Let them die

[hamermill]

President Donald Trump asked his top health adviser last month why officials couldn’t simply let COVID-19 “wash over the country,” infecting people, The Washington Post reported Saturday.

In his haste to jumpstart the economy, Trump posed a frightening scenario to Dr. Anthony Fauci during a task force meeting in the Situation Room. No COVID-19 countermeasures would be taken so that people would quickly become infected, with some recovering to create a protective herd immunity, sources told the newspaper.

“Why don’t we let this wash over the country?” Trump asked, a question others told the Post the president has raised repeatedly in the Oval Office. Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, realized with surprise that Trump was serious, the Post reported.

“Mr. President,” Fauci responded, according to the Post. “Many people would die.”

Trump’s public comments during that time also indicate he was considering such a scenario to get the economy moving again — despite the toll. He said repeatedly that the “cure cannot be worse than the problem itself,” implying that saving lives could be less important than saving the economy. He has claimed without evidence that more people would die from a weak economy than from a pandemic.

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[FONT=&]President Donald Trump asked his top health adviser last month why officials couldn’t simply let COVID-19 “wash over the country,” infecting people, The Washington Post reported Saturday.
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[FONT=&]In his haste to jumpstart the economy, Trump posed a frightening scenario to Dr. Anthony Fauci during a task force meeting in the Situation Room. No COVID-19 countermeasures would be taken so that people would quickly become infected, with some recovering to create a protective herd immunity, sources told the newspaper.
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[FONT=&]“Why don’t we let this wash over the country?” Trump asked, a question others told the Post the president has raised repeatedly in the Oval Office. Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, realized with surprise that Trump was serious, the Post reported.

[/FONT][FONT=&]“Mr. President,” Fauci responded, according to the Post. “Many people would die.”
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[FONT=&]Trump’s public comments during that time also indicate he was considering such a scenario to get the economy moving again — despite the toll. He said repeatedly that the “cure cannot be worse than the problem itself,” implying that saving lives could be less important than saving the economy. He has claimed without evidence that more people would die from a weak economy than from a pandemic.

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I tend to agree.....suicide......people going on a rampage, with nothing to lose...…...Trump had said if we listen to the doctors they would have us in lockdown for 1-2 years …….we are seeing newborns and even the elderly recover from covid-19......a serous virus, forsure….shutting down a country...look at Sweden they are doing ok...………..how about having people live healthier lives......less pollution, better quality food, overpopulation...…….something is up

 

[danmand]

I tend to agree.....suicide......people going on a rampage, with nothing to lose...…...Trump had said if we listen to the doctors they would have us in lockdown for 1-2 years …….we are seeing newborns and even the elderly recover from covid-19......a serous virus, forsure….shutting down a country...look at Sweden they are doing ok...………..how about having people live healthier lives......less pollution, better quality food, overpopulation...…….something is up

Sweden is not doing well. 887 deaths vs 260 in Denmark.

 

[Smallcock]

A very practical and obvious solution. Quarantine those at risk, let society move forward.

Many people agree with it though few politicians will touch it because it's not politically viable to state the obvious (for now).

Rather than getting through Hell quickly, they want to drag out the demise of these people over 1 - 3 years (this is assuming we even get a vaccine), keep everyone full of anxiety living like a mouse, losing livelihoods, turning independent people into dependent on handouts, jeopardizing the futures of the young.

 

[danmand]

There’s a higher population in Sweden than Denmark...11 million vs 5 million...

yep, twice as many people, more than 3 times the deaths.



An Umeå University professor has likened the coronavirus epidemic to the Spanish flu that killed tens of millions in 1918-1920 and blasted Sweden's maverick laissez-faire approach to tackling the coronavirus pandemic with minimum restrictions.

Patients in Sweden with a “biological” age of over 80 years and people between 60 and 80 years of age with multiple illnesses will now be de-prioritised from intensive care in the event of a lack of space, the newspaper Aftonbladet reported.

According to internal documents from the Karolinska University Hospital, one of Sweden's leading medical institutions, “biological age” is defined as “differences in the patient's health, functional level and survival in relation to the average for the patient's chronological age”. However, a doctor who wanted to remain anonymous, called it a “rubber clause”, suggesting that it would be very difficult to assess in practice.

