There Will Be a One-State Solution

[basketcase]

Then perhaps you should provide some.

I know how hard it is to search the internet so here you go.

From the most recent
Q48-3) Abandon the two state solution and demand the establishment of
one state for Palestinians and Israelis
1) certainly support 7.1%
2) support 24.1%
3) oppose 45.7%
4) certainly oppose 19.2%
http://pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll 72 English full text July 2019.pdf

The same poll has support for a Two State peace at 47%.

Fell free to search through their 20 years of polling if you like.
https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/154

There are some great gems from June's polling like:
42% support "armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel"
38% think "armed action" is the best way to achieve their goals.

 

[Liminal]

Don't want the horn, don't bait the bull.

Another message brought to you by a proud member of Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood. Never recognize the suffering of others. Doing that takes the spotlight off of you. Mock them. Gloat. Never recognize the humanity of others, lest others recognize their suffering.

 

[basketcase]

Another message brought to you by a proud member of Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood. Never recognize the suffering of others. Doing that takes the spotlight off of you. Mock them. Gloat. Never recognize the humanity of others, lest others recognize their suffering.

I would be amazed if one day you actually contributed some ideas to a discussion instead of just throwing pout some line you once heard and thought was cool.

 

[nottyboi]

Secular state, eh? You have a pill that will make the Muslims forsake Muhammad or the Jews the Torah? Maybe a shot of some kind that will prevent individuals from donning the explosive vests? Stylish but lethal. Btw, if the Palis in Gaza cared about their material well being, they would have done something about it a long time ago. They might have a future in the space program, though.

At the end of the day its all about money. People use religion and nationalism to stir up the masses, but people that are materially secure are less willing to engage in wars where they can lose it all

 

[jcpro]

Another message brought to you by a proud member of Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood. Never recognize the suffering of others. Doing that takes the spotlight off of you. Mock them. Gloat. Never recognize the humanity of others, lest others recognize their suffering.

They have you to "recognize" it, don't they? On a hooker review board. My hero, LOL!!!

 

[nottyboi]

I know how hard it is to search the internet so here you go.

From the most recent
Q48-3) Abandon the two state solution and demand the establishment of
one state for Palestinians and Israelis
1) certainly support 7.1%
2) support 24.1%
3) oppose 45.7%
4) certainly oppose 19.2%
http://pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll 72 English full text July 2019.pdf

The same poll has support for a Two State peace at 47%.

Fell free to search through their 20 years of polling if you like.
https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/154

There are some great gems from June's polling like:
42% support "armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel"
38% think "armed action" is the best way to achieve their goals.

Why do you call those gems? The entire state of Israel is based on using armed action to achieve their goals.

 

[jcpro]

At the end of the day its all about money. People use religion and nationalism to stir up the masses, but people that are materially secure are less willing to engage in wars where they can lose it all

It's not about the money, although it is important. It's about survival and ownership. Had it been about survival, Gaza, with all the international aid, would be a new Beirut by now.

 

[Frankfooter]

Don't want the horn, don't bait the bull.

At least you admit that Israel are the oppressors, but now you're saying that Palestinians deserve to die if they protest the occupation and apartheid rule?

 

[Frankfooter]

As usual you make excuses to war crimes and indiscriminate attacks on civilians but complain that people at a violent protest were hurt. Hmm.

Over that last year and a bit Israel has killed over 200 civilian protesters and injured 14,000 more.
Those are the real war crimes and indiscriminate attacks on civilians that you continue to support.
You are the one supporting attacks on civilians here.

 

[Frankfooter]

A military occupation without a single member of the military occupying it? .

What do you call the walls with snipers who shoot anyone who gets within 100 metres?
Civilian border police?

Gaza is under military occupation by Israel, just because they rule it like the Warsaw Ghetto was ruled doesn't make it any less of an occupation.

 

[jcpro]

At least you admit that Israel are the oppressors, but now you're saying that Palestinians deserve to die if they protest the occupation and apartheid rule?

Yawn. If you think that the indiscriminate rocket fire into civilian areas is a "protest" then what else is there to say?

 

[Frankfooter]

I know how hard it is to search the internet so here you go.

From the most recent
Q48-3) Abandon the two state solution and demand the establishment of
one state for Palestinians and Israelis
1) certainly support 7.1%
2) support 24.1%
3) oppose 45.7%
4) certainly oppose 19.2%
http://pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll 72 English full text July 2019.pdf

The same poll has support for a Two State peace at 47%.

Fell free to search through their 20 years of polling if you like.
https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/154

There are some great gems from June's polling like:
42% support "armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel"
38% think "armed action" is the best way to achieve their goals.

Your poll also says that 56% say that the two state solution is no longer viable.

The two state solution would have been the best solution, but the governments and actions you have supported have killed that possibility through the ongoing colonization of Palestine through settlements.
Its no longer viable.
Since there is no Palestinian state, the one state apartheid solution is already here.
Its up to you and Israel to figure out how to fix it.

 

[K Douglas]

Yet they are slowly implementing it, read the article, it’s not dogmatic or biased.

I read the article. The reason for the settlements is a strategic one. The Jews want to use it in bargaining negotiations. Plus they want some higher altitude land for defense purposes. And that exists in the West Bank.

The Jewish people are wise and actually have vision years down the road. They know the demographics are against them which is why they are encouraging (with $$) Jews living outside of Israel, particularly Orthodox Jews, to return and settle along the West Bank border.

 

[K Douglas]

Another message from a proud member of Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood.

If anyone is claiming perpetual victimhood its the Palestinians. Longest serving refugees in the history of the world.

 

[Frankfooter]

I read the article. The reason for the settlements is a strategic one. The Jews want to use it in bargaining negotiations. Plus they want some higher altitude land for defense purposes. .

Right, so they want more of Palestine and are taking it by force and are upset that Palestinians don't like it.
Like I said, Israel has killed the two state solution through taking more of Palestine for whatever justification you think they use, like 'defensive purposes'.

If anyone is claiming perpetual victimhood its the Palestinians. Longest serving refugees in the history of the world.

No wonder, with people like you stating that its totally fine for Israel to keep taking their land by force.
You really have done wonders to justify them being continual victims of Israeli oppression and violence.

 

[Liminal]

Yawn. If you think that the indiscriminate rocket fire into civilian areas is a "protest" then what else is there to say?

This message brought to you by a proud member of Our Lady of Perpetual Victimhood. Never acknowledge the suffering of others. That makes them human. Always redirect it yourself.

 

[K Douglas]

Right, so they want more of Palestine and are taking it by force and are upset that Palestinians don't like it.
Like I said, Israel has killed the two state solution through taking more of Palestine for whatever justification you think they use, like 'defensive purposes'.



No wonder, with people like you stating that its totally fine for Israel to keep taking their land by force.
You really have done wonders to justify them being continual victims of Israeli oppression and violence.

There's no such thing as Palestine. Their leadership walked away from the best deal they were going to get back in 2000. They hate Jews more than they love themselves.

 

[Liminal]

A crime

Really? If the Zionists came along and chased, you, your family and just about everyone sharing your religion out of your homes where you live in the US and left you homeless you wouldn’t fight back by any means possible?

Thank god the US had citizens with more backbone against the British than you.

 

[K Douglas]

Really? If the Zionists came along and chased, you, your family and just about everyone sharing your religion out of your homes where you live in the US and left you homeless you wouldn’t fight back by any means possible?

Thank god the US had citizens with more backbone against the British than you.

Straw man argument if I've ever seen one.

 

[Frankfooter]

There's no such thing as Palestine.

Just apartheid Israel.

Apartheid being one down the list of evil crimes against humanity from genocide.