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Only Three Months Left For Planet Earth( and other false doomsday predictions)

Frankfooter

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What is wrong with you
Here is the statement

And you question if this is correct
I said its cherry picking, do you not know what cherry picking is?

Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias.[1][2]

I proved it was cherry picking by picking numbers from your supplied chart, with similar dates from different years that showed the exact opposite of what you claimed:
2012.21 Temp Anomaly -0.91
2019.21 Temp Anomaly -0.31
Difference = 0.6ºC warmer

vs your cherry picked dates:
2016.21 Temp Anomaly = 1.36C
2018.21 Temp Anomaly = 0.89 C
Difference = - 0.47 C
That proves your source used cherry picked numbers to fool people like you.
The sad part is how easy it is to fool you and your refusal to admit you were suckered.

This gif really represents this debate, where your 'source', Lindzen, tries to show a decline through cherry picking dates where there is an obvious warming trend long term.
Total bullshit argument that you fell for.

 

canada-man

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the latest doomsday scaremongering from the climate alarmists

U.S. Military Could Collapse Within 20 Years Due to Climate Change, Report Commissioned By Pentagon Says
The report says a combination of global starvation, war, disease, drought, and a fragile power grid could have cascading, devastating effects.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...e-change-report-commissioned-by-pentagon-says


This is good news, because in 2004 they said the world would end in 2020.





And the new date is 65 years after the CIA said global cooling was going to kill us.

 

Ginomore

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I said its cherry picking, do you not know what cherry picking is?

Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. It is a kind of fallacy of selective attention, the most common example of which is the confirmation bias.[1][2]

I proved it was cherry picking by picking numbers from your supplied chart, with similar dates from different years that showed the exact opposite of what you claimed:
2012.21 Temp Anomaly -0.91
2019.21 Temp Anomaly -0.31
Difference = 0.6ºC warmer

vs your cherry picked dates:


That proves your source used cherry picked numbers to fool people like you.
The sad part is how easy it is to fool you and your refusal to admit you were suckered.

This gif really represents this debate, where your 'source', Lindzen, tries to show a decline through cherry picking dates where there is an obvious warming trend long term.
Total bullshit argument that you fell for.


You talk about cherry picking dates but your graph conveniently starts in the early 70s.
That was the coldest period of the past 120 years.
Anything after the early 1970s will show warming but nice try though.
 

Frankfooter

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You talk about cherry picking dates but your graph conveniently starts in the early 70s.
That was the coldest period of the past 120 years.
Anything after the early 1970s will show warming but nice try though.
That gif is picked as a demonstration of cherry picking, it was to show Mr Science, johnnylarue, a graphic representation of his attempt to cherry pick dates to claim temps weren't rising.
For your pleasure I'll post a chart from Gavin Schmidt, head off NASA's GISS program, that shows longer term global temperatures with modelled projections based on CO2 output.
And finally, I'll add a bonus chart showing CO2 increases plotted against global temp increases.
Enjoy.







The last chart comes from an excellent post on Exxon and denial from Realclimate.com
http://www.realclimate.org/index.ph...e-facts-exxon-and-the-favorite-denial-tricks/
 

canada-man

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We are coming up on the 200th anniversary of New York’s most powerful hurricane, which would have destroyed Lower Manhattan – except that it came in at low tide.



 

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The vancouver airport is currently undergoing a 20 year expansion costing over 9 billion $


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/yvr-breaks-ground-expansion-projects-1.4707435


a climate alarmists claims that rising sea levels will affect the vancouver and lower mainland area. if sea levels are rising why are people spending 9 billion dollars to expand the airport which will be flooded in 30 years by rising sea levels caused by climate change?

https://globalnews.ca/news/6102304/...yX4CXkDweXRmCyKCZjh1BeQmqySLnALqDow09m1zxX200
 

Frankfooter

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Shouldn't many of these homes be worthless based on the Climate Models?
You going to put your money where your mouth is and invest there or some other flood plain.
There's a lot of money to be made if you're right.
Of course you'd lose it all if you're wrong so we know you wouldn't risk it.
 

Ginomore

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You going to put your money where your mouth is and invest there or some other flood plain.
There's a lot of money to be made if you're right.
Of course you'd lose it all if you're wrong so we know you wouldn't risk it.
Why would he invest when the property values are still high?
 

canada-man

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In 1995, the world’s leading climate scientists at the IPCC predicted the demise of skiing.


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Five years later, the University of East Anglia said children just won’t know what snow is.


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And it has been almost six years since the New York Times announced the end of snow.


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Meanwhile, ski areas are having record snowfall.


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Winter snow cover has been increasing for 50 years.


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Frankfooter

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Why would he invest when the property values are still high?
True, instead you should invest in places that just got hit by flooding and big storms.
Lots of those around now and lots of chances for deniers to make so much money with their superior understanding of science.