Sweden's deviant approach to handling the coronavirus epidemic, with minimum restrictions in place and public life running almost in a businesses-as-usual mode, has been causing increasing concern, as the infection curve continues to rise.

According to national broadcaster SVT, state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell warned that between 5 and 10 percent of Stockholm residents may be infected. This implies a much steeper infection rate than the roughly 9,000 nationwide cases confirmed so far.

The Uppsala University professor and expert on pandemics Björn Olsen believes that the authorities have failed to quell the crisis and estimates that thousands of Swedes will die.

“The pandemic is coming at us like a flood. It's like a wall of infection. We will have very high death rates in Sweden, especially in the Stockholm area, and we will see a huge increase in the coming weeks,” Olsen told Norwegian broadcaster NRK, suggesting that Sweden is heading towards a tragedy.
According to Olsen, the authorities failed to understand the severity of the situation and take precautions, and took the wrong approach from the start. In the coming two years, nearly eight million Swedes (80 percent of the population) will be infected by the coronavirus, he suggested.

Yngve Gustafson, a professor of geriatrics at Umeå University, is deeply concerned about the development.

“I'm very, very sad. Many people lose; many lives. At the same time, I'm not surprised. We will see infinitely worse numbers in the coming weeks,” Gustafson told Aftonbladet.

COVID-19 Spreading Among Retirement Homes Across Sweden, Elderly Residents 'Terrified'
Gustafson drew parallels with the Spanish flu that shook the world in 1918-1920 and is estimated to have struck 550 million worldwide, and argued that the average life expectancy in Sweden will decline as the coronavirus is spreading through society.
The professor was particularly critical of the triage rules by the health service and predicted many “unnecessary deaths” as often only simple and timely hospital care is needed.

While Sweden's number of infected is comparable with its Nordic neighbours (9,141 in Sweden versus 5,635 in Denmark), the number of fatalities is higher by an order of magnitude (791 in Sweden against 89 in Norway and merely 42 in Finland) has sparked speculations that the country may be much farther ahead on the infection curve.

Worldwide, the number of coronavirus cases has exceeded 1,600,000, including nearly 355,000 recoveries and nearly 96,000 deaths.

The US has the highest case count at 465,000, whereas Italy has the highest death toll at 18,200.

 

[IRIS]

And those saved older citizen, will be the easy target for poor criminals (looks like in the Jungle) who must bring home some food, or anything what worth something for their family. Violent acts against weaks, will be more common in the future. Suicidal rate going to the sky. People couldn't accept to lose everything. Within a few years the death rate will be very high in poor families. Yes we must save lives, but not for any price. For that money what Trump has, he could easily survive anything, so not necessary to fight for the future generation. He does it anyway and now he will be a bad guy? I know our politicans just doesn't care what happen with us in the future. They are rich, could survive for decades, so make laws against their own citizen and make their life miserable is easy for them. It doesn't cause a single sleepless night for them. They dumb with power. Very bad pairing.

 

[jerimander]

Sweden should kick out all those Muslim refugees it recently let in so that available resources can be prioritized for the real Swedes who have contributed to their country all their lives.Use force if necessary.

 

[danmand]

Sweden should kick out all those Muslim refugees it recently let in so that available resources can be prioritized for the real Swedes who have contributed to their country all their lives.Use force if necessary.

And all non indigenous people should be thrown out of Canada, by force if necessary. Good riddence.

I assume you want the same for USA..

 

[jerimander]

There is a long-standing misunderstanding that the indigenous founded Canada. If you will take the trouble to examine the Confederation documents, you will find that not a single indigenous signed it. It was the British and French who founded Canada.

The Muslims in Sweden are basically human termites who are consuming the house that was built by the Swedes. They can easily live in the middle East where there's plenty of space. Kick them out before the house falls down. It's a simple matter of self-preservation.

 

[surferboy]

There is a long-standing misunderstanding that the indigenous founded Canada. If you will take the trouble to examine the Confederation documents, you will find that not a single indigenous signed it. It was the British and French who founded Canada.

The Muslims in Sweden are basically human termites who are consuming the house that was built by the Swedes. They can easily live in the middle East where there's plenty of space. Kick them out before the house falls down. It's a simple matter of self-preservation.

