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Only Three Months Left For Planet Earth( and other false doomsday predictions)

Phil C. McNasty

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We're almost into June and next 3 days will be highs of only around 11 Celsius.
But yeah earth is getting hotter, except it must have forgotten about Canada :D


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Meteorologist Slams CNN For Stoking Debunked Fears Of A Collapsing AMOC
CNN continues its disturbing trend of using discredited climate scares to generate panic and political action.



A recent CNN article by Laura Paddison, titled “A crucial system of ocean currents is slowing. It’s already supercharging sea level rise in the US,” references new research on the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) to claim the current is slowing down leading to rising seas and costly, deadly coastal flooding. [emphasis, links added]



This false claim is based solely on a single, as yet unpublished and unverified study that used projections from a single climate model.

Evidence, including other studies and historical reports on AMOC trends, shows that there is no consensus on the status of the AMOC.

Rather, scientists’ predictions and the media’s reporting on the AMOC have been flip-flopping for nearly two decades—unable to decide whether AMOC is speeding up, slowing down, or staying steady.


The AMOC has been among the climate alarmists’ top go-to bogeymen for years. There was even a sci-fi movie made about its collapse, The Day After Tomorrow, in which the AMOC’s collapse leads to a new ice age within days.

Whether the movie made for good drama is debatable, but what is not debatable is the vigorous criticism that climate scientists leveled against its portrayal of climate change.


Looking at the history of AMOC predictions, according to some studies, it’s collapsing. In others, it’s strengthening. Sometimes studies suggest that the AMOC has not changed measurably at all in recent years.

The problem is that scientists have not had a reliable way to observe the AMOC long enough to make definitive statements. That hasn’t stopped the press from pushing speculative, often contradictory, claims based on every new study.

Heartland President James Taylor documented this ever-changing narrative in his 2021 article at Climate Realism, highlighting how climate activists have repeatedly contradicted themselves on AMOC trends.

One year it’s accelerating—fueling European warming—another year it’s stalling, threatening a new Ice Age. The takeaway? We simply don’t know enough to draw sweeping conclusions, let alone restructure financial lending or credit scoring based on these speculations.

In this case, CNN isn’t even citing published research, but relies heavily on yet unpublished research started in 2024 by Liping Zhang—an oceanographer with National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s (NOAA) Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory—suggesting that the AMOC may be weakening due to climate-related factors and could be ingincreased coastal flooding.

While Zhang’s modeling work may indeed raise valid scientific questions, CNN fails to mention the massive caveats attached to this line of research: sparse observational data, high model uncertainty, and a lack of consensus within the scientific community.

Had CNN done even a modest amount of fact-checking, it would have found that two peer-reviewed studies published in Nature, a top science journal, in January and February 2025, came to precisely the opposite conclusion as the unpublished study that the “news” organization is touting.

Those studies looked at data and models and concluded that the AMOC is showing no signs of decline and is unlikely to do so even under climate extremes.

Meteorologist Slams CNN For Stoking Debunked Fears Of A Collapsing AMOC - Climate Change Dispatch
 

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K Douglas

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Let's go through some of the predictions again

1970 America will be subject to water rationing by 1974, food rationing by 1980. Paul Ehrlich

1971 In the next 50 years the fine dust that man puts into the atmosphere through fossil fuel burning could screen out so much sunlight temperatures could drop by 6 degrees C. That would sufficiently trigger an ice age. Dr. S. Rasool NASA

1974 Telltale signs are everywhere - from the unexpected thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southern migration of warm loving creatures like the armadillo in the Midwest. Since the 1940's the mean global temperature has dropped by 2.7°F. Time Magazine science article questioning the next ice age.

1988: Maldives completely under water in 30 years UNEP

1989: Rising seas to ‘obliterate’ nations by 2000 UN officials

1988 The West Side Highway (which runs along the Hudson River) will be under water in the next 20-30 years. James Hansen testimony to Congress

2000 Snowfall will become a rare and exciting even...children just aren't going to know what snow is. Dr. David Viner University of East Anglia

2008 We see a tipping point right before our eyes. The Arctic is the first tipping point and its occurring exactly the way we said it would. In 10 years the Arctic will be ice free. James Hansen

2008 The entire North polarized cap will be ice free by 2013. Al Gore at COP15 conference

2009 We have just 96 months to save the world. The price of capitalism and consumerism is just too high. Prince Charles
 
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Arizona Snowbowl Makes History With Longest Season Ever at 185 Days

