Crazy Toronto Truck Drivers

[rhuarc29]

I think trucks should not be on he roads
They are the worst causes of traffic jams, damage to roads, deaths on roads

I'd like to know your solution for transporting goods from major terminals to the companies that need them.

 

[|2 /-\ | /|/]

I'd like to know your solution for transporting goods from major terminals to the companies that need them.

Self driving trucks will help with these things especially with deliveries such as amazon and groceries at the cost of many lost jobs. Question now is the when. Tesla is working on their semi and are right around the corner with the full self driving capability. Maybe have dedicated self driving lanes for off peak hours.

 

[GameBoy27]

I disagree. I think he knew something was wrong, either from the feel/sound or from other drivers flagging him down, but that he didn't realize he was towing a car. Hence why he bashed the car into the wall.

While the car may have cut off the truck, which likely turned it sideways in front, I don't believe he didn't know he was pushing a car in front of him as he drove onto the shoulder putting the car into the wall. The truck made a lane change half way onto the shoulder. Explain that.

If that video was taken from a dash cam, why didn't they show what happened in the 10 seconds leading up to the event. That would've explained a lot.

Self driving trucks will help with these things especially with deliveries such as amazon and groceries at the cost of many lost jobs. Question now is the when. Tesla is working on their semi and are right around the corner with the full self driving capability. Maybe have dedicated self driving lanes for off peak hours.

While Tesla is working on it, it's so far from becoming a reality on Ontario roads any time soon. Just around the corner? No...

 

[Varmitt]

I think trucks should not be on he roads
They are the worst causes of traffic jams, damage to roads, deaths on roads

Remember....if you got it a truck brought it

 

[roadhog]

While the car may have cut off the truck, which likely turned it sideways in front, I don't believe he didn't know he was pushing a car in front of him as he drove onto the shoulder putting the car into the wall. The truck made a lane change half way onto the shoulder. Explain that.

If that video was taken from a dash cam, why didn't they show what happened in the 10 seconds leading up to the event. That would've explained a lot.

Exactly what I was going to say, had the same thing happen to me a few years ago. The longer version of the video shows the truck on the shoulder and the driver running back to check on the other driver. I think a few facts have been left out of the story......

 

[roadhog]

Remember....if you got it a truck brought it

Yessirrrr.

 

[lomotil]

Not true - it depends on where your car is, in relation to the bus when the driver indicates their lane change.

Timbit

Good luck getting a decision against the TTC driver unless you have strong dashboard evidence.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I've seen this happen before. Truck driver's view can sometimes be impeeded because of the angle.
The truck driver in OP's link MIGHT be telling the truth, or he might be full of shit.
My gut feeling is he's telling the truth.

AFAIK cops have so far not charged the driver (yet)

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

A good lawyer should be able to get the driver acquitted

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

 

[rhuarc29]

While the car may have cut off the truck, which likely turned it sideways in front, I don't believe he didn't know he was pushing a car in front of him as he drove onto the shoulder putting the car into the wall. The truck made a lane change half way onto the shoulder. Explain that.

I'm not sure what you're referencing with "made a lane change half way onto the shoulder". Like I said, he knew something was wrong, either from the feel/sound or from other drivers flagging him down, so he tried to get to the safety of the shoulder, as anyone would when they realized there was some unknown issue with their vehicle.

 

[GameBoy27]

I'm not sure what you're referencing with "made a lane change half way onto the shoulder". Like I said, he knew something was wrong, either from the feel/sound or from other drivers flagging him down, so he tried to get to the safety of the shoulder, as anyone would when they realized there was some unknown issue with their vehicle.

Thanks for pointing that out. I left out a couple words. I intended to say "The truck made a lane change and continued half way onto the shoulder." From my understanding, the truck driver didn't stop but the Police tracked him down after the fact. That's why he used the excuse that he was unaware he has struck another vehicle. I'm calling BS.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Thanks for pointing that out. I left out a couple words. I intended to say "The truck made a lane change and continued half way onto the shoulder." From my understanding, the truck driver didn't stop but the Police tracked him down after the fact. That's why he used the excuse that he was unaware he has struck another vehicle. I'm calling BS

And this is a classic case where you and almost everyone else in this thread is wrong.

Truck driver knows he hit something, but he cant see the car because its blocked from his view.
He probably thought he hit a pylon or some other road debris.
What he does is correct, he pulls over (without realizing he's dragging the car with him).
He parks his truck, gets out, and its not until then that he finally realizes he hit a car.

