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Espn reporting "What they’re saying about Bianca Andreescu: ‘borderline cocky"

Told u shes a phoney she'll call security if u look at her the wrong way
Name an elite athlete (any gender) who is not borderline cocky.

I'll wait.
 

superstar_88

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Oh borderline cocky better kick her out of the country. We don't need no borderline cocky in this country. She's a bad very bad person. She is only borderline though so she better not cross over to the dark side.
 

gcostanza

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Espn reporting "What they’re saying about Bianca Andreescu: ‘borderline cocky"

Told u shes a phoney she'll call security if u look at her the wrong way
happ, if we get you a doll, can you show us where the mean woman (women?) hurt you?
 

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Oh borderline cocky better kick her out of the country. We don't need no borderline cocky in this country
Hahaha, yes we can't have that in Canada! We might actually get too good at all kinds of shit, and what then will the rest of the world think us? Being world class champions is not for us, no siree Bob! Go low Canada, Go low :canada: ...sorry
 

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Laver's first Grand Slam came playing against amateurs.
Most of the best players wanted to maintain their amateur status so that they could play tournaments like Wimbledon. As such, your attempt at downplaying his accomplishments fails.

Actually, by going pro, Laver took a stand against the system of that time and paved the way for the open era of today.
 
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Insidious Von

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happ is having problems getting a crumb from his inflatable date again.

Let's show some love to the gorgeous Virginie Tremblay for getting her ready. Sylvain Bruneau was not with Bianca in Auckland, Virginie was the interim coach. She went through qualifiers reaching the final before losing to Julia Goerges - that will never happen again.

She had tears of joy when Bianca went into the family box...and she can really rock short shorts.

happ you should pass this up, she's too much for u.

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I think when Laver won his first Grand Slam as an amateur in 1962, "Ken Rosewall, Lew Hoad and Andrés Gimeno, and also Pancho Gonzales" were all professionals.

"When Laver turned professional in 1963 he initially lost consistently to Rosewall and Hoad. In the beginning of 1963, Laver was beaten consistently by both Rosewall and Hoad on an Australasian tour. Hoad won the first eight matches against Laver, and Rosewall won 11 out of 13."
 

superstar_88

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Laver is smaller than Marner so you must hate him also
 

shack

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I think when Laver won his first Grand Slam as an amateur in 1962, "Ken Rosewall, Lew Hoad and Andrés Gimeno, and also Pancho Gonzales" were all professionals.

"When Laver turned professional in 1963 he initially lost consistently to Rosewall and Hoad. In the beginning of 1963, Laver was beaten consistently by both Rosewall and Hoad on an Australasian tour. Hoad won the first eight matches against Laver, and Rosewall won 11 out of 13."
So obviously that was a very strong era in tennis during which Laver won 200 titles.

No sense continuing the debate as there is no way to determine any clear cut GOAT.
 

Gooseifur

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Maybe, maybe not. Laver had to go against Ken Rosewall, John Newcombe, Stan Smith and Arthur Ashe. Makes you wonder what they could have done with today's rackets. The difference is tennis in the 60's was the domain of Americans and Australians, it started to become international in the 70's.

It's a matter of succession, after 69 Laver lost every match he played against Newcombe, after 74 Newcombe lost every match he played against Jimmy Connors.......
Yes but Nadal, Federer, and Djokovic have ruled the grand slams well into their thirties, I'm not the only one saying it all the commentators say this is the greatest era of men's tennis.
 

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Emerson, Newcombe, Roche, Pancho Gonzales, Arthur Ashe, Ken Rosewall. They are all Hall of Famers.
Yes they are Hall of Famers, but compare their records to the big 3 in this era, it's not even close
 

shack

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Yes they are Hall of Famers, but compare their records to the big 3 in this era, it's not even close
But that era had much more depth than this one. They were all so good that, aside from Laver, no one else could dominate.

How about an era with Borg, Connors, McEnroe, Lendl, Nastase?
 

Insidious Von

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Legends having fun, I would be over the moon if the guy on the right became FAA's coach.

Becker, Wilander, MaEnroe and Lendl.

 

superstar_88

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the game has changed tremendously since the 70's. Those rackets. Newcombe doesn't play with any power. Those ground strokes are like what you would see in the women's game these days. Those serves are like 2nd serves now in the men's game.
 

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I would love to see today's players play with the smaller head, heavy wood rackets. No way they can hit the ball with power as they do today. In the era of the wooden rackets, it was like a chess match where you moved your opponent around in order to hit a winner. In today's game , it's all about overwhelming your opponent with power.

I've always thought that if Martina Hingis played in the 60's to 70's, she would have dominated and would have the most Grand Slam titles.

She was a cerebral player, Serena never domintaed her in head to head meeting as Serena only leads 7-6.
Hingis leads Venus 11-10 in head to head meetings
 

shack

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the game has changed tremendously since the 70's. Those rackets. Newcombe doesn't play with any power. Those ground strokes are like what you would see in the women's game these days. Those serves are like 2nd serves now in the men's game.
And hockey players are faster and shoot harder.
Baseball players hit more homers and pitchers throw harder.
Football players re bigger and stronger and taller and faster and (for darts) they kick longer field goals.
Golfers hit it waaay further.
It is not just the nature of sports for things to evolve that way but it is the nature of the human race. Nothing in this world stays the same.
 

superstar_88

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And hockey players are faster and shoot harder.
Baseball players hit more homers and pitchers throw harder.
Football players re bigger and stronger and taller and faster and (for darts) they kick longer field goals.
Golfers hit it waaay further.
It is not just the nature of sports for things to evolve that way but it is the nature of the human race. Nothing in this world stays the same.
Hence why compare who is better a player now or a player from a different era. Imagine Nylander putting on Keon skates he would be skating like Colton Orr.
 
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