Japan’s top ski resorts extend season into Golden Week

Snowfall at Mt Hutt Marks Winter's Arrival in the Southern Hemisphere

Updated May 7, 2025: Snowfall hits the Southern Hemisphere - marking winter's arrival with 80 cm (31”) of snow in Mt Hutt, while Australia’s Corin Forest opens early. There are increasingly promising signs of the upcoming winter across the Southern Hemisphere, with snowfall reported over the last seven days in Australia, South America, Southern Africa, and New Zealand
 
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Frankfooter

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Let's go through some of the predictions again

1970 America will be subject to water rationing by 1974, food rationing by 1980. Paul Ehrlich

1971 In the next 50 years the fine dust that man puts into the atmosphere through fossil fuel burning could screen out so much sunlight temperatures could drop by 6 degrees C. That would sufficiently trigger an ice age. Dr. S. Rasool NASA

1974 Telltale signs are everywhere - from the unexpected thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southern migration of warm loving creatures like the armadillo in the Midwest. Since the 1940's the mean global temperature has dropped by 2.7°F. Time Magazine science article questioning the next ice age.

1988: Maldives completely under water in 30 years UNEP

1989: Rising seas to ‘obliterate’ nations by 2000 UN officials

1988 The West Side Highway (which runs along the Hudson River) will be under water in the next 20-30 years. James Hansen testimony to Congress

2000 Snowfall will become a rare and exciting even...children just aren't going to know what snow is. Dr. David Viner University of East Anglia

2008 We see a tipping point right before our eyes. The Arctic is the first tipping point and its occurring exactly the way we said it would. In 10 years the Arctic will be ice free. James Hansen

2008 The entire North polarized cap will be ice free by 2013. Al Gore at COP15 conference

2009 We have just 96 months to save the world. The price of capitalism and consumerism is just too high. Prince Charles
Here's Exxon's prediction in 1982 for climate change from their own scientists, they predicted warming of about 4ºC by the end of the century. We are actually ahead of their prediction right now.

Once their scientists sent this prediction off to the board they decided to spend millions on disinformation so they didn't lose sales. The same bullshit you still believe today even as the planet hits 1.%ºC.

 

Phil C. McNasty

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Let's go through some of the predictions again

1970 America will be subject to water rationing by 1974, food rationing by 1980. Paul Ehrlich

1971 In the next 50 years the fine dust that man puts into the atmosphere through fossil fuel burning could screen out so much sunlight temperatures could drop by 6 degrees C. That would sufficiently trigger an ice age. Dr. S. Rasool NASA

1974 Telltale signs are everywhere - from the unexpected thickness of pack ice in the waters around Iceland to the southern migration of warm loving creatures like the armadillo in the Midwest. Since the 1940's the mean global temperature has dropped by 2.7°F. Time Magazine science article questioning the next ice age.

1988: Maldives completely under water in 30 years UNEP

1989: Rising seas to ‘obliterate’ nations by 2000 UN officials

1988 The West Side Highway (which runs along the Hudson River) will be under water in the next 20-30 years. James Hansen testimony to Congress

2000 Snowfall will become a rare and exciting even...children just aren't going to know what snow is. Dr. David Viner University of East Anglia

2008 We see a tipping point right before our eyes. The Arctic is the first tipping point and its occurring exactly the way we said it would. In 10 years the Arctic will be ice free. James Hansen

2008 The entire North polarized cap will be ice free by 2013. Al Gore at COP15 conference

2009 We have just 96 months to save the world. The price of capitalism and consumerism is just too high. Prince Charles
Meanwhile in Toronto we've had the coldest month of May for many decades.
I've lived in Toronto for the last 30 years and I cannot remember a May thats been this chilly
 
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K Douglas

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Question for you Frankie: has the AMOC collapsed in the past? If so what were the CO2 levels then?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Its almost June, I woke up to +7 Celsius this morning, and I had to crank my heater up 🥶
 

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Question for you Frankie: has the AMOC collapsed in the past? If so what were the CO2 levels then?
do not ask frankfooter scientific questions
#1. he does not have a scientific clue
#2. even more importantly, he will not answer truthfully
 

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do not ask frankfooter scientific questions
#1. he does not have a scientific clue
#2. even more importantly, he will not answer truthfully
Larue, you still don't think the Greenhouse Effect exists and still argue that you are smarter than all of NASA, the IPCC and 99.9% of scientists.
You would fail high school science.

The only 'science' you post here are 20 year old charts and posts from fossil fuel funded science deniers, the vast majority are retired kooks.
Your views are those of a tiny, wacko, minority.

 
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