I'd go through here and start investing, if I had your superior knowledge of science and climate.
https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/billions/events
 

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So glad Justin bought those carbon credits for his campaign plane. Nobody better dare question his 2 planes flying a 50 mile flight between campaign stops. We could all be dead if he didn't buy those planet saving credits from his best friend, Gerald. Justin is so awesome. I mean he is just your average middle class guy. Not his fault his friends own private islands, not his fault his best friend owns a company that sells carbon credits, not his fault he had to get rid of some indigenous female who tried to hold a Qubec company over a barrel and how many of us haven't grabbed a ladies ass while being interviewed. This guy is the furthest from White Privlidge you can get, Firkin Mother Theresa. One last thing, just cause his Grandpa sold leaded gasoline in Montreal, docent mean he can't hold the rest of us accountable for killing the planet. You tell em Justy.
 

Frankfooter

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So glad Justin bought those carbon credits for his campaign plane. Nobody better dare question his 2 planes flying a 50 mile flight between campaign stops. We could all be dead if he didn't buy those planet saving credits from his best friend, Gerald. Justin is so awesome. I mean he is just your average middle class guy. Not his fault his friends own private islands, not his fault his best friend owns a company that sells carbon credits, not his fault he had to get rid of some indigenous female who tried to hold a Qubec company over a barrel and how many of us haven't grabbed a ladies ass while being interviewed. This guy is the furthest from White Privlidge you can get, Firkin Mother Theresa. One last thing, just cause his Grandpa sold leaded gasoline in Montreal, docent mean he can't hold the rest of us accountable for killing the planet. You tell em Justy.
Ok boomer.

Latest study says 2ºC will likely lead to 20 metres of sea rise eventually from Antarctic ice melt.
Whining about Trudeau really is pissing into the wind.
 

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From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
 

Frankfooter

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From a quarter to half of Earth’s vegetated lands has shown significant greening over the last 35 years largely due to rising levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Climate Change on April 25.

An international team of 32 authors from 24 institutions in eight countries led the effort, which involved using satellite data from NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectrometer and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Advanced Very High Resolution Radiometer instruments to help determine the leaf area index, or amount of leaf cover, over the planet’s vegetated regions. The greening represents an increase in leaves on plants and trees equivalent in area to two times the continental United States.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
This is also posted on NASA's site, I assume since you think they are a legit source you also agree with this.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/b...us-6-things-to-know-about-the-greenhouse-gas/
 

Moviefan-2

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Here in Canada feds scrap 100 years of data on climate change
This was like something right out of George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four.

They scrapped 100 years' worth of actual data and replaced it with computer-simulated historical records that were more aligned with what the alarmists want to believe.
 

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So tell me Frank, who should we listen too. My carbon foot print is way below average. Where are my carbon credits, how the fuck does Gerald Butts have them all. And why is he allowed to do business with Trudeau, his acknowledged best friend. We're there competing bids or does the Prime Ministers best friend just get the business.

Are u starting to see a pattern here Frank. Its all about the money. Why are the poor going to have to bear the brunt of taxation, when privileged Fucks like Justy and Gerald get to buy there way to peace of mind, while the rest of us have to figure out how pay for it.

Trudeau is certain global warming is going to kill us all but yet he goes for a 3 day surfing trip 4000 miles away. Obama buys a 15 million dollar home on the seaside. He lectures us constantly about rising sea levels. WTF. When are these people going to start living what they scold us for. When Frank. Who can you point to right know who is living this life as a person of power or leadership. Don't tell me David Suzuki. HIs carbon footprint is bigger than everybody on this website put together. All those Trump moaning hollywoods fakes wouldn't know public transit if ran over there feet.,

Your side of the isle is a joke, lecturing hypocrites who preach totally unaffordable nonsense mixed, in with a dash of if you don't agree you should be shamed or jailed. If that dosent work lets go back to when they were 8 and find somebody or something to relegate him into embarrassment.

If your 2 degree study had any relevance to reality, Government would start disallowing purchases of oceanfront property. Oh wait, that would take money out of governments pockets wouldn't it?. Again the money, gets in the way, damm.

That oceanfront property in Argentina and Chile is gorgeous.

I got good news for ya Frank your oceanfront property is safe, North, South, East, and West.

Cars, Guns, Opioids, Hunger, Cardiac issues, Poverty, Cancer, Suicide, War, Corruption, Cartels. You keep hoping for global warming and its destruction and ignore the issues in front of your face.

Guys like me keep preaching, cars ,oil, pipelines , railroads = JOBS. Which = MONEY

Guys like you keep pointing to scientist who are hell bent on proving there little theories right, why are they hell bent, MONEY. If its so imminent, than why do require money. The guy who runs into the theatre to tell everybody to get out cause its gonna burn down, docent ask for a 20 dollar bill to go in and tell people to get out. Why are the scientist still taking the money and more experiments, your already convinced, your mind is made up, so why do they require more money. At this point they should just be implementing. NO planes, No cows ,No cars, No more babies, More Tax, More Tax, More Tax,

We should all just to submit to the will of the smarter people.
 

Frankfooter

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So tell me Frank, who should we listen too. My carbon foot print is way below average. Where are my carbon credits, how the fuck does Gerald Butts have them all. And why is he allowed to do business with Trudeau, his acknowledged best friend. We're there competing bids or does the Prime Ministers best friend just get the business.