Big problem for Sweden, France & Germany. Relatives back home in Germany not happy...only going to get worse

 

[danmand]

There is a long-standing misunderstanding that the indigenous founded Canada. If you will take the trouble to examine the Confederation documents, you will find that not a single indigenous signed it. It was the British and French who founded canada

That has absolutely nothing to do with it, zero, Nada. The indigenous people are the rightful owners of North America. Everyone who came later should be forcefully removed. TI me to go back to Europe, Asia or where ever their ancestors came from.

 

[Smallcock]

That has absolutely nothing to do with it, zero, Nada. The indigenous people are the rightful owners of North America.

No they're not. Haven't been for a couple hundred years.

You fight wars, you sign treaties, you obtain ownership.

Plenty of their brethren in Mexico should they want to get acquainted.

 

[lenny2]

Open the economy & let people die! Cause i can't stand being cooped up with my GF 24/7! I'm on the verge of insanity! I'm about to put a gun to my head & pull the trigger!

Yes, i'm having sex with her every day while watching whatever the hell i want (shows, sports, etc), & eating & drinking whatever the hell i want & doing whatever the hell i want...while on this perpetual all expenses paid holiday courtesy of Uncle Sam.

But, c'mon, if you knew my GF, you'ld understand!

I need to get back to work...so bad! I sell illicit drugs to kids in school & pimp caged hos on the side.

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[Smallcock]

If this is a vacation, it's going to be a very expensive one for most the longer it lasts. Losing your business, house, credit, livelihood, and future all for a vacation with a girlfriend that you're tired of fucking? Who goes on vacation only to have to stay in their room watching tv anyway?

Watch sports? What sports? They've all had their seasons cancelled.

Eating and drinking whatever you want? With what money? There's no money. And you can't wine and dine at any restaurant even if you have money to spend.

 

[lenny2]

If this is a vacation, it's going to be a very expensive one for most the longer it lasts. Losing your business, house, credit, livelihood, and future all for a vacation with a girlfriend that you're tired of fucking? Who goes on vacation only to have to stay in their room watching tv anyway?

The government can print money forever while the unemployed enjoy an everlasting vacation. Yahoo!

No need to "lose" anything. The government can simply demand people don't lose their "house" just as easily as it already said they can't be evicted for not paying rent.

No need for your business, if it's out of business (non essential) & you're on your endless holiday. Just enjoy yourself!

Farmers fields will continue to grow crops. Grocery stores will continue to have plenty of food. People will buy it.

Then millions of unemployed can perpetually eat, drink & be merry!

Stay at home? Nah, even now millions of people aren't just staying at home. And at home they aren't just "watching TV", but doing any of 100's of things they choose, including sex, watching porn on the internet, etc.

 

[lenny2]

Watch sports? What sports? They've all had their seasons cancelled.

Hint: re plays...e.g. past Superbowls, NHL playoffs, etc, ad infinitum. See youtube, etc.

Eating and drinking whatever you want? With what money? There's no money.

The government can print all the money it wants. Then send out checks via snail mail, etc, or direct deposits into bank accounts. In Canada they already do this with many, e.g. one of them is known as Welfare. Another is called UI.

And you can't wine and dine at any restaurant even if you have money to spend.

Oh, really? Such an insufferable hardship for getting an eternal holiday in exchange? Do you really love your 9-5 M-F "work" that much?

 

[shack]

If this is a vacation, it's going to be a very expensive one for most the longer it lasts. Losing your business, house, credit, livelihood, and future all for a vacation with a girlfriend that you're tired of fucking? Who goes on vacation only to have to stay in their room watching tv anyway?

Watch sports? What sports? They've all had their seasons cancelled.

Eating and drinking whatever you want? With what money? There's no money. And you can't wine and dine at any restaurant even if you have money to spend.

But you can whine, as this post shows.

 

[Smallcock]

You're right. I'll sit back and eat my last bit of dog food today. Thanks to this covid vacation, I can finally live the high life!

 

[Smallcock]

 

[SowelHung]

You're right. I'll sit back and eat my last bit of dog food today. Thanks to this covid vacation, I can finally live the high life!

The supermarket is full of food. If you are eating dog food, that is because you want to eat dog food not because there is lack of food.