Watch the full video:

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Driver was not charged. He is oh so lucky someone had a dashcam

https://twitter.com/OPP_HSD/status/1217415011569717248

Sgt Kerry Schmidt@OPP_HSD Jan 15

Drivers have been identified in this collision from January 13, 2020.
No injuries to either driver, the truck driver claims he was unaware of the car.....charges have not been laid as the investigation is ongoing.
Updates to follow

 

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What are you talking about??? It’s clear from this video that the driver pulled over and ran outside his truck to give the driver a further beat down because he didn’t think he had enough. Maybe the savage truck driver saw the guy was still moving?! Look at 0:38, he has his fists closed and ready to pounce on the poor guy!
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Obviously J/K to prove your point. I agree this video puts it it perspective and now you question what really is go down. Maybe the problem is regular drivers cutting truck drivers off and causing an offence . Two outcomes either the truck driver overreacted and realized he could have hurt the driver or he is actually telling the truth.

Keep in mind the OPP started this thread by posting the cut video and key triggers and pointing the finger in the original Tweet:

Looking for information on this video��
These drivers have some explaining to do.
Call Toronto OPP if you have info - 416-235-4981

He quoted a tweet that said “ The car got dropped to the shoulder... dont cut off trucks “ which softly implied the truck driver did it on purpose.

Looks like this started with the OPPs original tweet and cutting the video and majority of us jumped to conclusions and started pointing fingers. Twitter allows 2:20secs of video time. Twitter is becoming a powerful tool. For someone like OPP he should have better political acuity to post that tweet with such potential for triggers at the expense of the poor truck drivers.

 

[GameBoy27]

And this is a classic case where you and almost everyone else in this thread is wrong.

Truck driver knows he hit something, but he cant see the car because its blocked from his view.
He probably thought he hit a pylon or some other road debris.
What he does is correct, he pulls over (without realizing he's dragging the car with him).
He parks his truck, gets out, and its not until then that he finally realizes he hit a car.

Watch the full video:

I said "from my understanding" the driver didn't stop. That video wasn't available at the time and Police said they were still looking to speak to the drivers. From that video he obviously did stop.

I still don't buy the "he hit a pylon or debris excuse. He pushed a 3,000 lb. off the road, onto the shoulder then into a wall. The driver of the Civic said was leaning on the horn the whole time. There was also a passenger in the truck.

Still not buying the "I didn't see the car" excuse. Neither do truck drivers I heard who've seen the video.

I'd still like to see more of the video leading up to the collision.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I said "from my understanding" the driver didn't stop. That video wasn't available at the time and Police said they were still looking to speak to the drivers. From that video he obviously did stop.

I still don't buy the "he hit a pylon or debris excuse. He pushed a 3,000 lb. off the road, onto the shoulder then into a wall. The driver of the Civic said was leaning on the horn the whole time. There was also a passenger in the truck.

Still not buying the "I didn't see the car" excuse. Neither do truck drivers I heard who've seen the video.

I'd still like to see more of the video leading up to the collision

Then why did the cops not charge him??

BTW did you watch the videos in post #28, #29, #30 and #31??

 

[newfie]

I’m a truck driver and there’s no way he wouldn’t have known he was pushing a car down the highway.

 

[GameBoy27]

Then why did the cops not charge him??

I haven't found anything saying the investigation is closed and no charges will be laid against either driver. "Drivers have been identified in this collision from January 13, 2020. No injuries to either driver, the truck driver claims he was unaware of the car.....charges have not been laid as the investigation is ongoing. Updates to follow."

BTW did you watch the videos in post #28, #29, #30 and #31??

I did. All they show is trucks pushing cars down the highway. We have no idea if the drivers also claim to have been unaware of the cars pinned to their bumpers, or if charges were laid.

One of two things happened in the incident on the 401. Either the car attempted to change lanes and ended up sideways in front of the truck, or the truck attempted to change lanes and the car ended up sideways in front of the truck. I'm more inclined to think it was the truck changing lanes, since he had his indicator on. Until we see more video leading up to the collision, it's hard to determine exactly what happened.

Regardless, if the truck changed lanes and made contact with the car, it's at minimum unsafe lane change that will get you 2 or 3 points on your license. He could also be charged with careless. Same goes for the driver of the car. Just because the guy tells Police "I didn't see him" doesn't mean he's off the hook.

I’m a truck driver and there’s no way he wouldn’t have known he was pushing a car down the highway.

I tend to agree with you.