Are u starting to see a pattern here Frank. Its all about the money. Why are the poor going to have to bear the brunt of taxation, when privileged Fucks like Justy and Gerald get to buy there way to peace of mind, while the rest of us have to figure out how pay for it.

Trudeau is certain global warming is going to kill us all but yet he goes for a 3 day surfing trip 4000 miles away. Obama buys a 15 million dollar home on the seaside. He lectures us constantly about rising sea levels. WTF. When are these people going to start living what they scold us for. When Frank. Who can you point to right know who is living this life as a person of power or leadership. Don't tell me David Suzuki. HIs carbon footprint is bigger than everybody on this website put together. All those Trump moaning hollywoods fakes wouldn't know public transit if ran over there feet.,
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We should all just to submit to the will of the smarter people.
You're all over the place there drawcoat.

Yes, its about the money. But the money is in the oil business and the reason why Exxon knew about climate change 40 years ago and instead decided to fund disinformation campaigns.
Now its about those billionaires like Trump who fuck over the tax system so that billionaires now pay a lower tax rate than teachers in the US.

Right now there is a 7% discrepancy in beachfront property value, depending on whether the resident demographic are deniers or science believers.
Climate Change Belief Makes A Difference In Neighbourhood House Prices: Study
Our tendency to self-segregate into neighbourhoods with like-minded people may be driving this phenomenon.


As a denier, why don't you buy some cheap property in Fort McMurray, Paradise in California, Australia, New Orleans, Puerto Rico or one of many places hit severely by climate change disasters.

The deadly heat waves, floods and fires occurring from Japan to the Middle East, and North America to Europe have clear links to human-caused climate change, according to climate scientists, and this summer's abnormal weather is just the beginning of what's in store for us in coming years.

Why it matters: The biggest near-term impacts of climate change on society come in the form of weather and climate extremes, so this summer illustrates the danger of even a relatively small amount of warming. So far, the planet has only warmed by close to 1°C, or 1.8°F, above preindustrial levels. We're on a trajectory to reach 3 degrees Celsius, or 5.4°F, by 2100.

The big picture: All-time high temperature records, along with heavy rainfall milestones have fallen as a warmer, wetter climate exerts its influence on day-to-day weather. Here are just a few of the records set so far:

In North America: Los Angeles set an all-time high temperature record of 111°F on July 6. Montreal, Canada also set its all-time high temperature record, during a deadly Quebec heat wave in early July. This week, Death Valley, California, has broken three straight daily records with a high of 127°F. Update, July 31, 2018: Death Valley is poised to set a record for the hottest month ever recorded on Earth, with an average temperature of 108°F, breaking last year's record by about half a degree.
Several locations are reporting that July was their warmest all-time month, including the normally temperate Caribou, Maine.
In Europe: Unprecedented heat led to a wildfire outbreak in Scandinavia, and record highs have been set all the way above the Arctic Circle this month. According to the U.N., Sodankyla, Finland hit 89.2°F, or 31.8°C, on July 17, which was an all-time record for that location.
On Sunday, Sortland, in far northern Norway, saw the temperature reach 87.8°F, or 31.0°C, which was an all-time high for any month at that location, according to meteorologist Etienne Kapikian.
July 27 was the hottest temperature on record in Amsterdam, at 34.8°C, or 94.6°F.
Remarkably, in northern Norway, Makkaur, set a new record high overnight low temperature of 25.2°C, or 77°F, on July 18.
Heat records have also fallen in the U.K., Ireland and France. In London, high temperatures hit 35°C on Thursday, and were forecast to potentially eclipse that on Friday. The U.K. is suffering through one of its driest years on record.
In Asia, Chinese media is reporting that "22 counties and cities" have had their hottest July on record. South Korea set its all-time high temperature record on Aug. 1, when the temperature soared to 40.7°C, or 105.2°F, in Hongcheon, according to the Korea Meteorological Administration.
It was the highest ever recorded across the country since the KMA started compiling the data in 1907. The previous high of 40 degrees Celsius was logged at the southeastern city of Daegu in North Gyeongsang province on Aug. 1 in 1942.

Temperature in the capital Seoul reached a daily high of 39.6 degrees Celsius in midday, marking the highest in 111 years. The previous high was 38.4 degrees Celsius recorded on July 24, 1994.

In the Middle East: Quriyat, Oman, which likely set the world’s hottest low temperature ever recorded on June 28, when the temperature failed to drop below 109°F, or 42.8°C.
In Africa: Ouargla, Algeria, may have set Africa's all-time highest temperature on July 5, with a reading of 124.3°F, or 51.3°C.
In Asia: Japan set a national temperature record of 106°F, or 41.1°C, in a heat wave that followed deadly floods.
https://www.axios.com/global-heat-w...all-4cad71d2-8567-411e-a3f6-0febaa19a847.html


And I just have to laugh my face off any time someone tries to claim that government climate researchers would fake research for money and that its all about money while they ignore the cash from the big oil companies.
Are you really that unaware to make that claim with straight face?
Its ridiculous.
 

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Maybe Elizabeth Warren, Barack Obama, and Al Gore can donate a portion of their combined $262 million net worth to fight the good fight!
 
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