Anyone changed their plans due to this? It's not here yet but all indications are that it will be. I've seen some comments on Twitter that people have started backing out of appointment due to worries about the virus. Most sex workers are probably similar to the gig economy in that they have no protection against a sudden collapse in demand. If they don't work, they don't get paid. It makes me wonder about the spas, and whether the MAs would get any backing from the owners/managers. I guess that depends on if MA attendants at Brass or CMJ are actual employees with some level of legal protection or something else (I have no idea).
Impact of COVID-19 coronavirus on sex trade.
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I actually just got back from seeing an SP 1/2 hr ago.
You guys can hide if you want , makes them more available for guys who realize there is more chance of getting an STD than Coronavirus.
There are currently less active cases of COVID-19 (42,146) than there are recovered cases (56.107)
Besides the seasonal flu has kills about 1288 people world wide per DAY and COVID-19 has killed just 3461 this YEAR.
I would be far more afraid of getting the seasonal flu, but then again I practice normal procedures against getting the flu so I am not too worried about that either.
There was a topic a few weeks ago. At the time I thought it was insane to make any changes to your life based on the virus (other than, like, practicing better hand-washing routines, but a conscientious person should be doing that already, plague or no plague).
At the present moment I still don't see a reason to alter behaviour. At least not where we live; someone in Italy or Seattle is a different story.
I've also come to believe that we should expect to need to alter our behaviour in the near future. Most credible experts say the spread of this is inevitable, and when the time comes a responsible person will obey expert instructions on minimizing social contact for the good of the entire population.
I agree that SWs are poised to be in an extremely shitty situation (as are workers in some other sectors). You can't really work from home or take vacation time when you're a companion.
The raw number of flu deaths vs. covid deaths is irrelevant. You need to consider the percentage of people who experience severe consequences.
This virus is also scarier than the flu because you can be a carrier without realizing it for a greater period of time.
Sorry, meant to quote the OP and clicked yours by mistake.
More available SP'S for us.
If we look at this from just Canada, Canadians already face deadly coronaviruses — routinely — with little anxiety or fear.
Influenza A and B are viruses and are actually considered Coronaviruses, just a different strain from COVID-19, SARS and MERS
The flu, short for influenza, causes about 12,200 hospitalizations and 3,500 deaths in Canada each year, according to the Canadian government. Influenza and pneumonia are ranked among the top 10 leading causes of death in Canada. Worldwide, seasonal flu causes an estimated 250,000 to 500,000 deaths annually.
According to data from the Government of Canada, between December 15 and January 4, there were 9,119 reported cases of influenza, between these dates, across Canada, 10 deaths have already been reported as being related to the virus, particularly to the influenza A strain, which is the most common type.
So as you said I will give you these percentages, but I don't quite understand what you mean by severe consequences when i figure death is a pretty severe consequence.
In Canada from the seasonal flu in a 20 day period, 9,119 cases with 10 deaths =.11%
In Canada from COVID-19 in a 66 day period, 51 cases with 0 deaths = .0%
The influenza virus is highly contagious, and anyone who has it can infect people from up to six feet away. However, there are a number of common-sense practices that can help prevent infection.
These include washing your hands or using sanitizer, disinfecting surfaces in your home, and avoiding touching your eyes, nose, and mouth whenever possible.
If you are not in close contact with a person already infected with 2019-nCoV, you aren’t really at risk, health authorities say. While much about the virus and its specific origins are still a mystery, there is nothing yet to suggest it moves about in ways unexpected for a coronavirus. However, if you are around someone who has it, especially when someone doesn’t yet realize they are infected and going about their normal activities, the virus spreads from person to person, likely through coughing, sneezing, touching an infected surface and then your mouth, nose or eyes, or coming into contact with contaminated fecal matter, experts say. That means it is likely just as easily spread as a cold or flu, and how often do we catch one of those?
You're throwing in weird qualifiers like "in Canada" to present misleading conclusions.
It is really simple: a higher percentage of people who contract this coronavirus die than the percentage who die after they contract the flu.
That doesn't mean that the flu isn't deadly, and it doesn't mean that this coronavirus is instant, grievous death for anyone within 12 blocks of a carrier. It just means that this is a more dangerous virus than the already dangerous ones we are acclimatized to living with.
I am saying in Canada because we are in Canada and i am representing the facts of these viruses in Canada and the effects it has had on people in Canada. If these are misleading conclusions for the populous of Canada, then the data the Canadian government and health organizations are releasing is flawed.
If you would like to see an SP in Wuhan province go ahead, but I believe the OP was referring to sex workers in the Ottawa area where, last I had read, there were 0 cases of COVID-19.
Well, I like DFK but I do not usually kiss people sitting next to me on the bus... "All safe" SP experience is, probably, pretty safe, but a simple safe sex is not what I enjoy the most, so, I am currently out. My guess, Brass/CMJ would suffer the major hit since, all of sudden, the experience that they offer becomes the most risky one.
