from strangers.

Dr. Theresa Tam said this would help in scenarios such as shopping in the grocery store or riding public transit.

“Canadians can take this additional measure [in] instances where social distancing is difficult to maintain,” she told a noon briefing in Ottawa Monday.

Dr. Tam offered advice on how to make a non-medical mask, saying Canadians could use a cotton shirt for instance, combined with rubber bands.

“We’re talking about things that are readily available in people’s homes,” she said. “Things like cotton shirts, sheets, bandanas.”

“If you can get a cotton material like a T-shirt, you cut it up, you fold it and put elastic bands around it – this is a non-medical facial covering.”

Dr. Tam said this measure is now being advised to help cut down on transmission by Canadians who are infected by the virus but are asymptomatic or presymptomatic.

“Our collective scientific knowledge of COVID-19 continues to grow,” she said.

“It is clear that transmission of the virus is happening more often than previously recognized from infected people right before they develop symptoms,” she said. “This is called presymptomatic transmission.”

She said the same goes for people who never develop symptoms: the asymptomatic.

“A non-medical mask can reduce the chance of your respiratory droplets coming into contact with others or land[ing] on surfaces,” Dr. Tam said.

The announcement Monday represents a new decision from medical experts in Canada. Dr. Tam said the Special Advisory Committee – which includes her and provincial and territorial chief public health officers – made it together.

“With this emerging information, the special advisory committee on COVID-19 has come to a consensus that wearing a non-medical mask, even if you have no symptoms, is an additional measure that you can take to protect others around you in situations where physical distancing is difficult to maintain.”

Public health officials were pressed Monday to explain why they’re only advising these makeshift masks now, a number of weeks after Canada began fighting the pandemic.

Dr. Tam said the evidence about presymptomatic and asymptomatic cases only accumulated in the last 10 days or so.

“These are very recent studies … so we very rapidly try to integrate that latest science,” she told reporters.

“Just before they develop symptoms, [people] have high viral loads,” she said. “And so that tells us the possibility is there they can transmit.”

Dr. Tam said public health officials in Canada still don’t know exactly how important transmission from presymptomatic or asymptomatic cases are driving this epidemic.

The Chief Public Health Officer emphasized this new advice does not confer better protection on the mask user, but is recommended to protect others.

She said this advice is a “permissive statement” offered to help reduce transmission and does not constitute an official recommendation.

The Chief Public Health Officer said as of Monday morning there were 15,822 COVID-19 cases in Canada and 293 deaths.

She said “most concerning” are the new outbreaks in hospitals and long-term care facilities in several provinces.

“As well, we are hearing of young people being hospitalized due to COVID-19 and people as young as in their 20s dying of the disease,” she said.

Dr. Tam urged Canadians not to turn to medical masks for this preventive measure recommended Monday.

More than 339,000 people in Canada have been tested to date with about 5 per cent confirmed as positive, she said Monday.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...ar-a-non-medical-mask-when-shopping-or-using/
 

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Many already are & have been for some time. Plus it's just common sense.
There is some nuance to what they are saying.

The benefit of masks is to stop asymptomatic people from spreading the virus as easily. You wearing a mask does not significantly reduce your chances of you catching it.

They also say the virus doesn't spread in the air, only through droplets so masks are only useful for people who need to be withing 2 m of others. Being able to socially distance, the only place where I would consider wearing one would be shopping for groceries (I don't need to use public transit now) but even then, it is more likely to contract the virus from something touched/breathed on by an infected person rather than inhaling infected droplets. Wearing one would simply reduce the chance that I could spread it if I am a carrier.
 

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Update: As of Tues April 14, 2019

Scientists had to heat virus to almost boiling point to destroy it
I think Mr. Martinson mentioned something about heating masks in the oven on a low-ish temperature to destroy the virus. I can’t remember what temperature that was that he recommended but it seems it might not be enough. French scientists have run experiments to see what temperature is needed to destroy the virus so that it is not longer infective, and found that they almost had to heat it to the boiling point. After a full hour at 60°c, it could still infect and reproduce.


https://www.scmp.com/news/china/sci...survive-long-exposure-high-temperature-threat[/B]
 

lenny2

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There is some nuance to what they are saying.

The benefit of masks is to stop asymptomatic people from spreading the virus as easily. You wearing a mask does not significantly reduce your chances of you catching it.
Wearing a mask will encourage my neighbors to wear one which will protect me (when healthy) significantly from infected neighbors.

Wearing a mask protects my healthy neighbors from me if i'm infected. Without it i may infect my healthy neighbors who could later infect me again after i've recovered. So, indirectly, wearing a mask protects me in the future.

They also say the virus doesn't spread in the air, only through droplets so masks are only useful for people who need to be withing 2 m of others.
So most should wear them when going outside, to the grocery store, pharmacy, on mass transit, etc. Other people outside may not obey the 6 foot rule, so it's good to have a mask on if there are probably going to be any people around when you go outside.
 

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I can't believe we're still arguing about wearing masks
Dr. Tam is a fckn idiot. Cotton is not going to protect you. Cotton can get weat and the spacing between the fabbric of cotton doesn't protect you since the virus can pass through.
The reason why they are not enforcing the usage of mask is to make them available only for health care workers.
 

lenny2

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I can't believe we're still arguing about wearing masks
Dr. Tam is a fckn idiot. Cotton is not going to protect you. Cotton can get weat and the spacing between the fabbric of cotton doesn't protect you since the virus can pass through.
The reason why they are not enforcing the usage of mask is to make them available only for health care workers.
OMG. Face Palm. You are sooooo misinformed. Read the thread & listen to all the videos.

Wearing a mask protects OTHERS from YOU (the possibly infected mask wearer)!

Wear a mask!

Otherwise you are endangering the health & life of those around you, in addition to YOUR OWN.
 

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OMG. Face Palm. You are sooooo misinformed. Read the thread & listen to all the videos.

Wearing a mask protects OTHERS from YOU (the possibly infected mask wearer)!

Wear a mask!

Otherwise you are endangering the health & life of those around you, in addition to YOUR OWN.
I think there is a misunderstanding here. I don't know what you're talking about sorry.
Are you saying only the infected should wear masks?
If they don't know they are infected ( asymptomatic ) Then it's best everyone wears masks.

"the possibly infected mask wearer" this sounds like a new villain on the block.
I'm exhausted of explaining this to people.......Ok look :)
Immagine a mask being the equivalent of a condom ok ?
Now you don't just use a condom to protect the female from yourself right ? You also use it to protect yourself from possible infection.
A mask just like a condom is designed to work both ways. It prevents droplets coming out and droplets coming in.
Otherwise doctors and nurses would put masks on a sick person and not themselves.
Why do you think healthy doctors wear masks when in contact with sick people wearing masks?
Im done with this :)
 
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