There Will Be a One-State Solution

[basketcase]

Your poll also says that 56% say that the two state solution is no longer viable.....

If you knew any math, 66% is higher than 56.

The two state solution would have been the best solution,

Yet the party you routinely support bases its existence on removing the Jewish presence and turning the region into an Islamic Caliphate. Hmm.


Also, why do you never address the 100 years and counting refusal of any Palestinian faction to accept a Two State peace. hamas still refuses to even be part of any negotiations yet all you do is find excuses to blame Israel.

 

[basketcase]

Really? If the....

...ridiculous clowns actually read history or even acknowledged reality....

Sorry but at the start of the conflict, Jews who lived on land they legally owned were attacked by their Arab neighbours, the main victims of the first wave of attacks were the Jewish communities in Hebron and Jerusalem who had been there continuously since antiquity. Also worth noting is that Israel is 20% Arabs. They are the descendants of those who chose peace and stayed instead of fleeing out of fear or being directly engaged in attacks on Jews.

 

[basketcase]

Sorry but this misleading graphic has been discussed repeatedly.

Under the Ottomans and the British, the vast majority of the land was state owned, not owned by Arabs or Jews. In fact it still is.

You could create a better graphic comparing the consecutive offers or plans that the Arab/Palestinian community refused and how they've made out with their choice of war over compromise.

 

[basketcase]

You're right, there's been about 200,000 more settlers moved into the West Bank since then,...

And if the Palestinian leadership wanted peace they would be moved out or have an equal amount of land swapped for it.

Olmert's offer was a completely contiguous West Bank and a corridor to Gaza. The border would have been irregular but nothing compared to the Belgium/Dutch border or India/Bangladesh.

 

[basketcase]

If you were trapped in that shithole with no future you'd be firing rockets.

I'd be pissed off at the government who wasted their money on violence and caused my borders to be restricted instead of accepting a racist scapegoat.

And nice to see how consistent you are in endorsing violence as a solution. Oh wait, you said all Syrian rebels are terrorists.

 

[Liminal]

I'd be pissed off at the government who wasted their money on violence and caused my borders to be restricted instead of accepting a racist scapegoat.

And nice to see how consistent you are in endorsing violence as a solution. Oh wait, you said all Syrian rebels are terrorists.

Wow. 7 sequential posts in 15 minutes. All angry. All chaotic. Always blaming. They all demonstrate the kind of understanding that reflecting for no more than a minute or two between each post could possibly produce.

How long have you been manic?

 

[nottyboi]

Yeah, that's the reason.

It is, you cannot even imagine what you would do if that was you stuck there in Gaza with no future and trapped like a rat.

 

[nottyboi]

I'd be pissed off at the government who wasted their money on violence and caused my borders to be restricted instead of accepting a racist scapegoat.

And nice to see how consistent you are in endorsing violence as a solution. Oh wait, you said all Syrian rebels are terrorists.

Syrian rebels were not trapped like rats, they had the option of fleeing. Which many did when the going got tough. That is not an option for the palis in Gaza. I am not saying what they do is right or wrong, its a fact. Terrorism is just a word, typically leveled at those trying to change the status quo via force of arms. In the absence of political or legal recourse.. you get violence. Look at the powder keg in the USA now and look at how angry Alberta is..and they are not even remotely close to starving...

 

[Frankfooter]

It's called defending your border.

What border?
Define where that border is on a map and then explain why Israel keeps putting 'settlers' inside that 'border'?

 

[Frankfooter]

Syrian rebels were not trapped like rats, they had the option of fleeing. Which many did when the going got tough. That is not an option for the palis in Gaza. I am not saying what they do is right or wrong, its a fact. Terrorism is just a word, typically leveled at those trying to change the status quo via force of arms. In the absence of political or legal recourse.. you get violence. Look at the powder keg in the USA now and look at how angry Alberta is..and they are not even remotely close to starving...

Palestinians fled from terrorism in '48 and Israel wouldn't let them back in.
Result is that there are 5 million Palestinian refugees waiting for their Right of Return to be honoured and no other Palestinian would risk fleeing their homes and becoming eternal stateless refugees outside their borders.
Instead they live as stateless refugees under Israeli apartheid rule.

 

[basketcase]

What border?
Define where that border is on a map and then explain why Israel keeps putting 'settlers' inside that 'border'?

The '67 line that divides Israel from Gaza? But sure, talk about those secret settlers Israel has in Gaza.

 

[basketcase]

Syrian rebels were not trapped like rats...

I guess when the Syrians had encircled Rebel areas, dropping barrel bombs randomly, and Russian planes were repeatedly bombing hospitals, it was really because a hundred thousand civilians wanted to stay there.

You are such a hypocrite.

 

[basketcase]

Palestinians fled from terrorism in '48 and Israel wouldn't let them back in.
Result is that there are 5 million Palestinian refugees waiting for their Right of Return to be honoured and no other Palestinian would risk fleeing their homes and becoming eternal stateless refugees outside their borders.
Instead they live as stateless refugees under Israeli apartheid rule.

And just like Notty, you want to completely avoid REAL human rights violations just to fit your agenda.

At least you finally admit that most Palestinians chose to flee and weren't forced out. Hopefully you will one day acknowledge the widespread Arab terrorism against Jews that came before Jewish terrorists joined in.

 

[Frankfooter]

The '67 line that divides Israel from Gaza? But sure, talk about those secret settlers Israel has in Gaza.

And all the settlements that are beyond that line are in Palestine?

 

[Frankfooter]

At least you finally admit that most Palestinians chose to flee and weren't forced out.

Sure, they chose not to die at the hand of Jewish terrorists so fled in fear of their lives.
That's the kind of free choice you approve of?

 

[basketcase]

Wow. 7 sequential posts in 15 minutes. All angry. All chaotic. Always blaming. They all demonstrate the kind of understanding that reflecting for no more than a minute or two between each post could possibly produce.

How long have you been manic?

Unlike you and franky, I'm not logging in here 12 times a day.

And still waiting for you to pretend you have the ability to attempt a logical argument.

 

[basketcase]

And all the settlements that are beyond that line are in Palestine?

WTF are you talking about? What settlements are in Gaza?

Oh wait, you got exposed as a fraud once again and want to change the topic.

 

[basketcase]

Sure, they chose not to die at the hand of Jewish terrorists so fled in fear of their lives.
That's the kind of free choice you approve of?

Yes, the Arab leaders spread that fear to convince Arab people to fight a conflict they had little interest in. And I see you don't want to discuss the Arab terrorism that both predated and was in greater quantities that Jewish terrorism. Hell, you refuse to even use the term 'terrorism' to describe Arab attacks on Jewish civilians.

 

[Frankfooter]

WTF are you talking about? What settlements are in Gaza?

Oh wait, you got exposed as a fraud once again and want to change the topic.

Nice attempt to change the topic from the 1967 borders to Gaza.
You said the '67 line should be Israel's border but refuse to admit that means that all those settlements are in what you call Palestine in the West Bank.

 

[Frankfooter]

Yes, the Arab leaders spread that fear to convince Arab people to fight a conflict they had little interest in.

I see, so you think the problem wasn't that Jewish terrorists were killing Palestinians but instead that Palestinians (who you have to call 'Arabs') who warned other Palestinians about Jewish terrorism are to blame?
That's pretty disgusting, basketcase.