The virus isn't going to magically stop at our borders, though. If, as epidemiologists are predicting, the spread continues with some level of inevitability, and the virus becomes ubiquitous in most locations, we'll need to adjust our social behaviour accordingly during the period of attempted containment. Like I said, right now there's no reason for us to do so; a month from now that might not be true. And I'm sure if we do experience a more serious contagion some of our advantages, like lower nationwide population density and public healthcare, might help our chances of effectively containing it.
Keep in mind that I took issue with you drawing equivalence between this and the flu, not with your assessment that at the present moment we have no cause for drastic behavioural changes.
I hate the projected timeline on this, btw, because I just planned a big date with one of my favourite SPs for the end of April.
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If the problem becomes more prevalent here I will use a fuckin body condom and still get laid! Wrap me in Saran wrap or something .....
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Is it just me or does anyone else have the song "My Sharona" start playing in their head when thinking of the virus?
Lot's of good info here .... and I agree that in about a month or two we'll see where this is at and be either laughing or crying.
One thing I heard from a couple doctors that is interesting. Do NOT cough into your elbow as the virus can live for about a week in your clothes. Better to use a tissue, throw it away and wash your hands if possible. If you are in a pinch use the elbow and be sure to wash the clothing asap. I find it ironic that there are signs all over where I work telling you to use the elbow.
I also read where a team in Texas had a vaccine for Coronavirus ready to test in 2006 (I think, could be off on the year) but the clinical trials were not funded. A shame but as article pointed out at that time there was no pandemic getting everyone all excited. Hindsight .....still, that vaccine was on ice and is now able to be tested so hopefully can be rolled out sooner rather than later.
Also if you have Sirius/XM radio they have a channel dedicated to Coronavirus info, it is channel 121. It is active on ALL radios, subscribed or not. I went to turn it on but it was 5:48 pm and it did not become active until 6pm last night. It has updates from time to time but is mostly info from the Doctor channel regarding Coronavirus discussion. I just turned it on and they are talking about the realities concerning making a vaccine. Interesting but I don't think it will replace Classic Vinyl or the sports stations just yet. Still, a resource to keep in mind.
Lot's of good info here .... and I agree that in about a month or two we'll see where this is at and be either laughing or crying.
One thing I heard from a couple doctors that is interesting. Do NOT cough into your elbow as the virus can live for about a week in your clothes. Better to use a tissue, throw it away and wash your hands if possible. If you are in a pinch use the elbow and be sure to wash the clothing asap. I find it ironic that there are signs all over where I work telling you to use the elbow.
I also read where a team in Texas had a vaccine for Coronavirus ready to test in 2006 (I think, could be off on the year) but the clinical trials were not funded. A shame but as article pointed out at that time there was no pandemic getting everyone all excited. Hindsight .....still, that vaccine was on ice and is now able to be tested so hopefully can be rolled out sooner rather than later.
Also if you have Sirius/XM radio they have a channel dedicated to Coronavirus info, it is channel 121. It is active on ALL radios, subscribed or not. I went to turn it on but it was 5:48 pm and it did not become active until 6pm last night. It has updates from time to time but is mostly info from the Doctor channel regarding Coronavirus discussion. I just turned it on and they are talking about the realities concerning making a vaccine. Interesting but I don't think it will replace Classic Vinyl or the sports stations just yet. Still, a resource to keep in mind.
lmao, it kind of sounds like your doctor is just flexing and wanting to show off a piece of medical trivia.
I still notice people coughing directly into their HANDS on a daily basis, so I'd be totally thrilled with them trading their contaminated hands for contaminated sleeves. Small victories ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ottawa is still fairly safe at the moment but it's good to start planning precautions.
Lower volume providers would also lower the risk slightly. Do they host in a crowded area/neighborhood? Location nice and well kept? Not absolute but cleanliness does give a slight picture of a person's hygiene.
Also minimize the amount of cash transactions on the daily. Cash gets passed around a lot and is one of the easier way for indirect spreading of viruses and germs in general.
Lower volume providers would also lower the risk slightly. Do they host in a crowded area/neighborhood? Location nice and well kept? Not absolute but cleanliness does give a slight picture of a person's hygiene.
Also minimize the amount of cash transactions on the daily. Cash gets passed around a lot and is one of the easier way for indirect spreading of viruses and germs in general.
"Also minimize the amount of cash transactions on the daily. Cash gets passed around a lot and is one of the easier way for indirect spreading of viruses and germs in general."[/QUOTE]
Always with humour....guyz...PLEASE let me perform a life-saving function for you....send me your cash. I promise I'll 'launder' it and put it to good use...supporting ladies in the local industry in a most healthy manner. Retirement is my public service.
Always with humour....guyz...PLEASE let me perform a life-saving function for you....send me your cash. I promise I'll 'launder' it and put it to good use...supporting ladies in the local industry in a most healthy manner. Retirement is my public service.
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